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I started eating at a calorie deficit in late January. It am a 56 y/o female. I started at about 1500 calories and just dropped calories to about 1200 because I've stopped/slowed weight loss way down recently. I track EVERYTHING in MFP. I've lost about 23-24 lbs.

I have found that meal prepping helps me A LOT. I have teenaged boys an a husband who eat much more hearty meals than I do. I could eat what I make them but then the volume of food I eat would be very unsatisfying, so it's good to have some alternatives in the fridge.

My "new" macro goals at 1,200 calories are 100 g carb, 110 g protein, and 40 g fat. I have been aiming for for 300-400 calories per meal to allow for a midafternoon snack (my most likely time to go off the rails) and/or "phantom" calories.

Do you have any favorite meal prep recipes or hacks to help you stay on track? I have a lot, but always looking for more. And with only 1200 calories daily, I might need to get creative. (My goal is 1,200 but I should still be okay at 1300; I've used 1200 as my daily goal because it will help offset days when I don't make the best decisions.)

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I won't ask too many details… but is 1200 calories self directed or are you working with a dietician?
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I'm "old", mostly sedentary, and female. While I am not working with a dietician, I have done my research. Sadly, based on my age, gender, and activity level, I simply don't need many more calories. (My doctor declined to refer me to a dietician at my last check up a couple of months ago because I was successfully losing weight without one.) I have Hashimoto's but my thyroid has been functioning normally. I will be seeing my endocrinologist soon to see if that has changed. I plan to ask him about a referral to a dietician.

1300 is the actual goal but I tend to go over my "on paper goal" so I'm aiming for 1200 "on paper" to account for that. (I often forget to track calories for milk in coffee, or have a couple of bites of something that is just too difficult to track; I'll probably actually be getting closer to 1300 calories.)
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It is very hard to stick to a 1300 calorie diet long term for most people. I would be trying to figure out a way to get you calories out number up so you can continue to lose fat in more calories. The best things for me are to lift weights regularly with a focus on building strength (compound lifts, rest between sets, and training close to failure). I take creatine which helps me get better workouts. You also need to move a lot so track your steps and try to get more over time. A sedentary lifestyle is not good for your health or weight loss goals. You are still young enough to put on muscle and build up stamina.
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First, congratulations on the weight loss thus far. I echo what others have said - 1,200 calories is really low and you're probably better off upping your activity level than further reducing your calories.

Have you used a TDEE calculator to get an estimate of your baseline energy expenditure? That can help you better dial in what a reasonable intake for weight loss might be. Also, depending on your situation, it may be worth keeping your weight constant for a month or three before reengaging on weight loss. Eating at a deficit can be draining mentally as well as physically.
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The biggest thing I think would move the needle for you is to increase your activity level. It's obviously no secret that burning more calories through activities will allow you to lose more weight. Also, if you can work in any kind of resistance training and maintain/build muscle, your body will then burn more calories on it's own.

Aside from your calories and macros... are you on hormone replacement therapy? I'm sure, at your age, you're monitoring and treating your hormones, but if you aren't working to optimize them then that could play a big part in your overall health and your ability to build muscle (and consequently lose weight). Believe it or not, even testosterone is important for women as they age, in addition to estrogen and progesterone.
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I was just going to say maybe drop your PC physician a note on your plan and why. They might refer you to a dietician with new information. Seems a low calorie level to meet all nutrient levels your body really needs but I'm also not a doctor.
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Echoing what other posters have said above, its not your caloric intake that you need to be adjusting at this point because 1,200 is super low. You are seeing a decline in the weight loss results because your body and metabolism have adjusted. Have you tried taking a week break from that diet? I'm not talking about doubling your caloric intake, just a week break where you eat 1,500-1,800 "healthy" calories. Then drop back down to 1,200-1,300. And you really need to incorporate exercise at this point to get to your goal. Do you have access to a treadmill? Just walking at a medium incline for one hour will burn 500 calories and the fat that you're looking to burn.
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I think everyone underestimates what simply walking can do especially those of us in our 50s (make me cringe to say that). Add some short walks after meals and/or longer walks into your routine.

Will leave the caloric needs to everyone else who has already posted.
combat wombat™
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First, thank you for the feedback.

I was finding 1500ish cal a day do-able and was losing weight that way. I went back and looked at my log and, surprise!, I still lost 3 pounds since June 9 (in the last three weeks). I didn't realize that. I guess I was just seeing a whole lot more ups and downs on the scale recently and the higher numbers stuck with me?

