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GoldenRatio
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Oh well. Maybe if he hears how much he sucks enough, he'll get mad and do something about it.
spaceman
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I agree. Against Bama I see a lot of drives that stall in field goal territory and we have GOT to convert those into at least some points if we want to have any chance. If we leave points on the field Bama will make us pay. There is a significant chance Bertolet's inconsistency will directly cost us the game.

It doesn't make sense that there's NOTHING we can do. Why aren't others asking Sumlin about this in press conferences or whatnot?
WGann3
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Kicker being our biggest weakness.

This season has gone way different than I expected.
Mantis Toboggan MD
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F*** it. Lets just put Manziel in to kick. Dude saves kitten on the regular, how hard can it be for him to kick a ball between two sticks?
LatinAggie1997
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I'll give him until next year
cheroczech
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I believe in our kicker long term, but
I keep hearing this argument. What are people seeing in this kid that makes them confident in a positive turnaround? Not only is he inaccurate left and right, he also kicks WAY too low. It's not surprising when his kicks get blocked. You can't blame the line. Did you see one of his short conversions this week squeak over the upright?

On a serious note, if you're in the camp that sees upside in this kid in a year or two, what are you seeing that gives you this expectation? Unfortunately for Bertolet, kickers don't get that sort of time to develop. Time to move on.... I think. Would love to hear some serious responses from those in the Bertolet 2014 camp.
Inner City_Ag 10
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We will need to go for it on 4th down instead of attempting field goals. The chances of us converting will be greater than Bertolet kicking a good one.
Inner City_Ag 10
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This offense is TOO GOOD to risk wasting a drive on a sub par kicker.
cheroczech
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People are saying that because Bullock didn't really get good until his junior year.
Thanks Golden for adding your thoughts. I hear that one too without anyone providing the statistical comparisons. So here are the #s which don't lie.

2008: FG 85.7% (6 of 7) -- XP 95.2% (20 of 21)
2009: FG 63.2% (12 of 19) -- XP 100% (51 of 51)
2010: FG 76.2% (16 of 21) -- XP 100% (50 of 50)
2011: FG 87.9% (29 of 33) -- XP 96.5% (55 of 57)

And Bertolet...
2012: FG 57.9% (11 of 19) -- XP 92.3% (48 of 52)

Yes, Bullock struggled his SECOND year, but not nearly as bad as what we're seeing from Bertolet. And Bullock also demonstrated ability his first year.

Thoughts?

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/cfb/players.asp?id=171982
cheroczech
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double post

[This message has been edited by cheroczech (edited 11/4/2012 1:21a).]
swmswmag07
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Honestly, kicking is so mental that we should attempt to be more positive about the situation. It is truly our only option currently. Thread after thread talking about how much he sucks is only going to worsen the situation.
nomadic_ag
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hmmmm

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/01/27/recruiting-kickers/index.html
SuperAg09
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It is truly our only option currently


Truly, it is our only option, Currently?


Last I checked, we can still put our regular offense on the field during 4th down. No rules against it
cheroczech
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we should attempt to be more positive about the situation
huh? I'm not sure Bertolet reads TexAgs for ego boosting. Besides, he knows he sucks. All this good vibes talk is just superstition. Still.... on a serious note, do any of the Bertolet 2014 fans see real upside that I'm missing?
Inner City_Ag 10
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This is by far the biggest weakness on our team.

I don't know what the NCAA regs are, but is there anything preventing us from dropping this guy and bringing in a walk on?
GoldenRatio
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Probably.
DRE06
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I believe in our kicker long term, but his current effectiveness could lose us the bama game.
Gordo14
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He is what he is and he is our best. The reality is that in 2 years or so I bet the kid is lights out as a field goal kicker. It sucks that he isnt as good as he needs to be right now, but if we had better options they would play.
PatAg
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Line up on left hash, definitely try to kick across your body.
AgCrag
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We didn't offer him a 4 year scholly, he is a Pennsylvania kid I think so no head coaches in Texas on the high school level would have their feelings hurt.

It could be done but it probably won't.
GoldenRatio
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People are saying that because Bullock didn't really get good until his junior year. Hopefully Bertolet will either get better quick or be replaced.

But until then, I vote we go for two every time. 50% conversion rate and we're no worse off. As far as field goals, if it's 7 yards or fewer to a first down, go for it every time. Every now and then we'll still have to risk it though.
ASpecialK
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I have a friend in a class with him. After the LSU game the prof commented on the loss and everyone in the class blew up talking about how Bertolet sucks. They didn't realize he was in there until the prof pointed it out.

That has to be getting to his head.

[This message has been edited by ASpecialK (edited 11/4/2012 1:00a).]
Inner City_Ag 10
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No need to wait for someone to get good. Go find somebody that is good.
Philip J Fry
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quote:
[2008: FG 85.7% (6 of 7) -- XP 95.2% (20 of 21)
2009: FG 63.2% (12 of 19) -- XP 100% (51 of 51)
2010: FG 76.2% (16 of 21) -- XP 100% (50 of 50)
2011: FG 87.9% (29 of 33) -- XP 96.5% (55 of 57)

And Bertolet...
2012: FG 57.9% (11 of 19) -- XP 92.3% (48 of 52)

Yes, Bullock struggled his SECOND year, but not nearly as bad as what we're seeing from Bertolet. And Bullock also demonstrated ability his first year.[


Actually, it's very close to Bertolet's current performance.
8T2
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Bertolet will kick the game winner against Alabama. I have confidence that he will be up to the task.

You should, too.
Aggie0712
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Please stop the comparisons with Bullock....nothing guarantees that he will turn out like Bullock!
Dad
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I wish we knew more about what is going on.... does he suck in practice too or only in the games?

It feels like all the misses have gone to his head. Sumlin keeps throwin him out there to try and get him some confidence, but I'd rather go for it on 4th and 5 against Bama than attempt a 38 yard field goal with him next week.
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