Forecast for Best 2027 1/2 Ton?

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12:54p, 9/11/26
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I just passed 217K on my 2014 3.5L ecoboost and expect to drive it another 25K but I know that mileage isn't typical. I'll be retiring in 2027 and looking to travel more including towing a small bumper-pull trailer (20-22 ft range).

I'll probably go with another F150, but considering the Coyote V8 based on what I've read about durability. I'm open to other options though. I'd like to get the best balance of durability, mileage (20+ Hwy mpg), handling, and creature comforts. I don't think I'll be towing anything so big to justify the cost and lower mileage for a heavy duty model. 4x4 is desirable.

I know there are a lot of posters on this forum that watch the truck market more than I do, so I figured I'd get some good input. I also think the Ford - Chevy - Ram - Toyota debate may be fun to watch. However, from what I've read and know from friends' anecdotes, I'm not sure a Ram or Toyota are in my future due to lower average mpg.
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Milwaukees Best Light
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12:57p, 9/11/26
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Ram Rev should be out by then.
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In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 7:34p, 9/14/26
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Given what we've seen on recall rates for first generation tech in many recent trucks, my preference is to go with a drive train that has proven longevity.
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In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 9:42a, 9/15/26
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Milwaukees Best Light said:
Ram Rev should be out by then.

Do you know much about the Rev?

I'm curious about the charging. I know it's basically an engine/generator, that charges the battery...but if I'm on a road trip, will I have to stop and re-charge at an electrical station, or can I just fill up with gas and go?

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In reply to tamc91 • 11:39a, 9/15/26
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tamc91 said:
I just passed 217K on my 2014 3.5L ecoboost and expect to drive it another 25K but I know that mileage isn't typical. I'll be retiring in 2027 and looking to travel more including towing a small bumper-pull trailer (20-22 ft range).

I'll probably go with another F150, but considering the Coyote V8 based on what I've read about durability. I'm open to other options though. I'd like to get the best balance of durability, mileage (20+ Hwy mpg), handling, and creature comforts. I don't think I'll be towing anything so big to justify the cost and lower mileage for a heavy duty model. 4x4 is desirable.

I know there are a lot of posters on this forum that watch the truck market more than I do, so I figured I'd get some good input. I also think the Ford - Chevy - Ram - Toyota debate may be fun to watch. However, from what I've read and know from friends' anecdotes, I'm not sure a Ram or Toyota are in my future due to lower average mpg.

You've got 217K on your 2014 3.5L, but are worried about durability so looking at the 5.0?
Did you have major problems with your 2014 or do we just have a different understanding of "durability"?

I've had nearly 500k miles on (4) 3.5's w/o even a check engine light coming on. I was fortunate that 3 of them were 2019 and older and never had the cam phaser issue. The current - a '23 PB - is closing on 100k with no issues.

I don't know how much more durability I need. I understand others have not been as fortunate, but I can only go by my experience.
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 1:19p, 9/15/26
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AgGrad99 said:
Milwaukees Best Light said:
Ram Rev should be out by then.

Do you know much about the Rev?

I'm curious about the charging. I know it's basically an engine/generator, that charges the battery...but if I'm on a road trip, will I have to stop and re-charge at an electrical station, or can I just fill up with gas and go?


Only what I have read. I think you should be good to throw some petrol in and roll.

I am really intrigued by this. Not saying I am going to be the first to buy one, but I have about 20k left before I will seriously start looking for a new truck. Hopefully that will be enough time for some real world experiences on this truck. I like the idea of electric around town, but ability to go on a road trip. I also like that this idea is not new. Locomotives have used this for many years. Not saying stellantis is capable of copying the idea well, but I like their chances better than some wildly new tech.
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In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 2:17p, 9/15/26
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Im in the same boat as you.

As long as the cost isn't crazy, and the first gen's dont have issues...I'm intrigued.
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3:00p, 9/15/26
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I am curious about a miles per gallon with the generator. I haven't seen that spelled out very well. Only projected range after exhausting the batteries. Is the generator one speed? Or does it increase rpms when under a load, like a normal generator? If it is one speed, will it be enough to charge the battery while driving? Or just enough to drive under load? Probably going to have to wait a while to get answers to my questions.
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In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 8:56p, 9/15/26
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Release has been pushed to April 2027 per Autoblog article posted couple days ago
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10:23p, 9/15/26
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Just my experience so far with a 2026 f-150 with the 5.0 I am getting 15-16 mpg. It's a tremor so no air dam on the front and 3.73 axle gearing. I was hoping to get closer to 20 mpg coming from my tundra being 16-17mpg but not so much.

The v-8 is addicting to listen to so that doesn't help. If you want good mileage with an f-150 I would go with the 3.0 ecoboost that is coming with 2027's.
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In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 2:50a, 9/16/26
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Milwaukees Best Light said:
I am curious about a miles per gallon with the generator. I haven't seen that spelled out very well. Only projected range after exhausting the batteries. Is the generator one speed? Or does it increase rpms when under a load, like a normal generator? If it is one speed, will it be enough to charge the battery while driving? Or just enough to drive under load? Probably going to have to wait a while to get answers to my questions.


