Yes, I am well aware that "teasip" is an ancient term. I was just referring to the "legend" that has been invented that "teasip" refers to lack of desire to serve in the military.

The legend is a recent invention. Certainly, Aggies served and continue to serve in great numbers. But in WWI and WWII, service was almost universal, and it's silly to claim that 'sips failed to serve in WWI or WWII.

Nothing wrong with being proud of Aggieland, but it's not a contest.

Most sips refused to serve in the wars. The aggies served in greater numbers than any other public institution, which is why A&M is the most patriotic university in the world. No other university commissions more officers than A&M. Aggies take pride in their honor and integrity. Most sips, and all other fanbases in general, are not as classy or honorable.

3.) Yes, we are 100% sure. We are only going to the SEC to collect our $ from LSU.

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Most sips refused to serve in the wars

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Again, bullcrap. Cite some stats to back it up. To simply state that without proof makes us look stupid, not the teasips.

Doesn't Aggie actually come from the shortened version of agricultural engineer (Ag-E)?

Agree with Canyon. And FWIW, it is my understanding that LSU has a pretty stellar record of military service as well.

Why We Stated Calling sips sips...

We kidnapped tu's castrated bull before a game and branded 13 - 10 on it, the score of an Aggie victory over tu. tu students converted the 13 to a B, the - to an E, and the 1 to a V, forever naming their mascot bevo.

It turns out that bevo was the name of a popular near-beer around the tu campus. You know what a near-beer is? It's a beer with even less alcohol than Coors Light. It ain't a beer. It's like tea.

It's bad enough to sip a near beer. It's unbelievable to name your mascot after one. Thus in honor of bevo, Aggies started referring to tu students and graduates as tea-sippers for their beloved (and now dead) bevo near-beer and mascot name.

RAB, the score was 13-0.

They had to squeeze the "v" in between the hyphen and the zero.

Just a heads up!

And also RAB, I have a 1926 Longhorn (the precursor to the Aggieland) I can't find any reference to "sips" in it. Doesn't mean the term was not in use then, but it makes one wonder.

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Most sips refused to serve in the wars

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This is radioactive stupidity.

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1) Austin is a california hippie fruitcake butt-pirate sit on the veranda and drink your mint-julep and sniff your own farts kind of place.

2) College Station is more of a pickup truck, beer-drinking, friendly, easy to get along, down-to-earth type of place.

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Does anyone actually really believe this?

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Yeah. It's why I came to A&M. My grades and SAT scores could have gotten me into a lot of schools, but I came to A&M because I'd have had an aneurysm in Austin. The first purple-haired, nipple-pierced, topless, prideful, man-hating lesbian I came across would have been the end of me. A&M tends to be much better with regard to all of that. It's gotten worse in the past few years with all the Vision 20/20 stuff, but it's still many times better than t.u.

I'm an academic at heart, and really not the country-boy sort... Really, I think I'd culturally have fit in in Austin quite well. I can't take their haughty bravado, however, and the liberalism would have killed me.

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Ceterum censeo Longicornua esse delendas.

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/Cato the Aggie

With regards to the poster who was highlighting similarities/historic ties between programs. The UA was, for a large segment of its early history, a military school. Among the few buildings to survive the burning of the campus by Union troops is a small white building ("The Little Round House" next to Gorgas Library in the middle of the campus.

Given A&M's military history I thought that might have been an interesting note.

The only century old rival we will be leaving will be baylor.

Century old rivalries:
texas: 117 games back to 1894- The T-Day game will go on.
baylor: 107 games back to 1899 - might be able to be scheduled as a OOC patsy every now and then

non-century series':
tech: 69 meetings back to 1927- who cares about this game anyway? Nobody from our side should care...
Oklahoma: 29 meetings - no real history
Oklahama State: 26 meetings - no real history

Our next longest running Big 12 series' would be KSU at 14 meetings, 11 for Mizzou, 10 each for KU and ISU, and 9 for Colorado.

SEC Rivals:
Arkansas: 67 meetings back to 1903
LSU: 50 meetings back to 1899

Not really leaving much behind.

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RAB, the score was 13-0.

They had to squeeze the "v" in between the hyphen and the zero.

Just a heads up!

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Thanks. Now that I recall, you're right. Excuse me. I'm getting old, senile, forgetful and I need a beer. Not sure what needing a beer has to do with it, but it seems like a reasonable proposition right now.

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And also RAB, I have a 1926 Longhorn (the precursor to the Aggieland) I can't find any reference to "sips" in it. Doesn't mean the term was not in use then, but it makes one wonder.

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Well if that's not the true origin of t-sip, it should be, so I'm sticking with it.

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We kidnapped tu's castrated bull before a game and branded 13 - 10 on it, the score of an Aggie victory over tu. tu students converted the 13 to a B, the - to an E, and the 1 to a V, forever naming their mascot bevo.

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According to the traditions council webpage for tamu, Bevo was never rebranded.

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Everyone has heard the story about Bevo getting his name, but what really happened? Well according to the most popularly accepted story, t.u. had been looking for a mascot and finally found a steer with a burnt orange hide, so they decided to reveal it at half time of the 1916 AMC vs. t.u. football game. At the time, it was simply referred to as the “Texas steer.” After announcing publicly that they were going to brand its side “21-7” (the final score of the 1916 game, which t.u. won), some Aggie pranksters snuck in and branded “13-0” on the steer’s side (the score of the 1915 game, which the Aggies won). t.u. then decided to name it Bevo after the title of a “near beer” or nonalcoholic beer that was popular in Austin at the time. The steer was not re-branded however because costs of feeding it were too great for the university to afford. Instead, t.u. officials decided to slaughter it and serve it at a university banquet in 1920. Texas AMC officials were then presented with the section of hide that had the 13-0 brand. Its current location is unknown.

