please share you experience in grants.

cleary you are basing your opinion of some factual info

michiganalum,
good post. It really is silly to be excited about TV contracts in the 20-30M annual range and completely ignore the potential annual bump of 100M's in research $. But as long as the big money Ags care more about minimizing travel time to games than research (research - isn't that something the hippie liberals do), we'll probably be stuck in the company of mediocre SEC schools or so-so PAC10 schools.

If the Big 10 rumors are true, I don't think the higher ups are gonna pass it up. This is more than about football, which is what 90% of the people on this board can ONLY think about. Big 10 invite is an opportunity that cannot be passed up.

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You just answered your own question. If tu goes A&M wants to go the opposite direction. About time we stepped out of their shadow.

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If we separate just to separate that is the epitome of little dick syndrome.

We should not want to go to the SEC for the same reasons Texas doesn't and we should want to go to the Big 10 because it has the best mixture of athletics and education.

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What the **** do academics have to with where we play sports??

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The decision is made by the university president and board of regents.

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If we separate just to separate that is the epitome of little dick syndrome.

We should not want to go to the SEC for the same reasons Texas doesn't and we should want to go to the Big 10 because it has the best mixture of athletics and education.

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couldn't agree more. big ten is by far the best option.

I agree. IMHO the Big Televen is the only choice we have available right now that actually has the potential to help us, and at the same time give Zero U. and OSU problems. Don't like the PAC-16 idea at all, and definitely don't want to open Texas recruiting grounds up for the SEC schools any more than they already are; plus that doesn't even take into account the embarrassment of being beaten convincingly on a weekly basis by just about every SEC team we play; which has no hope of being reversed in the future, with the already-arrogant SEC making more inroads into the state with the best football recruiting in the nation (with the possible exception of Florida), allowing them to become better and better and bringing in even more competition for Texas recruits than we have now.

We already see the top recruits in Texas going to tu, Zero U, OSU, NE, etc, what's going to happen if we let Alabama, GA, FL, AU, and TN etc in on the hunt?

God, I get so tired of these CIC suckers

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I present to you the cases of UT and Penn State, since they are a good comparison, ranked similarly by US News and about equally "prestigious" in the big picture. It's about as apples-to-apples as you can get, university profile wide.

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Your "apples to apples" comparison is for the Penn State SYSTEM vs the UT-Austin single campus. There are lots of factors that affect the relative growth of R&D expenditures.
You could make as strong an argument that snow leads to higher R&D funding as for the CIC.

OKC-Ag is correct from my POV as someone who has reviewed NIH and NSF grants for the period shown in those tables. I also got my PhD at a Big 10 University and I never heard of the CIC until idiots on FB boards started trotting it out.

What I fear is that our BoR is dumb enough to buy the CIC argument.