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If you saw good results eating most of your carbs in the morning, it was almost certainly because it helped you to eat fewer calories overall. The same goes for the studies which show people can achieve identical results eating most of their carbs directly before bed (if macros are held constant). The number of carbs someone needs is largely dependent on activity level; when they eat them is far less important.

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I'll preface by saying I don't know **** about timing, glycose, burning and building modes, etc... I eat most of my carbs, if not all, post-workout at 6am, and at dinner.

But, for arguements sake, isn't eating all carbs in the AM, and all carbs in the PM before bed pretty much the same thing? You're still going a long spell without carbs which allows your glycose? level to go into burning mode...

Just making a connection from what the previous poster suggested

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I think that's acurate but eating them at night isn't going to serve any purpose (getting your mind and body "awake" so to speak). Taking them in during the morning/lunch helps with providing that energy for work, activities during the day.

Again, it's all about what you are trying to accomplish and when/if you incorporate a workout program affects it as well. My first comment was just a general overview

Isn't it true that carbs help your body to recover, as well? It's why an athlete, or someone that works out intensely can not do a no-carb or extremely low-carb diet.

Eat healthy, get a gym membership and work out at least 3-4 times a week, and long walk or run 3-4 times a week.

I believe that's correct. But again, timing relative to those situations can affect or alter the general rules

I am confident this will not be popular advice. I'm 36 and while Von Miller was dominating the super bowl I was a very similar size as you (6" 246). Today I'm 205.

I lost the same 20lbs 4-5 times but could never stay on top of the diet and exercise thing. I finally decided I'd lose the fat by any means necessary and worry about muscle, staying in shape, etc after that. I did Ideal Protein and didn't exercise much at all. I lost about 5lb muscle and 35lb fat when t was all said and done. A trade off in comfortable with.

I have 2 jobs, 2 young kids and don't have time to spend at the gym, reading books about macro nutrients, etc. however, I am no longer a fatass and I have come a long way in terms of mastering discipline and learning about portion control now that I'm off of the 'diet.'

Like I said before, I'm sure this isn't the popular way to lose weight on the H&F board but if nothing else, I look better, feel better, am more disciplined and the battle to build muscle and maintain a genera weight suits me a whole lot better than the battle of losing 35lbs of fat.

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Carbs are faster digesting and thus energy is available to you quicker. If you don't need that energy, your body turns it into fat. So if you eat carbs at night, you have energy available your body doesn't need since you are sleeping. Thus the recommendation of carbs in the morning or perhaps before you train.

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Where did you read that garbage?

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I am confident this will not be popular advice. I'm 36 and while Von Miller was dominating the super bowl I was a very similar size as you (6" 246). Today I'm 205.

I lost the same 20lbs 4-5 times but could never stay on top of the diet and exercise thing. I finally decided I'd lose the fat by any means necessary and worry about muscle, staying in shape, etc after that. I did Ideal Protein and didn't exercise much at all. I lost about 5lb muscle and 35lb fat when t was all said and done. A trade off in comfortable with.

I have 2 jobs, 2 young kids and don't have time to spend at the gym, reading books about macro nutrients, etc. however, I am no longer a fatass and I have come a long way in terms of mastering discipline and learning about portion control now that I'm off of the 'diet.'

Like I said before, I'm sure this isn't the popular way to lose weight on the H&F board but if nothing else, I look better, feel better, am more disciplined and the battle to build muscle and maintain a genera weight suits me a whole lot better than the battle of losing 35lbs of fat.

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The most successful way to lose weight and keep it off, is to find a diet and kind of exercise you enjoy doing. That is something you are more likely to continue doing in the future and keeping the weight off, not some fad/crash diet. Glad it worked for you, and hope you do find some exercise and diet routine that you like, or it's very likely you will put that weight right back on.

I'm not reading through all of the posts on here, but wanted to post in case you are still following this and looking for information.