I did 1300 yesterday and it was a bit of a challenge. Just the milk my coffees was 120 cal!

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You can probably up your protein and still keep losing, assuming it's lean protein. The thermic effect of protein (ie, the amount of energy it takes for your body to break it down) is higher for protein. The actual calories available for your body to use is only about 70% (vs 90%+ for carbs and fats).

Stick to chicken/turkey breast, lean fish/seafood, and lean beef (96%/4%).

The benefit to increasing protein is it will make you feel full/more satisfied.

If you are truly sedentary, you really don't need many carbs. 100 g is probably a good target if you aren't active. The more you exercise, you can increase your carb intake so your body can use that energy for fuel when you workout.

When I was actively tracking there were also "free foods", meaning foods I could consume and not have to track because the calories are so low. This would includes things like cauliflower, broccoli, Brussel sprouts, cucumbers, cabbage, etc. I had a lot of success with bulking my lean protein (ie, lean ground beef or chicken) with cauliflower rice. Add what ever seasonings you prefer and make a bowl.

I feel your struggle, though. I'm almost 48, lift heavy multiple days a week, and still have to limit my calories to about 1500-1600 to truly be in a calorie deficit and lose fat. With my activity level, after a few days of that, I'm hungry!

For an average sized woman (5'5", 140-ish lbs), that's the reality if you want to stay lean. Most online estimators will over-estimate your maintenance calories. I can tell you that after 5 years of heavy lifting, eating high protein, and tracking macros.

Without knowing what type of body composition you are aiming for, it's hard to know where you might realistically end up in terms of calories.

However, with limited physical activity, I would worry about significant muscle loss. Muscle is critical at this age. We need it to maintain our bone health/bone density and to keep us from becoming frail. And, as others have pointed out, if you can build up your muscles, you will "earn" more calories.

When you're in a calorie deficit, your body does not preferentially burn fat. It just looks for any available energy, which can be fat or muscle, usually utilizing each at about an equal rate, unless you actively try to maintain your muscle. The way you prevent muscle loss is to use them, ie, weight train.

If you can manage even just a couple days a week of weight training, it would be incredibly beneficial for the long term.
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FWIW I have an amazing friend who's a RD and works specifically with patients with thyroid concerns.

Here's her info: https://chewsfoodwisely.com/
combat wombat™
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Thanks!
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YouBet said:

I think everyone underestimates what simply walking can do especially those of us in our 50s (make me cringe to say that). Add some short walks after meals and/or longer walks into your routine.

Will leave the caloric needs to everyone else who has already posted.

This is absolutely correct. Especially walking after a meal can help improve digestion and lower glucose spikes. That will result in less weight gain. Restricting your calories is potentially a miserable experience long-term. You can do it short term, but it's really tough to do long-term. In addition to what people here are saying, try to find something active that you enjoy. If you enjoy it, you will continue to do it. All the best.
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I think this would be slightly above the 11 cal per gram of protein you're trying to stay within but I've been on a 1/4 pound burger + egg kick. I'll usually do a pound of bison and pound of lean ground beef and make 8 burgers. I usually add 2 eggs and a slice of cheese and it's around 35g of protein. Cheese is probably a no go for you though.
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I don't care for cheese on my burgers, so… jot a loss!

In the same vein, I have a couple of burger-ish options that work. I love fast food breakfast and one of my favorites is Chick-fil-A Egg White Grill. It's chicken breast, egg white, and cheese on an English muffin. 300 calories and 27g protein.

If my family wants Whataburger, I get a grilled chicken sandwich, switch the bun out for a small 4" bun (it's just a regular bun, not the potato bun it comes on), and hold the sauce. It's actually pretty good and only 300 calories and 29g protein. I do this for any meal.

But at some point I'm going to get a Shake Shack burger! With fries.
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First off, losing 24 lbs is amazing progress! Huge congrats!

Meal prepping away from family meals is so smart when you're managing lower calories.

My favorite hack for staying full around 12001300 is making huge batches of turkey and cabbage stir-fries or roasted cauliflower-heavy bowls.

One thing that helped me when 1200 felt a little too tight was referencing this structured meal plan https://betterme.world/articles/1350-calorie-meal-plan/ just to get fresh ideas for filling, high-protein recipes. Egg white egg bites, big egg-roll-in-a-bowl preps, and Greek yogurt bowls with berries are my personal lifesavers for that afternoon snack craving.

