But we applaud and give special recognition (Spirit Tags) to t-shirt Aggie fans?

You must not have ever visited the South Side of San Antonio.

Being a spirited fan of a team that is playing poorly is different than buying the Wal-mart version of the national champs t-shirt.

most spirit Ags gave birth to real Ags

It's more of the bandwagon fans that talk trash based on Texas' accomplishments that people hate...

The people that claim A&M at this point are true fans...or love disappointment.

Maybe the fact that most T-shirt ags don't run up to me inside walmart to flash me a gig'em and tell me how much the longhorns stink.

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It's more of the bandwagon fans that talk trash based on Texas' accomplishments that people hate...

The people that claim A&M at this point are true fans...or love disappointment.

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winner

Because T-shirt Aggies shop at Target.

OK, here goes:

A Spirit Tag is not a t-shirt. Any idiot off the street can go into WalMart and buy a t-shirt and declare themselves to officially be part of whatever team happens to be winning at the moment.

At A&M, spirit goes beyond wins and losses of the sports teams. It's a true love for the institution itself and what it stands for. In order to get a Spirit Tag, you have to demonstrate true Aggie Spirit, not "oh I'm the biggest football fan ever! (tu spirit)

But that's one of the things that makes A&M so special. Our love for our school is not defined purely by the fortunes of the major sports program as it is at every other public U.

Sure, wining is fun and we all want more of it, but even now, after a decade of mediocrity in our best sport and little else athletically to brag about, we don't mothball our pride and spirit like others do, because we know we are Texas Aggies and we know that what that means goes far deeper than anything that could ever be achieved on the sports field.

To get a Spirit Tag, you have to demonstrate that, despite not having the diploma, you know what it means too.

Because ags wish they had a successful team to rag on Horns about (they don't hesitate to do so when the opportunity is there) and since they don't, they resent (envy) those who do. They have nothing on Texas students or Texas grads, but believe (mistakenly) that they do have something on people who are Texas fans who didn't attend Texas or who didn't attend college at all. Envy can drive otherwise normal people to believe all kinds of stupid such as this "tshirt" thing that proliferates among losers.

Ok maybe Spirit tags were a bad example. But A&M does have its fair share of t-shirt fans (Blinn) that run their mouths to t-sips that nobody seems to mind.

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Because ags wish they had a successful team to rag on Horns about (they don't hesitate to do so when the opportunity is there) and since they don't, they resent (envy) those who do. They have nothing on Texas students or Texas grads, but believe (mistakenly) that they do have something on people who are Texas fans who didn't attend Texas or who didn't attend college at all. Envy can drive otherwise normal people to believe all kinds of stupid such as this "tshirt" thing that proliferates among losers.

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GREAT POST Reaper!!! So we have nothing on Texas students or Texas grads?? Another proud example as to why Texas t-shirt fans are the worst!

One of my good friends who actually went to Texas doesn't talk as much crap as Reaper and most t-shirt fans do. Yeah, we have our rivalry and we talk crap to each other. He can't even stand people like Reaper and the rest of the t-shirt Texas fans who are the thorn in his univeristy's side.

Thanks for posting Reaper!


Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2002

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I mind.

T-shirt fans are a necessary evil but an evil none the less.

I respect actual Longhorn grads because they sweated and sacrificed to get a degree from a highly respected university. Most real Horns feel the same way about A&M grads. We give each other crap but most of the time it's the friendly sort with no real ill will meant.

I think we both can even respect true Spirit Fans (ie those with close ties, real love for the school and stick with the teams through thick and thin).

What I have no tolerance for those with no ties to a school and or those who didn't work hard enough to go to Texas or A&M but still jump on the bandwagon of whoever happens to be winning at the moment.

I have 2 friends (shsu grads) that are die hard aggies fans, and they talk more trash than anyone should about a team that's .500 over the last 8 years.

I don't see how aggies think only aggies are fans of their school. Do you guys think just because y'all have been terrible lately no one wants to be an aggie "t shirt" fan??? Wrong, and these jokers have been calling me asking if I was ready for Alabama to murder Texas and so on.

I'm quite certain Texags in general will be very accepting of t-shirt fans when TAMU gets some in the future.

It's just the nature of the rivalry. UT has them now, so shirt fans are to be despised.

They don't bother me for the most part, I just ignore them. My t-sip cousins do the same for what that's worth.

Shouldn't we be discussing sweatshirt fans this time of year?

Nah, velour track suit fans.

I dislike rude idiots. Lots of t-shirt fans are rude idiots, trying to talk trash even though they went to SFA or ETBU. It is their behavior while wearing the shirt, not the fact that they are wearing it.


I have no doubt that there are morons in maroon talking crap to longhorns, but since I've never had a run-in with them for obvious reasons, I've never said anything about it.

Aggies resent Texas' t-shirt fans because they are a significant reason why Texas is swimming in profit and A&M's athletic department had to borrow money to function.

Every school has t-shirt fans. Some are 'model fans' while others are obnoxious. Obviously the more successful you are, the more non-alum fans you will attract. Texas simply has more because of their program's success. The hatred for t-shirt fans here is simply thinly veiled resentment over Texas' success and A&M's lack thereof.