- My Fitness Pal is an excellent resource and gets easier the more you use it.
- Find the workout/cardio you enjoy doing (makes it easier to stay motivated) - running, cycling, swimming, HIIT or a combination of those is a great place to start.
- EAT CLEAN. Look at the ingredients and if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it. Buy fresh vegetables, wild fish, and a lot of chicken breast. (A staple meal for me is 1 cup of fresh baby spinach, 7 ounces of grilled chicken breast, and a few tablespoons of some quality hot sauce all mixed together in a bowl).
- Meal prep. Cook all of your meat (except the fish) on one day for the week. Makes it much easier to stay on track and eat healthy on days when you are too tired to cook.
- Aim for 1 gallon of water a day, but hit at least 80 ounces.
- Reward yourself with one cheat meal a week (do not go crazy though - we do pizza every Friday night but we buy it from a health food store (Earth Fare) that uses only organic/fresh toppings.

The goal is a lifestyle change you can maintain, not just a short term diet.

Good luck sir. I'm 6'3 190 and still only show maybe a 2 or 4 pack at best at 36 YOA.


In high school, I was 6'1" 230 pounds and I think I am still paying for that. Zero muscle, all fat.

I would love suggestions as well.

Everything has mostly been said, the only thing i will add is to make sure your recover after working out or during the day includes Aminos. Very important.

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Everything has mostly been said, the only thing i will add is to make sure your recover after working out or during the day includes Aminos. Very important.

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So, standard protein from any protein source. Got it.

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eat every 3-4 hours

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2005 called. It wants its nutrition advice back.

5'11" 155 lbs. Two years ago I was 197. What happened?

My doctor told me I had high blood pressure and would likely be diabetic in a few years. What did I do?

1. Added HIIT to my weight training and cardio routines. Swallowed my pride, talked to the trainers at Golds, got some ideas and a path to follow using all three.

2. Dialed back bread, pasta, potatoes, rice by 90%. Corn tortillas one of the rare indulgences. Cut BACK but did not eliminate alcohol. Drastically cut back beer and cocktails, shifted more to wine.

So how do I eat now? Breakfast typically two eggs scrambled with LOTS of veggies (no potatoes), or a green smoothie (greens, flax milk, protein powder, a few cranberries). Lunch and dinner, some version of veggies + protein and never large portions. Less food at dinner than at lunch. Occasional cheat days, but more like once a month than every week. I don't "diet," but rather changed the way I eat in a way I enjoy and don't feel like I'm suffering or denying myself.

3. I take supplements, but that may or may not be relevant.

In addition to losing 42 lbs, I had 6 blood tests in this two year period. Blood sugar, cholesterol, kidney function, and others all went from "Ok" or "borderline" to "optimal." Blood pressure went from 160s/80s to currently running 112/70.

Oh, and the abs re-appeared!

Yes its possible, and I didn't think it was. Play the long game as others have said. Enjoy the progress as you see it develop and feel proud of yourself!

2 months in! How's it coming along?

The only conclusive thing I learned in this thread is that nobody really knows anything, haha. At least half of you are wrong... I just don't know which half... or maybe both halves are wrong. Of course, go to the bookstore or search online and you get the same thing... the experts can't even agree. Who knows?!

My goal is a well-balanced diet and varied, regular exercise. It has served me well, but I am definitely no expert!

The only thing that has ever been true and remained true is burn more than you intake.

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If your body is super sensitive to carbs and eating a 1/4 cup of rice spikes your insulin levels (which happen to stay elevated in your system for a long period of time) then you aren't burning fat at any point in the day if you consume said carbs throughout the day.

It's why Atkins/south beach diet actually works (ketosis)....eat all the fats and proteins you want but no carbs and you will lose weight. People are def not on a calorie deficit in that program.

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Uhh, what? I don't pretend to be an expert, but how the hell is this supposed to work?

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The only conclusive thing I learned in this thread is that nobody really knows anything, haha. At least half of you are wrong... I just don't know which half... or maybe both halves are wrong. Of course, go to the bookstore or search online and you get the same thing... the experts can't even agree. Who knows?!

My goal is a well-balanced diet and varied, regular exercise. It has served me well, but I am definitely no expert!

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That's the way it goes... One thing can work great for one person, and do nothing for another.... It's trial and error. Find a routine that works for you for losing weight/building muscle and stick to it.

It works short term because carbs fuel your body. When you aren't getting any, your fat becomes your energy source.