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Come on over to the peptide thread. We'll get you squared away!

Congrats on your success!
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Is there a way you could envision starting some resistance training? Maybe finding a gym with some classes to get you going?

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I've joined a gym and am exploring some of the exercise classes. When it cools down a little I'll get some more walking in. I have started some strength training.

Weight loss has stalled, but I have not gained weight and I have been a bit lax about my disciple. I'll just keep plugging away. I am going to have to get motivated again, eventually, because I want to lose another 20 pounds.

And don't think for one minute I haven't considered medically assisted weight loss.
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Awesome job on the strength training. If you can get a Dexa Scan and see where your muscle and body fat is that is a great step.

The scale can be deceiving. And building and maintaining muscle should be priority number 1. You can eat more will feel better and the fat loss can happen concurrently.

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combat wombat said:

I've joined a gym and am exploring some of the exercise classes. When it cools down a little I'll get some more walking in. I have started some strength training.

Weight loss has stalled, but I have not gained weight and I have been a bit lax about my disciple. I'll just keep plugging away. I am going to have to get motivated again, eventually, because I want to lose another 20 pounds.

And don't think for one minute I haven't considered medically assisted weight loss.


If you started strength training, then the sudden stalling of your weight loss could very well be due to replacing your fat with muscle now. You also need to understand that you're metabolism is going to adjust to your activity level and your body composition. So you'll need to occasionally drop your calorie intake further.

I'm not sure that the money for a dexa scan is going to tell you anything that'll really be helpful. If you're looking to get super precise on your body composition, or just really want to know, then perhaps. But there's also a lot of anecdotal evidence that dexa scans aren't exactly super accurate. Anyway, it's not like you can spot reduce fat. So if you're just focused on overall losing weight and getting healthy just keep doing what you've done so far with your diet and exercise. Weight loss is not a linear decline, it's going to happen in waves.
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Depending on how much $$ you have to blow Tonal may be ideal for your situation. You could work on functional strength and pilates and your teens could work on strength building. It is expensive but it is like a whole gym + trainer in a small space. The $60/month membership is for the whole family so for your current situation it seems like it may be worth looking into unless you just enjoy the social aspect of a gym.

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Dexa scan will give her lean muscle amount which will tell her the minimum amount of protein she needs to eat.

Then she can get another one in 5 months and come back and brag how many lbs of muscle she gained and percentage body fat she lost.

You can't manage what you don't measure.
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Gotcha. And props to anybody who wants to get that precise on their knowledge and tracking. Personally , I think she'll be fine sticking to the basic plan of 0.8-1.0 grams of protein per body weight pound and use one of the basic online calculators to determine her activity level and what her corresponding caloric intake should be so that she's at a slight deficit. But more knowledge never hurts
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The other advantage of a Dexa scan for Women is they will stop looking at the scale. Measuring success based on if the scale number goes up or down is no good and detrimental.

It worked with my wife. She couldn't care less about the number on the scale anymore, now that we do Dexa scans. It's now about coming up with a plan and hitting protein, and lifting a few times per week.

Her weight number might not change much, but then she loses some bodyfat and adds several lbs of muscle, that's crazy good success.

Dexa scan is critical for long term success!
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And a DEXA scan isn't that expensive. I'm getting 2 sessions per quarter for $80 total.
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KidDoc said:

Depending on how much $$ you have to blow Tonal may be ideal for your situation. You could work on functional strength and pilates and your teens could work on strength building. It is expensive but it is like a whole gym + trainer in a small space. The $60/month membership is for the whole family so for your current situation it seems like it may be worth looking into unless you just enjoy the social aspect of a gym.



I use a Tonal and it is a game changer for me. I get to work out barefoot in whatever clothes I am already wearing and even if I only have 15 minutes I can get a workout in. My closest gym is more than 15 minutes of driving round trip. I have lost 54 pounds this year using my Tonal 5 to 6 days per week and put on a ton of muscle in the process. My fat loss is probably closer to 65 pounds.
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Yeah, IMO regular checks on the scale is beneficial just to help confirm you're still on track to reach that goal you've set, but with the non-linear progress of weight loss making sure you also look in the mirror and factor in how your clothes feel on you is crucial to keeping up that positive attitude.
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I started weight training so recently that the stall is NOT increased muscle. But I do understand the concept. Thanks!

I have a programmable scale that measures % muscle, fat, etc. Is that accurate enough to see trends while I am on this journey?
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