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Saxsoon
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For those who believe the myth that Kyle Field is a memorial to the fallen of the World Wars it simply is not so. Until we removed the artificial turf several years back, PE classes were routinely held on Kyle Field.


http://www.aggieathletics.com/genrel/112410aab.html

Let the ****storm begin.
MouthBQ98
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Technically he is correct. The field has never been memorialized in a formal way. And they did use it for extracurricular activities in the past. BQ's used to play football on it in the offseason, and we ran sprints on it before for PT.
ColleyvilleAg06
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And so it begins...
MaysGrad09
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Who claimed it was a memorial?
DevilD77
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Never has been. I played frisbee and flag football there more times then I can remember. The US flags flying over Kyle Field are a remembrance of the Aggies who died in WWI, not a memorial.
bojangles
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it is a shame that new army is so stupid that byrne needed to point that out.
FairwayAg
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Soccer class on Kyle field was suhweet back in the day.

Faber College '62
Saxsoon
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Everyone who is pissed about fans rushing the field and uncover nazis.
Ozamataz Buckshank 01
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It is not an official memorial, but 55 flags fly over Kyle Field for the Aggies that died during World War I. Aggies can keep their hats on or rush the field after an awesome win, but I still get chills seeing the 55 flags flying over Kyle to memorialize those that died in the Great War.
MaysGrad09
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Uncover Nazis in my day were like the live version of an internet troll. They did it for ****s and giggles to get a rise out of people. It was a joke. I assume people take them as seriously now as we did when I was a student.
NoACDamnit
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"It is not an official memorial, but 55 flags fly over Kyle Field for the Aggies that died during World War I."

This isn't true.
BrazosDog02
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The flags are great and all, but Kyle field never has been a 'memorial'.

If I remember correctly, before it was built as a football stadium of sorts, there was some idea about building a memorial center and stadium or something, but that never happened and it was just a stadium. So, I think that is where the idea came from that it was a memorial, even though its not.

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This isn't true.



You may want to alert the Corps of Cadets so they can have their new Cadences revised.

[This message has been edited by jed1154 (edited 11/24/2010 4:03p).]
aggiegator10
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Who claimed it was a memorial?

People are mad about rushing the field because it isn't classy.
BrazosDog02
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And to them, i say F--- YOU.

Memorial or not...we are the students, we can rush our damn field if we want.

How's that for class?
Ozamataz Buckshank 01
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Check out the Aggie Campusology book that all fish have to carry around them. It states for how Aggies are remembered for giving their lives during WWI, "55 Flags fly over Kyle Field, and there is a granite memorial at West Gate." Kyle is not a memorial, but the 55 flags are placed there as a rememberance. Look, A&M has a great military tradition, and if you don't like that, then you should have gone to tu.
Zobel
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NoACDamnit
Ha...non regs are funny. Yes, there are 55 flags that fly over Kyle for the 55 Aggies who died in WWI. There is also a granite memorial at west gate (near Simpson drill field) for the same purpose.
BrazosDog02
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Check out the Aggie Campusology book that all fish have to carry around them.


This.
95_Aggie
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The flags are the memorial ... not the stands or the field below them.
Bird Poo
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NOAC? Care to chime in high speed?

I also think it is hilarious that we kicked all that tsip azz after the game in '95 because our upperclassman thought the sips were committing the ultimate sin. Oh well--it was well worth it.
VoodooAg
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Cadence or not, the flags are simply coincidence. They were not originally intended as a memorial.


Makes you wonder though: what does it take to consider something a memorial? If enough people agree, that should do it.

Likewise, enough students obviously agreed that Kyle Field is NOT a memorial. Thus, they rushed the field.


Note: DKR IS a memorial to all Texans who have died in wars. See the plaques at many of the field entrances.
NoACDamnit
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You guys realize that the corps saying something is true does not make it true right?

Its a myth. Its a firmly entrenched myth but you will find no sources detailing the flags being a memorial from the time they were placed.

This ones high on the list of A&M urban legends that the A&M historian in the history department (name is escapping me) mentions in his talks.
MaysGrad09
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Cadence or not, the flags are simply coincidence. They were not originally intended as a memorial.


