http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/22/3161236/sec-still-in-missouris-sights.html

Not surprised at all.

At some point, some school in some conference is going to bolt, and schools like MIssouri are going to hit the panic button, trying to get one of those last remaining slots in one of the desired conferences. It might not happen this year, and it might not happen next year, but it will happen. If you are the athletic director or president of a Big 12-3 school, the very last thing you want to is base your school's athletic future on the remote possibility that DeLoss Dodds is not lying to you. The Big 12-3 WILL fall apart. It's just a matter of time. And when it does, other conferences will come looking for schools like OU, OSU, MIssouri and Tech. Everyone that is left will be scrambling to find anyone who will take them, and unless they're willing to let go of their Precious, that includes Texas.

What I find funny is OU goes from leaving to now trying to set it up where no one can leave. A little hypocritical is it not. Basically since we cannot, leave no one can leave attitude. Sorry but you do not make a conference stable doing it this way.

If SEC also gets MU you see who the king is in all of this.

With these additions Slive will push for the SEC to have the best contract in college sports.

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Loftin should have a talk with Missouri and see if they can team up and leave...

That supposedly 6 year contract isn't going to last long.

300 million to one school is to much to not be pissed about..

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^ I think OU finally started to realize the longer it tried to attach itself to the coattails the desired results wouldn't be achieved.

Man, Mizz all but said "If the Big10 or SEC really becomes a possibility, we're gone"

I find it hard for OU to agree to the current setup. My conclusion is that they have something brewing on the side.

that is assuming that mu has that option, and that is assuming a lot.

If Baylor was smart(I know...good luck with that), they would let us go ASAP. This would allow them to find a replacement. If the Big 12-3 comes apart they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Has the Big 12-2-1 tried to replace Nebraska or UC? Seems like they don't have to wait for us to leave before they add others.
Trusting bevo would be stupid

Don't think sec wants to pursue mizz now with big 12 intact. Read Mrsec.com.

Apparently their "offer" was a verbal deal last year if the league caved.

Or can mizz withdraw now ?? Like we did

Somebody clarify plz

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Apparently their "offer" was a verbal deal last year if the league caved.

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then perhaps mizzou is doing all it can the make the league cave?

if they dont sign any of the terms, will the big12 then cave?

Actually you might want to go back and read Mrsec again. If they get these 6 year signings involving the conference members it is going to be hard to find new schools. This might leave the SEC at 13 for a while. I think this might finally goad the SEC into moving.

Whatever they do, I hope we're gone by then. Don't want K* raising another fuss.

It sounds as if Mizzou is waiting for Texas A&M to become official members of the SEC, then to have the Big 12 add some new members, then announce their divorce from the Big 12, and then apply for membership in the SEC. It is a matter of when, not if.

And the Big 8 became the Big 12, and then they became the Big 8.

The whole deal on the Big 12 was Texas. That was the driving force for the entire conference. Not t.u. or A&M, but the TEXAS MARKET. Yea, NU had a following, but TEXAS had the market.

When teams like Missouri, and even Oklahoma tried to get out, nobody wanted them. They think that because they may have a good football team that they are attractive to a conference. However, that's not what drives conferences. REVENUE is what drives conferences and THE TEXAS MARKET is what brings revenue to the Big 12.

MU would LOVE to leave the Big 12. They have desired that for a long time. However, nobody wants them, so they are stuck doing exactly what they are told to do.

My guess is that we go, maybe SEC eventually gets 1 maybe 2 from east coast and windows of opportunity start closing MU panics, but could be too late.

Missouri still wants out. Because of a number of factors, Deaton being the current chair of the Big XII, Baylor's threats to the SEC, and the implosion of the Big East, they have been stymied. Slive's hands were tied because of Baylor. Even if Delany had been thinking about maybe adding Missouri this go round, Baylor's crap would have given him pause.

There was always the BIG East, BCS AQ and with room to expand. But then they crapped out at the same time the PAC publicly humiliated OU and tu.

Just sad, actually. I feel sorry for Mizoo.

Aren't they part of the 9 members that agreed on the grant of right bs...