Texas, class of 03'

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our hatred of tshirt fans is so strong that we actually tanked our program to get rid of them

Why can't someone be a fan of a team even if they didn't attend that school? Are all NFL fans t-shirt fans since they didn't play or work for the team? If living in the host city is a requirement, then why can't Austin residents root for them and not be "evil"? As long as they don't trash A&M academically, which would be disingenuous, I don't see the big problem. Trash talk is a part of sports.

whenever ANYONE has ever started talking supports smack from any school, I have immediately asked them when they graduated from said smack school- if they tell a year, I listen and talk smack back... if they cannot, then I choose not to listen and ignore them, as they have no real investment in said university- merely choosing a school because they might be winning at this time

I do not remember many sip t-shirts boys in the 80's-90's- in fact, I do not remember many bumper stickers, t-shirts, etc. during that time... hmmmm

I follow some other schools for fun- but do not talk trash to their opponents fans, wear their gear or constantly say "we" when referring to them

be a sip t-shirt fan all you want to- just do not get in my face and say "we did this" or "we did that"... my lawn guys do not do that while they do their work wearing their cheap Walmart sip garb, so maybe you can take a lesson from them...

We hate all teasips, whether they went to school there or not.

It seems to me as you drive (very carefully) through South San Antonio- Oak Cliff- East Houston- even El Paso most people with t-shirts or vehicle IDs only have them to identify themselves with Texas or the US. They have no idea what they are wearing.. tu has just become the style they like to show where they are from.

SUNFLOWER

Because as bad as we have been the last couple years, if they are wearing our shirt and didn't go to A&M, we should give them some sort of a spirt tag/prize because thats dedication.

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Underrated post. Well done IL. Gave me a good chuckle.

It's really only a "problem" when they choose to talk trash. For example, when we lost 49-9 last year (which was expected by anyone that had watched a single A&M game that year), I received taunts from the following people. 1) a friend from Tulane whose brother graduated from UT, 2) a family member who didn't get in to A&M and therefore hates it, and 3) a Texas State friend who works in Austin on weekends. So basically, people totally unaffiliated with the school.

But the worst part is that I never taunt ANYONE about anything, especially people unaffiliated with either team. I kept my mouth shut when Fran won the last two years. I think the actual Longhorn students knew better than to say anything.

What bothers Ags the most, I think, is that there's no defense to these kind of fairweather fans. When UT is good, they can say "Oh yeah, I've always been a Longhorn fan." When UT loses, they're nowhere to be seen. Frustrating.

It also bothers some people that a student of one school (say, North Texas) will have much more loyalty to the 'horns because they would occasionally watch them play on TV as a child. I guess for Aggies, where everything is A&M-loyalty, it seems a little odd. (But therein lies the dilemma - if someone has been a lifelong A&M fan but didn't get in, should they be forced to become UNT fans just out of affiliation? I don't know the answer. Heh.)

Just my 2 cents.

College and NFL team support are totally different. I don't understand tshirt's. Unless you went to a school I don't know how you can be a true diehard fan of the school. It seems to me you would have an inferiority complex to those who actually attended the school and are legit fans.

As soon as the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, we'll see all the t-shirts change from burnt orange to silver and blue. Most of those lost souls have had nothing to cheer for since 1996 so when the whorns starting doing well, they naturally needed to belong to something so they gravitated to them.

When A&M was doing good, the only t-shirt fans I new of were high school kids who got their acceptance letters awaiting their turn in College Station.

At least the kids who are t-shirt sip fans at least have a chance to go there. It's the post high school losers I really have pitty on.

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In short, because t-shirt fans of any team are only there for the good, not the bad. When real fans of a team are experience the heartache of loss, those panty waists are dancing and yucking it up in the corner somewhere and moved on 5 seconds after the game was over.

Notre Dame probably has the most t shirt fans, but all of the schools with winning traditions have them. A&M just needs to get a winning tradition and they will have some too.

t-shirt sip...

In 2006 was wearing OSU colors
In 2007 was wearing Florida colors
In 2008 was wearing LSU colors
In 2009 was wearing Florida colors again
In 2010 was wearing tu colors until January 8th, when it switches to Alabama

Everybody in Texas who has Eyes can be a Texas fan. When they play the Eyes of Texas when the Longhorns play Oklahoma, every true Texan wants Texas to kick the Sooner's butt.

The Spirit of Aggieland applies only to Aggies who seem rather bent on keeping it just for Aggies.

Well and good, but why cast aspersions on non-Texas goers who are proud to see the Lone Star Flag waved in venues like the Rose Bowl.

This thread is useless without pics.

The issue is that we're generalizing all sip t-shirt fans in this thread. Several of my friends are sip t-shirt fans for one reason or another, but they're not total d-bags, and really only talk smack regarding sports the weeks of the games.

The t-shirt fans that are the issues are the d-bags that thend to run thier mouths for no reason any time they see someone wearing A&M gear.

For example:

I'm at HEB checking out in a line with a cashier who is clearly much older than I am. They see that I'm wearing an A&M shirt, and generally posit something like "So did you go to A&M?", to which I reply something like "Hell yes I did!", and I'll receive "Oh, I'm sorry" as a response.

Really? You're sorry? Because the last time I checked I got a high paying job straight out of college becasue of the education that I received at my school, while your a f***ing cashier at HEB...But please keep talking...

Aggies in Austin have to deal with this bulls**t everywhere we go, and it's extremely tiring. And as was posted above, it's usually only the t-shirt fans that feel they have the right to mouth off to us, which is why there is so much hate for them.

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