"Hitler and the Nazis - Evil on Trial" Netflix Documentary

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HillCountry15
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5:28p, 6/9/24
Anyone watched this? Looks like a new 6 part documentary on Netflix. Just started episode 2. Covers the Nuremberg trials as well as the rise and fall of the Nazi Party. So far, everything seems to be fairly accurate to me, although I lean more towards the Pacific theater in my WWII dives.

Only glaring error I found was in the opening scene, the depict a dramatized re-enactment of hitler's death, and he uses a Luger.
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7:49p, 6/9/24
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 8:04p, 6/9/24
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What did he use?
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 8:28p, 6/9/24
CanyonAg77 said:
What did he use?
I've always read/heard that he used a Walther on top of eating a cyanide capsule
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 8:45p, 6/9/24
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HillCountry15 said:
CanyonAg77 said:
What did he use?
I've always read/heard that he used a Walther on top of eating a cyanide capsule
I do recall poison plus pistol, didn't recall which one.

His only error was using it 13 years too late.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 8:57p, 6/9/24
CanyonAg77 said:
HillCountry15 said:
CanyonAg77 said:
What did he use?
I've always read/heard that he used a Walther on top of eating a cyanide capsule
I do recall poison plus pistol, didn't recall which one.

His only error was using it 13 years too late.
Agree completely. Have you heard the story of the WWI Allied soldier who apparently had Hitler in his aim and decided to let him live? I've seen it talked about in a documentary or two, but never dived deep enough to learn if it was fact or just a war story
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 10:07a, 6/10/24
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Sounds dubious, how did he know it was Hitler?
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10:14a, 6/10/24
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I've heard the "I could have killed Hitler in WWI" story. I think it's possible.

That being said, I doubt it would make a difference. I tend to think of history as inevitable. If the Wrights didn't exist, someone else would have figured out the airplane.

Someone else would have taken advantage of the terrible situation in 1930s Germany and risen to power. Heck, they might have not been a meth addict who felt compelled to micromanage every part of the war. Or they might have taken Jews on as partners, not enemies. Imagine if German Jews were given rifles, instead of wasting resources to transport and kill them. Imagine all the brilliant minds who built the American Atomic bomb, had they stayed in Germany and built one there.
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 10:16a, 6/10/24
HillCountry15 said:
Anyone watched this? Looks like a new 6 part documentary on Netflix. Just started episode 2. Covers the Nuremberg trials as well as the rise and fall of the Nazi Party. So far, everything seems to be fairly accurate to me, although I lean more towards the Pacific theater in my WWII dives.

Only glaring error I found was in the opening scene, the depict a dramatized re-enactment of hitler's death, and he uses a Luger.
as opposed to a Parabellum?

historians have been arguing whether it was a bullet or poison that he offed himself first.

Heinz Linge proferred different testimony than others in the bunker.
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In reply to BQ78 • 3:58p, 6/10/24
BQ78 said:
Sounds dubious, how did he know it was Hitler?


I think Hitler mentioned a British soldier deciding not to fire on him during WW1. Hitler tied that into his "providence saved me" narrative.
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4:05p, 6/10/24
Does it mention Hitler's heavy use of cocaine and opiates?
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In reply to BillYeoman • 5:41p, 6/10/24
BillYeoman said:
BQ78 said:
Sounds dubious, how did he know it was Hitler?


I think Hitler mentioned a British soldier deciding not to fire on him during WW1. Hitler tied that into his "providence saved me" narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-28593256
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In reply to Tanker123 • 9:44p, 6/10/24
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Tanker123 said:
Does it mention Hitler's heavy use of cocaine and opiates?
Little known fact Hitler actually started WWII to pay off his massive gambling debts after his foolproof system that won 99% of the time saw him lose 73 million Reichsmark betting against Jesse Owens in the 1936 Berlin Olympics.
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In reply to Smeghead4761 • 10:05p, 6/10/24
Smeghead4761 said:
BillYeoman said:
BQ78 said:
Sounds dubious, how did he know it was Hitler?


I think Hitler mentioned a British soldier deciding not to fire on him during WW1. Hitler tied that into his "providence saved me" narrative.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-28593256



Good article. Thanks for sharing.
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 3:31p, 6/12/24
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Watched the first two episodes and a couple of things...

Nazis study Jim Crow Era laws and implement similar laws on Jews.

"Make Germany great again" used to describe Hitler's militarization of the Rhineland.
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 5:58a, 6/13/24
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HillCountry15 said:
CanyonAg77 said:
What did he use?
I've always read/heard that he used a Walther on top of eating a cyanide capsule


It was a Walther PP and not to be confused with the PPK.