If they disagreed with it then why did they stay quiet..

Get your asses up, speak up and make yourself be heard.

Being quiet isn't going to help your cause..

Oklahoma tried to but they thought they were bigger than Texas.. Look where that got them..

Missouri isn't attached to Oklahoma or Texas.

Im sure they will be able to leave with Texas A&M now that Texas and Oklahoma are bff's in the Big12..

At this point there isn’t one school within the Big12 with the cojones to stand up. That includes A&M. While we have submitted out intent to leave, it had a lot of if’s and when’s in it. The various universities, A&M included, need to state flat out ‘We are out of the league on such and such date.’ Leave any announcement about joining another league to future press conferences. If universities are sick of what is happening in the Big12, leave. Otherwise it’s all just a lot of whining.

My interpretation is that Mizzou is not going to commit to the Big XII until they try to get LHN concessions (no high school content, no conference games). Right now, Mizzou to the SEC is the only leverage anybody has against t.u. If they can't get what they want, who knows what they will do.

K* is sucking up trying to get Mizz to stay.

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"We are immensely grateful for the superb work of University of Missouri Chancellor Brady Deaton in skillfully guiding this process. As a result of Chancellor Deaton's outstanding leadership, our member institutions are now focused on a vibrant future for the Big 12 Conference and moving ahead together."

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Good for Mizzou! This doesn't affect us, IMO. The others may howl, but it really doesn't! Do you think tu, ou, osu, and tt were concerned about the other 5 when they approached PAC-12? What about "the other" 4 and the Big East? IMO, the Big XII-III is shakier than the Big East. Mizzou needs to chart it's own course.

"It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man," Psalm 118:8.

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I don't blame Mizzou for not commiting fully it helps them force everyone to come to the table. tu wants the BIG XII to be viable so they can develop the LHN and this 6 year agreement Boren is talking about will allow them to do just that. At this point tu has no options because no conference wants their LHN and they can't venture out as an independent right now. With 8 members that have votes how can tu keep them from expanding to 12 teams? Does ESPN come in and sit at the table and tell all the members what their goals are and what the conference members will allow and not allow as far as content? I really don't think that Mizzou wants to come to the SEC I think they will stay with the BIG XII and sign the agreement then prior to the contract expiring on this 6 year deal they will see who wants them more the SEC or BIG TEN? I also don't see the BIG XII as being a long term thing unless they can go can get to 16 teams and become a super conference but with Dodds & Boren not wanting a tougher path to the NC what do they do? Many questions yet to be answered and what do the 8 members do with their votes give tu carte blanche or start using their votes for their long term interests?

They're from the "show me" state. They are just cynical but will be standing pat in the Big XII minus III.

I will say it again, maybe it will sink in.

tu to PAC
ND to B1G
UNC to SEC

unless one of these happens, realignment at the top level is dead as disco. Unless you have rabid fans AND deliver eyeballs the Big 3 have no need to add you.

tu has LHN, which they will no give up for the PAC

ND has a 7 Billion endowment, so what is BTN $$$$

UNC is core of ACC, so it would need ACC earthquake to move


This is not really difficult to understand if you just step back and look at the folks who are actually at the top of the food chain and what they desire.

Missouri! Get the hell outta there!

With regard to OU, I hear they were ***** slapped by TU again. In reality, TU basically killed the move to the P12, but nothing else.

Why doesnt OU stand up and apply to the SEC? Are they that insecure about leaving Texas?

I just don't get it.

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They need to stand up to the bully now! They may get punched in the mouth, but they won't live with the regret of not even trying. It's just hard to believe that MU and OU can't find an angle to get the others to join them in pressuring tu.

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Why doesnt OU stand up and apply to the SEC? Are they that insecure about leaving Texas?

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OU and t.u. are partners until the end. When OU made their statemnt on September 2 about exploring its options, I honestly think they were only trying to derail A&M's move to the SEC. I don't trust OU and I hope they are stuck with t.u. forever. They both suck as business partners and getting away from both of them is the best thing A&M can possibly do.

SEC.