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The t-sip sign with extended pinky has an original meaning that has nothing to do with drinking tea. It's just not the thing any institution could speak of. You guys are very gullible to believe the official story. I'll bet you also think ZZ Top got their name from the wood pattern on Dusty's barn? That is the official story they gave. Riiiight.....

Davism98- awesome info. John David Crow was not a Junction Boy, however.


The story of the term t-sip coming from the sips staying home while we fought wars probably came from the same place that says we call t.u., t.u. because they aren't THE University of Texas; Fish Camp.
I can't think of any other reason why so many are mis-informed about these terms. By the way, though I did not attend, I am for Fish Camp in principle, but it can pass on too much mis-information:
True history of the term t.u. and Texas University("Texas University" was not a put down, it was their name).
history of "t-sips"
adding "Hump It Ags" in the middle of "The Spirit of Aggieland", etc.

1) Why do you call the longhorns "sips?"

Because its not polite to call them as*holes in most contexts, and Momma raised us right.

Also, because the school in Austin is full of blue-blood-wanna-be tea sipping type elitists, a lot like a college campus full of Highland Park kids (google HP and you'll see what I mean). And not tea as in iced tea that we all drink, think british royalty sipping hot tea from a dainty cup.

2) Why do you call yourselves the "Aggies" still?

Because we are proud of our earthly roots.

3) How for sure are you, that you want to come?

If you've paid attention to the goings-on in this clusterf&*k of a conference in the last 14 months or so, I'm disappointed you even have to ask that question. Then again, youre from Alabama so I'll type more slowly (thats smack foreshadowing). Go ask Tom Osborne.

No real natural rivals. That could be something you look back on and regret.

Nope. LSU and Arky are legit rivals with a history and maybe Bama will become one if we talk enough smack.

Moreover, we will continue our annual game against the sips much like UF and FSU do likewise. if the sips throw a fit and refuse to play us, thats on them, but it'll be reversed in a few years. they did something similar in the late 80s early 90s when they moved the game away from thanksgiving because they grew weary of getting their asses kicked by us on national t.v. every thanksgiving. petty sips.

Re the rivals, LSU is a natural, long-time rival dating back decades.

We had annual series with them in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s and before

Arkansas is an old rival from SWC

Bama and A&M have a lot of history between them, and it will only take us beating you 3 times in a row before that series becomes a bloodbath. And yeah, I do believe that will happen.

All three have been explained, but wanted to comment on the potential loss of the tu game.

Granted, we've been rivals for a long time, but having been to Austin (via Aggie Band) for an away Thanksgiving game, I, for one, really just dont like them. There is a difference between a rival, whom you respect and compete with yearly but still want to beat the hell out of, and someone whom you just hate (i.e. tu). I fall into the "hate" category, as I feel there isnt anything that tu brings to the table that's worth even being around them anymore. Maybe more tv time/national recognition (pre-SEC move), but now that we're en route to SEC (we pray), we'll get plenty of that in the new conference.

I could easily see an OOC game becoming the staple rivalry game for us and tu.

If we play them in the future, great. I'd love to whoop up on them; but if we dont, not a real loss to me.

Tea sipping cookie pushers...tsips

With the exception of tu, the Aggies really don't have any real rivalries left in the Big XII-3-and-counting. Having Baylor as a rival is like us Vol fans having Vanderbad as a rival - big ****ing deal. They are a welfare queen in our conference just like Baylor. Plus, nobody gives a rat's arse about Tech.

All I'll say is this. We need to play the Longhorns every year after we beat on the SEC. There is too much history and tradition involved with playing this game. I love to hate losing this game. I love winning this game. It's such a special game and should be preserved for anyone that truly loves Texas and it's football traditions.

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Agree with Slocum. Worst thing about going to SEC would be the possibility of losing the t.u. game. No burning desire, no need for a symbol of the burning desire, no bonfire.

That ball's not in our court, guys.

If THEY choose to continue, we should INSIST
on an OCTOBER...period...matchup.

We're fair...THEY can choose. Would you prefer
the week before/after the Red River Shooting?
Schools in superior conferences have no incentive for rivalry "trap" games with opponents from inferior conferences, late season...

You see, we're going to the big boy table.

But...they're Texas, and they can choose.
We offered.

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Correct.
Sometimes summaries cut out too much detail. He was a fish the follow fall.

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SEC connections with A&M:

Bear Bryant: Kentucky, A&M, Alabama

Jackie Sherrill: Alabama Grad/played & coached for the Bear, Head Coach at Pittsburgh, A&M & MSU.

Emory Bellard: Head Coach at A&M and MSU.

Dennis Franchione: Head Coach at Alabama & A&M

Gene Stallings: Played for the Bear, coached for the Bear. Head Coach at A&M & Alabama. 68 cotton bowl Gene vs the Bear.

LSU Longtime out of conference rival. Great trips to New Orleans for yell practice and Baton Rouge for the game.

Arkansas former SWC rival when the SWC was in it's heyday.

UTVOL's stadium is named after a Former Aggie.

And I am sure there are a few others.

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You forgot Jimmy Johnson...

Played at Arkansas and sighted in College Station multiple times in the past decade.