Spanish Texas

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Jaydoug
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For those of you who like to read history and want to understand Texas' beginnings as a Spanish colony to eventual Anglo-American takeover. Some dry parts to skim but fascinating nonetheless. Especially for us lucky enough to be born here (7th generation). I rarely considered that Spain owned this place for 300 years and there were many more Spanish governors than there have been Anglo.

Several surprising things to me. Never knew New Mexico was populated so much faster than Texas and surprised how long it took to populate Texas compared to northern Mexico. There was a century of cattle drives to Louisiana well before the Anglo-led drives north after the civil war, and it interesting how late the Comanches entered into Texas. I also did not know how much of Texas law was held over from Spanish law in lieu of Anglo law.
huisachel
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Donald Chipman has been the go to guy on this area for history for a good while; his judgments are sound and his research very good. And he writes well for a professional historian. There are a lot of excellent historians working this field now and they owe a lot to his work.
CanyonAg77
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Just got back from Albuquerque. Went down to Old Town, and had supper in a house built in 1706. The church on the square there was built in 1793, but only because the original 1706 church collapsed. And Santa Fe, just up the road, is nearly 100 years older. Had been settled a decade when those latecomer Pilgrims showed up in Massachusetts.

I find it amazing that the (European) history of New Mexico is almost three centuries older than the history of the nearby Texas Panhandle. And of course, the Pueblo people had already been living in Taos for at least 600 years before the Spanish showed up.
BQ78
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It's all thanks to a Frenchman, my 8X GF, who came into Texas and down to Mexico from Louisiana. It so alarmed the Spanish that they got a bunch of Canary Islanders to build Dirty SA and a more permanent Spanish presence in Tejas.
Rabid Cougar
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Just got back from Albuquerque. Went down to Old Town, and had supper in a house built in 1706. The church on the square there was built in 1793, but only because the original 1706 church collapsed. And Santa Fe, just up the road, is nearly 100 years older. Had been settled a decade when those latecomer Pilgrims showed up in Massachusetts.

I find it amazing that the (European) history of New Mexico is almost three centuries older than the history of the nearby Texas Panhandle. And of course, the Pueblo people had already been living in Taos for at least 600 years before the Spanish showed up.
Yes but there was place south of there in Texas that the Spanish were at in 1598.....
p_bubel
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Living in San Antonio, and being active near downtown as much as I can, it's a part of my everyday life.

Hell, I grew up just off Nacogdoches Rd. ( the old camino real )

The Apache and Comanche really put the screws to development in southern Texas. In a weird twist, while the Spanish were having little success in getting people to San Antonio, Nacogdoches was apparently thriving in the deep woods of east Texas. Completely cut off from the crown.

The city is in the midst of planning a large 300th birthday celebration for 2018. ( Within months of New Orleans' party for the same reason.) Should be a fun year.
aalan94
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Read this book over a decade ago. It's still a good one.

By the way, I'm working on my thesis now, dealing with Spanish Texas. I just haven't gotten around to posting here about it.
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