It most certainly was not a Luger.
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In reply to Gator92 • 6:01a, 6/13/24
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They also studied our treatment of the Native Americans….
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 10:14a, 6/13/24
I watched Episode 1 last night

the actual history seems pretty correct

really dislike modern actors playing the Nazis- they don't look like them at all and they could just use video from the period
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In reply to HillCountry15 • 12:39p, 6/13/24
HillCountry15 said:
CanyonAg77 said:
HillCountry15 said:
CanyonAg77 said:
What did he use?
I've always read/heard that he used a Walther on top of eating a cyanide capsule
I do recall poison plus pistol, didn't recall which one.

His only error was using it 13 years too late.
Agree completely. Have you heard the story of the WWI Allied soldier who apparently had Hitler in his aim and decided to let him live? I've seen it talked about in a documentary or two, but never dived deep enough to learn if it was fact or just a war story

I think that's a tall tale

how could a British Tommy know it was Adolf Hitler in his sights?!

Hitler was predominantly a runner for his regiment- behind the lines.

as others mentioned- Hitler had a huge incentive to propagate stories of his miraculous surviving from near death experiences

all to prove to the world he was a godlike figure sent to lead Germany.
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In reply to byfLuger41 • 7:36p, 6/13/24
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byfLuger41 said:
HillCountry15 said:
CanyonAg77 said:
What did he use?
I've always read/heard that he used a Walther on top of eating a cyanide capsule


It was a Walther PP and not to be confused with the PPK.

It most certainly was not a Luger.
Right on both counts. The PPK was a slightly smaller version of the PP and meant as a "pocket pistol" for detective types. Otherwise, nearly identical.

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6:03a, 6/24/24
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A bit off topic but regarding the Trials at Nuremberg, pretty incredible story of the Chaplain who accepted the assignment to minister to the Nazi war criminals. Spoiler alert - many were born again Christians prior to their sentencing due God working through Henry Gerecke.

I first discovered Henry Gerecke's story as I went through a book called "War and Grace" with some other men from church. I highly recommend if that's something of interest. Easy reading and gets into some really cool stories from men and women during WW1&2.

https://thechaplainkit.com/history/stories/chaplain-henry-gerecke-nuremberg-chaplain/

Apologies again for the sidebar - thought this may be of interest to some here.
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In reply to 10andBOUNCE • 7:59a, 6/26/24
10andBOUNCE said:
A bit off topic but regarding the Trials at Nuremberg, pretty incredible story of the Chaplain who accepted the assignment to minister to the Nazi war criminals. Spoiler alert - many were born again Christians prior to their sentencing due God working through Henry Gerecke.

I first discovered Henry Gerecke's story as I went through a book called "War and Grace" with some other men from church. I highly recommend if that's something of interest. Easy reading and gets into some really cool stories from men and women during WW1&2.

https://thechaplainkit.com/history/stories/chaplain-henry-gerecke-nuremberg-chaplain/

Apologies again for the sidebar - thought this may be of interest to some here.
That's very interesting and something had never heard or read before. Thank you very much for sharing.
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2:46p, 7/5/24
Agree completely. Have you heard the story of the WWI Allied soldier who apparently had Hitler in his aim and decided to let him live? I've seen it talked about in a documentary or two, but never dived deep enough to learn if it was fact or just a war story
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Livetosmoke said:
Agree completely. Have you heard the story of the WWI Allied soldier who apparently had Hitler in his aim and decided to let him live

Eight times in this very thread, not counting your post
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10:56a, 7/27/24
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All those folks on one plane in July 1945 (to the US) is sort of amazing.

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9:39a, 7/28/24
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Did the program present any new facts that we didn't know? It seems that 99% of the details re: Hitler have been covered over the years, with most of the newer documentaries filled w/conjecture sans authentication. - I don't have Netflix.
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In reply to Cen-Tex • 8:48a, 8/24/24
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Cen-Tex said:
Did the program present any new facts that we didn't know? It seems that 99% of the details re: Hitler have been covered over the years, with most of the newer documentaries filled w/conjecture sans authentication. - I don't have Netflix.
I just started watching this morning. While I'm only on the first episode (and will watch the entire thing), I have not heard anything that should not already be known to anyone with an interest in this history.

What I did notice is unsurprising. Never let a bunch of leftists (Netflix) write their version of history. "Make Germany great again". Nazis = right-wing. To my knowledge, there never was a slogan MGGA similar to the recent MAGA here in the States. And nope, the Nazis are not the historical equivalent of the modern American right-wing. Yes, they were nationalists, but they were first and foremost socialists.
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