"Can't nobody be bigger than this game"

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More yac than actually throwing the ball

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Average QB playing average competition made him look better all year...Aub special teams lost this game sadly.

For what? sucking?

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Did it when it counted. Legend cemented

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You are an idiot..Winston is overrated....

What game did you watch? Winston was terrible.

Winston may score lower on the wonderlic than Vince.

He didn't do very well... Are you serious, OP?

Did it in the Vince Young end zone.
Did I mention Vince Young at Texas
Texas won the BCS at the Rosebowl
Vince Young

what exactly did Winston do that looked impressive? He was the master of the 5-yard dump off on that last drive

Lotta buttmad in this thread

Just accept he one-upped Johnny.

We had a good run in the spot light Ags but its over

Props to a rapist? Even if he was the best player in college football history (and tonight showed he isn't even the best player this year), no, you don't give him 'props'. Football is a game you moron. It's insignificant. In what really matters, he's the scum of the earth.

MVP? There's something about Winston that doesn't sit right with me (barring the obvious). I can't cheer for him. We'll see if ESPN tears him down during the offseason like they tried to do with Johnny.

Haha soooo much hate here. He's good. The poise after that start... Yeah he has a better defense and Johnny is better but name one more qb who is. And auburn special teams lost this game? You must have just watched that return in a highlight then because they were well coached, disciplined, and special teams until then were superb minus the muffed pint which had no impact. So stfu about the rape and give kudos. We haven't won a natty in 75 years and let alone been in one. Jimbo is a class act and waited his turn in line for this so can everyone here please stfu. It's so embarrassing

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Lotta buttmad in this thread

Just accept he one-upped Johnny.

We had a good run in the spot light Ags but its over

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No ag tag doubt you ever step foot on campus.

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Haha soooo much hate here. He's good. The poise after that start... Yeah he has a better defense and Johnny is better but name one more qb who is. And auburn special teams lost this game? You must have just watched that return in a highlight then because they were well coached, disciplined, and special teams until then were superb minus the muffed pint which had no impact. So stfu about the rape and give kudos. We haven't won a natty in 75 years and let alone been in one. Jimbo is a class act and waited his turn in line for this so can everyone here please stfu. It's so embarrassing

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He handled pressure well and his teammates stepped up. Not the first time.

I would rather A&M never win a championship again than have it represented in such a way by a rapist whose crime people willfully ignored. Some of you mindless twits disgust me.

And if all the ones slobering were to be honest, he looked very average tonight. Alot of big plays by others on that drive and missed plays by the defense.

Auburn had their chance to put it away and didn't.

If he was not is ACC, NO Heisman. Not a great qb.

And Jason white was the best qb? Give me a break. He won the heisman. He won the natty. No one gives two ****s about anything else. And for all the rapist comments.... I really want to see what you had to say when the media crucified Johnny.... I promise there are girls who could claim rape against me and still had my DNA in their panties. I bet you are the same guys who say to trust the justice system. But you sit on your high horse and because a kid who goes out, does everything he can for his team and it's not your team you assume and talk trash. Yeah he could work on his vocabulary. Yeah he might not be polished. But I bet everyone saying these things probably didn't have the same upbringing he did. Just stop. Would I rather have Johnny? Of course I would. But I also would have rather had Vince young and the recruits texas got during the Fran days. Might not have the iq of Stephen McGee but I bet quite a few recruits in this class don't either. Sour grapes.

Rapists they always finish on top

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He is a rapist

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This a thousand times over

Great, no. Good, yes. Johnny put up more points on Auburn this season

Beyond a reasonable doubt is incredibly difficult to prove nowadays - people think it means 'beyond all doubt' and will cling to ridiculous facts to let people off.

In a rape, you typically have two witnesses - the victim and the rapist. The woman in this case told her story (BEFORE Winston was the star he became), and Winston (and his friends) told a different story. If only we had some way of knowing who was telling the truth...

...Winston and his friends claimed he never slept with her. The DNA proves he (and they) were lying. He raped her. They can prove it by a preponderance (more likely than not), by clear and convincing evidence, and they might even be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt with some juries - but they won't try because it's hard and he's famous. The cop investigating her case sometimes works for FSU booster organizations, and he delayed the investigation.

'Beyond a Reasonable Doubt' applies to courtrooms, not to the court of public opinion. Winston raped her, and you think people should look the other way because he's good at football. You're a contemptible idiot. I wouldn't eat at the same table with you.

He played horribly, the guy took a 5 yard pass for 60 yards to set up the touchdown. Winston did nothing to win that game for fsu, special teams and defense did. He is one of the worst heismans of all time, and that includes a guy name gino torreta

Sean Connery bet $200 on therapists.

Awesome player...with mute button on.

48.9 QBR

I agree that he might not have been proven guilty of rape beyond a reasonable doubt, but there was definitely enough evidence to charge him, if it had been anyone else they would have been charged

this is like giving props to the guy who had to drop $50 at the carnival to knock down the milk rape. he's a rapist.

Innocent until proven guilty. Consent is a defense. JFF is better.

He was bad for most of the game but clutch when it counted to win the game, which is all that matters in the end. That said: JFF is better. Also, JW sounds like an idiot.

Is something wrong with American college football?