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she claimed the G70 was nothing but a Camry.

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Smart woman, but it's actually a Kia stinger
"Samsonite, I was way off!"

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Hopefully the accelerator on the S doesn't hurt your leg

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Apparently context hurts your brain far worse

FIDO*98* said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Hopefully the accelerator on the S doesn't hurt your leg

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Apparently context hurts your brain far worse

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These are your own words. There is no context that fixes that level of crying.

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gas pedal is heavy and fatiguing

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I have no doubt your 60-70k Type S was nicer inside than the typical 40k Model 3. Same with the Model S that was like a 100k car new.

But glad you enjoy your Tesla. They are a lot of fun.

The gas pedal is heavy. The fatiguing meant having to think about it all the time. You lift your foot off the pedal regularly in normal driving, not just braking. It was a poor choice of word. Annoying would have been more appropriate. Hope that clarifies it for you.

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We can argue the economics ad nauseum but the bottom line is that the buying power of the typical customer has not kept up with the surge in vehicle prices.

Of course we could all take out 8 year notes on cars... and bury our heads in the sand I guess. But my point, which you confirmed in a way is that the buy in for a true sport sedan is now 60k-70k on the low end.

Also, yes a V8 and loud noises are important

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Agreed, my automotive-brother. Cars are #$% too expensive. We should stop buying them

I was happy when I paid msrp for my Golf R a couple of years ago...

The last year has been the first time in my adult life that I haven't owned a manual transmission sports car as a 3rd car for fun because the prices just got so ridiculous on all cars.

I've owned
2 Basic GT 5.0 Mustangs when I first got a job out of college to play with and mod
2016 SS Sedan
2013 Boss 302 Mustang
2019 Bullitt Mustang
2020 GT 350 Heritage
2018 PP2 GT Mustang
2022 Mach 1 Mustang

Obviously I love to bounce around from car to car, and I had intended to do it again when I sold the Mach, but I just haven't been able to pull the trigger because the prices are just so loony now on the kind of cars I'm looking at. I wanted to move more into another sport sedan since I was missing the SS, but once I spec things out to my liking, I'm in the 80K range. I'm also resigned to the fact that the manual transmission days are coming to an end soon.

I loved that 19 Bullitt when it came out and am pretty amazed how well it has held its value.