A typical generator does not change engine speed under load. In AC applications motor speed affects both frequency and voltage and in DC the voltage. This would be the same, the engine would be designed to run at an efficient rpm with an output greater than the average horsepower required for the vehicle. The power required for motion gets sent to the electric motor and the balance is sent to battery. Then under lighter loads the engine shuts off entirely and power is drawn from the battery.

This is how the Chevy Volt worked and some BMW hybrids. Mechanically a much simpler system than a mechanical drivetrain for gas and electric power.
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In reply to tamc91 • 4:24a, 9/16/26
tamc91 said:
I just passed 217K on my 2014 3.5L ecoboost and expect to drive it another 25K but I know that mileage isn't typical. I'll be retiring in 2027 and looking to travel more including towing a small bumper-pull trailer (20-22 ft range).

I'll probably go with another F150, but considering the Coyote V8 based on what I've read about durability. I'm open to other options though. I'd like to get the best balance of durability, mileage (20+ Hwy mpg), handling, and creature comforts. I don't think I'll be towing anything so big to justify the cost and lower mileage for a heavy duty model. 4x4 is desirable.

I know there are a lot of posters on this forum that watch the truck market more than I do, so I figured I'd get some good input. I also think the Ford - Chevy - Ram - Toyota debate may be fun to watch. However, from what I've read and know from friends' anecdotes, I'm not sure a Ram or Toyota are in my future due to lower average mpg.

Your first and most important step is to find the truck that has an engine platform that isn't eating main bearings or connecting rod bearings or anything of similar criticality. Also throw in the task of finding which engine is paired with the least ****ty transmission or transmission tuning.

The automotive market in the past 5 years has been a dumpster fire floating on an overflowing septic tank. And for this you get to pay substantially more than you ever imagined.

Ford 3.5 and 5.0 have consistently NOT had engine bearing problems. There is a good start.
Ram is also another contender for the "least ****ty powertrain".

GM is changing to a whiole new engine line up in 2027. The 6.2 L87 debacle will cost them customers and possibly additional fedgov action because their replacement engines are still failing. You'd be rolling the dice big time on a new GM v8.

Toyota is a non starter. Their V35A is now not just spinning the number 1 main, they are now experiencing #3 and #4 main bearing failures. Replacement engines for the current recall are also experiencing failures.

I'm a huge Toyota nerd. I wouldn't even consider the Tundra. It is a non starter. The V35A will go down in history as Toyota's worst engine.

I'm planning on adding to family fleet in next 12-14 months and pretty much only considering an ecoboost 3.5.
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In reply to 1agswitchin4lanes • 7:34p, 9/20/26
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I thought you might have some thoughts, but after the number of Ags you've helped put in Fords over the years, I'm surprised it was a GM update.

I'm guessing you're a closer industry watcher as most here. If you needed to by a new 1/2 ton 44 next year what would your top 2 or 3 be?
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In reply to tamc91 • 10:39p, 9/20/26
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tamc91 said:
I thought you might have some thoughts, but after the number of Ags you've helped put in Fords over the years, I'm surprised it was a GM update.

I'm guessing you're a closer industry watcher as most here. If you needed to by a new 1/2 ton 44 next year what would your top 2 or 3 be?


I think Ford really has their powertrains "right" at this point. The 3.0L entry level should be a solid pick. All the other engines are great. Ford has the most practical interior to me and most user friendly for both work and luxury.

The latest GM trucks before this redesign seem to be fairly solid, though long in the tooth. This shows inside and out. The 5.3 had a decent reputation but didn't seem to take neglect or abuse very well. I think if you bought one, and took care of it like most the AB does, you'd be fine. I'd veer away from the 6.2. The 2.7 seems ok but the NVH is a no for me. The new engines (just more stroke really) look promising but still have DFM and GM said in an interview that they tested it like the last version. Bleh. Interesting the new engines have PFDI tech like Ford does. And this technology, GM claims is why the dipstick had to be removed. They claim it's for improved emissions and efficiency. I think the port injection is for the carbon buildup. Time will tell.

I had a ram rental a while back when I traveled and I loved the inline 6 smoothness but I'm still terrified of what happens to them as age and miles creep. I had a pretty low end model and the new infotainment is much worse than the previous uconnect.


Tundra has a lot to overcome with the engine issues. They drive decent and the interior is there, but the should have continued to offer the 5.7 along side the TTV6.


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12:21p, 9/21/26
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Someone could print money if they made a Zf 8hp swap expeditions and f150s.
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In reply to TSJ • 1:15p, 9/21/26
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TSJ said:
Someone could print money if they made a Zf 8hp swap expeditions and f150s.


I've long said a super wagoneer on the ram 2500 chassis with Cummins is a money printer. Modern excursion.
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1:42p, 9/21/26
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If I "had" to buy a 2027 I'd get a 5.0 Ford F-150 with the longest extended warranty offered.

Otherwise I'd buy a 5.7 Tundra with the lowest miles I can find/afford which I will be doing by the EOY

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In reply to TSW2012 • 6:41p, 9/21/26
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TSW2012 said:
I've long said a super wagoneer on the ram 2500 chassis with Cummins is a money printer. Modern excursion.


That sounds awesome!
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