Pretty good interview with Elon Musk about engineering throughout history in warfare, mostly air warfare. Elon gets really geeked out talking about WWII fighter planes.

Here is the description:

EP17 Engineering Victory with Elon
"Elon Musk and Bill Riley from SpaceX join Dan to discuss the underappreciated role of science and engineering in war. As you might imagine, military aircraft feature prominently in the conversation."

Link: https://www.dancarlin.com/
It's on the homepage, or on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, or Youtube.

As a non-engineer, it's well worth the listen.