I've read the same thing. I'll try and find the link.
outlaw96
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I had soccer class on the astro turf in 94. I support preventing opposing fans from rushing the field and having a party (see t.u. 1995), but if we win, have at it.

It's not a memorial.
The Milkman
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Cadence or not, the flags are simply coincidence. They were not originally intended as a memorial.


This. There are 55 flags because of the number of sections at Kyle. The rest is coincidence. Because we are a school that is apt to honoring those who have come before us, it is fantastic that we have recognized the numbers matching and do what we can to keep those in mind. However, simple coincidence.
mtjoy
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Elephant walk used to start on Kyle Field. So apparently dousing it and each other with shaving cream, ketchup, and mustard was OK at one point.
duffelpud
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It is TOO a memorial for those who are members of the Fifty Yard Line Club.
71txag
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Keep your butt off Kyle Field..it damages the grass, it is also a safety issue. BUT IF YOU BEAT NEB. ALL RULES ARE NULL AND VOID. Gig'em
NoACDamnit
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Im all for keeping the field in good shape.
texaggie2009
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it is a shame that new army is so stupid that byrne needed to point that out.


You cannot be this dumb.
aggiebrad94
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I used to run out on the field as a kid after games and get wrist bands and elbow pads from the players.
ABATTBQ87
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This. There are 55 flags because of the number of sections at Kyle. The rest is coincidence. Because we are a school that is apt to honoring those who have come before us, it is fantastic that we have recognized the numbers matching and do what we can to keep those in mind. However, simple coincidence.


In the 1954 AGGIE CAMPUSOLOGY BOOK:

Question: How are the 52 Aggies killed in WWI commemorated?

Answer: There are 52 trees, at the base of which are stone markers, around the main drill field; there are 52 flags flying over Kyle Field at each football game; and there is a granite memorial at the west gate.
Hamburger Dan
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Just asking a question - How come Kyle Field still uses grass. There are about a 1/2 dozen types of "Field Turf" available nowadays.
CGSC Lobotomy
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I thought 55 was for WWI, not WWII.
FAST FRED
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Kyle Field itself is not a memorial.

The 55 American flags around the top of the stadium and the large flag poles are specific memorials.

We hold Kyle Field dear and we protect and defend it, but we don't revere it as a memorial like the MSC.

We're, in fact, not even completely sure which of two illustrious Mr. Kyles that it's named for.



Our fish chase the Yell Leaders across it.

Boot line takes place on it.

Some people stand on it at Midnight Yell Practice.

We used to play touch football and toss frisbees on it.

Our elephant walk included going on the field.

Amorous students hook up on it.

I used to take my kids down on its edge to watch pregame warm ups before going to our seats.

Other schools' fans celebrating on it when we get outscored should be prevented by police (not Corps ODs) to prevent fights.

But I think our team calling down our students to sing and sway alongside them after a big victory is fine.

The students weren't out of control or doing dangerous, destructive things as has happened elsewhere like by Tech and Baylor.

I didn't go down myself, but it looked pretty cool to me.



Stop the intrusive overuse of the Jumbotron, let the Aggie Yell Leaders and the FTAB once again be in charge of the Aggie Spirit with more yells and more music and, IMHO, have some Aggie girls like the Aggie Dance Team on the sidelines of Kyle Field being young, pretty and enthusiastic about Aggieland to better show off our current student diversity.

They can shake pom poms, be spirited and hump it and yell at the Yell Leaders' direction and even perform a dance routine to canned musioc at halftime on Kyle Field before the FTAB does their thing.

Especially when the visiting team doesn't even bring a marching band, as so often happens, because that extra time is now given to Jumbo.

All that, IMO, would make the Kyle Field gameday experience even better.

JMO.




BTHO tu!!!!

Where you will be warned about and prevented from going on their Joe Jamail Field before or after a game and arrested if you insist upon doing it.





Here are some other posts about Kyle Field:

http://www.agtimes.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=70045&highlight=kyle+field

http://www.agtimes.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=70071

This is how I learned about cover or uncover, how I did it both in and out of uniform, and how I still do it:



I was in the Corps.

The Corps is in uniform at football games.

The uniform includes a hat.

After march in, the units are dismissed to watch the game.

The members of a unit take off their cover and wildcat as a unit.

The underclassmen then continue to do their class wildcat up the ramp into the stadium.

Uncovering allows the otherwise uniformed cadets to maintain a reduced state of military bearing, so they can loudly yell, wildly wildcat, enthusiastically chase down and carry out yell leaders and wantonly kiss their dates during and immediately after the game.

If an American flag passes by, you cover and salute it.

Same thing when the stadium's American flag is raised and the Star-Spangled Banner is played.

Within the stadium (or any other building) you otherwise remain uncovered, unless you increase your military bearing and courtesy to report to a real active duty military officer.

If you just pass by an active duty officer while you are in a reduced state of military bearing, you just say, "Good afternoon, Sir."

You don't put your cover back on or salute, if you're at/in a dance, store, bus, library, classroom or private home, etc.

Even if the Army (Navy, AF, CG) officer is still covered.

All this is within Kyle Field or any other building or place where reduced military bearing is in use.

When you exit Kyle Field, the cover goes back on, unless you're carrying a yell leader to the fish pond or following the FTAB to aftergame yell practice.

If you're doing that, celebrating and/or singing, you continue until the yell practice is over.

Aggie fish don't whip out while they are uncovered, unless they want to or are called upon by an upperclassman.

Afterward, you cover and go about your normal business in full uniform.



Kyle Field is not and has never been a memorial.

It certainly is a place to show respect and the flags around the stadium do memorialize our war dead, but the MSC and the other dedicated monuments and flags around campus are our actual memorials.

I think all men and women should remove their cover in the MSC.

If a woman is wearing a veil, I would think she could be exempted from this.

I have and will discreetly remind hat-wearers to remove their cover in the MSC and I hope if I ever forget to uncover when I enter, that some Aggie will courteously remind me.

I don't make a big deal of it if someone is wearing their hat in the MSC, either by mistake or by conscious choice.



I'm no longer in the Corps and nowadays, most Aggies don't wear uniforms.

Those not in uniform can wear a hat in Kyle Field.

They always could.

I do it regularly.

I take it off and place my hand over my heart for passing American flags and our national anthem.

I remove my hat and stand for all alma maters, including The Spirit and our opponent's school song.

I remove my hat and hump it when doing our yells.

Then I put it back on to shade my head and eyes.

If it's hot, I might take it off.

I wear it to show my school pride during our fight song, when I sing and sway with my fellow Ags for the War Hymn.

I used to always take it off when we prayed before games and I still do if a moment of silent meditation is called for.

In short, those in uniform who are not on duty in Kyle Field can enjoy a time of relaxed military courtesy and bearing while watching the game.

Anyone else can wear a hat or not, their choice.

If they wear hats, I think they should take it off to show respect for Old Glory, The Star-Spangled Banner and even when talking to ladies and old men, if they so choose.

Those on duty in the stadium, like our ODs, policemen and state troopers, wear their complete uniforms to show their continuing on duty status.

I actually don't care much for the image of anyone in uniform twirling a spirit towel, but I certainly wish our ODs wouldn't do it.

They are in full uniform, covered and still on duty.

I won't ever complain about any Aggie showing school spirit because that's a good thing, but I personally wouldn't choose to be seen twirling a towel while wearing a saber and a cool cavalry campaign hat.

This is how I remember learning the various ins and outs of cover and uncover.



BTW, it once was a Senior privilege to stand on the wood of the seats in Kyle Field.

And back then, it actually was wood and not aluminium.

Sergebutts were often granted wood privileges by Seniors.

This could be given to any Junior by any Senior.

I remember that sometimes the Senior class would take the entire Junior class' wood privilege away.

Nothing would be said aloud for the underclassmen to overhear, the Seniors would just pass the word and the Junior class would comply.

If someone was hurt on the field you could sit down while the 12th Man was silent, until the injured player got up or off the field.

Back then, many non-regs would comply with class privileges too.

By choice, with some enforcement by non-reg upperclassmen.



Gig 'em, FAST FRED '65.

Before the world wide web, village idiots usually stayed in their own village.

[This message has been edited by FAST FRED (edited 12/1/2010 4:24p).]
nbbob
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Do freshman really have to carry that book around?
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