Shenanigans at a Keating dealership

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Martin Q. Blank
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I bet if you look at the video's meta-data, it wasn't even taken the same day...
Yes, please extract the meta data and report back.
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Martin Q. Blank said:

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I bet if you look at the video's meta-data, it wasn't even taken the same day...
Yes, please extract the meta data and report back.
They run the videos through an app when they are sent, so downloading the video essentially resets it as if it's a new video.
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Appropriate Bee post just now:

https://instagr.am/p/DG35E7Sz5A-
Mookie
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Post the pic with a 1 star google review and ask if any other customers have gotten the same pic.
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Sounds like a Flatout stealership.
GrandStand93
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Really wish some of you would have more courage and post your positive experiences with being scammed.
maroon barchetta
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Positive experiences

Scammed
GrandStand93
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Sarcasm
maroon barchetta
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I missed it
txags92
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BenTheGoodAg said:

Just to echo Complete Idiot - that's a crime, right?

But then to add to it, they sent you the video, which could be incriminating evidence. That's just crazy, right?

I bet if you look at the video's meta-data, it wasn't even taken the same day...
Sounds like it meets all the elements of wire fraud to me:

Wire Fraud Laws | Criminal Law Center | Justia

If they just walk up in the lobby and tell you about it, it is one thing, but when they send you fraudulent information over the internet or via text as part of the scheme, it makes it wire fraud.
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txags92 said:

BenTheGoodAg said:

Just to echo Complete Idiot - that's a crime, right?

But then to add to it, they sent you the video, which could be incriminating evidence. That's just crazy, right?

I bet if you look at the video's meta-data, it wasn't even taken the same day...
Sounds like it meets all the elements of wire fraud to me:

Wire Fraud Laws | Criminal Law Center | Justia

If they just walk up in the lobby and tell you about it, it is one thing, but when they send you fraudulent information over the internet or via text as part of the scheme, it makes it wire fraud.
So what would I do, report it to Ken Paxton's office?
txags92
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Ryan the Temp said:

txags92 said:

BenTheGoodAg said:

Just to echo Complete Idiot - that's a crime, right?

But then to add to it, they sent you the video, which could be incriminating evidence. That's just crazy, right?

I bet if you look at the video's meta-data, it wasn't even taken the same day...
Sounds like it meets all the elements of wire fraud to me:

Wire Fraud Laws | Criminal Law Center | Justia

If they just walk up in the lobby and tell you about it, it is one thing, but when they send you fraudulent information over the internet or via text as part of the scheme, it makes it wire fraud.
So what would I do, report it to Ken Paxton's office?
Contact your local DA…or maybe a citizen fraud dept if Paxton's office has something like that. Or email Ch2 and see if they want to go to the DA about it as part of a story.
maroon barchetta
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Call Dolcefino!
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Either straight fraud or an inexcusable level of sloppiness (ie may have intended this for another customer). Either way, horrendous.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Either straight fraud or an inexcusable level of sloppiness (ie may have intended this for another customer). Either way, horrendous.


It's Keating.

We know which one it is.
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It's pretty easy to get local news involved. Years ago I had one of the stations out at my house because my HOA was giving me grief about a swing in the front yard. There happened to be a board meeting that night so the news crew went to it. It was hilarious
Sea Speed
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I'm sure the HOA really loved you after that one.
coolerguy12
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Made them so mad they took the time and effort to update the deed restrictions to specifically not allows swings in trees. At that point I told them mine was grandfathered in and they had no choice but to leave me alone. Left it up for 4 years till we moved.
'03ag
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Look at you guys out here trying to ruin the forum.
justnobody79
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coolerguy12 said:

It's pretty easy to get local news involved. Years ago I had one of the stations out at my house because my HOA was giving me grief about a swing in the front yard. There happened to be a board meeting that night so the news crew went to it. It was hilarious
I like the thought of getting the local news to go after them, but if the dealerships buy ads from the local news then fat chance of it ever happening
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'03ag said:

Look at you guys out here trying to ruin the forum.
Found the Keating manager...
maroon barchetta
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'03ag said:

Look at you guys out here trying to ruin the forum.


I wonder what the class year is for a poster here with a high end car collection?
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Ryan the Temp said:

Ag for Life said:

Probably the same video they send 5 times a day and if a couple fall for it, cha ching! Then he can enter an additional race somewhere after they sell an additional 100 sets of tires.

This is a similar scam to when they pull the dirtiest cabin air filter or air filter you've ever seen out from their desk drawer claiming it's out of your vehicle. They then can then charge to change a $15 cabin air filter for $100+
Just looked at the video again and compared it to my tire.

100% NOT my tire.
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I think I may go look at a truck at a keating dealership (Boerne Dodge). Truck is optioned how I like at a good price, what should I be aware of? Before I go I'll call and make it clear that I am not going to pay for any BS dealer add on's. Will they send me a deal sheet before I come in?
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after reading this thread and all the other history about them on this forum, you are still wanting to go buy a car from them?

unreal
1939
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sts7049 said:

after reading this thread and all the other history about them on this forum, you are still wanting to go buy a car from them?

unreal

Looks like all the horror stories are from the service department. All car dealers are crooks, so you might as well go to one with the best prices, plus they happen to have the exact truck that I'm looking for that is pretty hard to find in my area.
Martin Q. Blank
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1939 said:

I think I may go look at a truck at a keating dealership (Boerne Dodge). Truck is optioned how I like at a good price, what should I be aware of? Before I go I'll call and make it clear that I am not going to pay for any BS dealer add on's. Will they send me a deal sheet before I come in?

They will FLATOUT lie until you show up. Either the truck will not actually exist or they will add on the dealer stuff when you sit down to sign.
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I'll put 10:1 odds we get another complaint about Keating from 1939 before we get a rule 1 thread.

But as long as you let them know up front you won't pay for the add ons I'm sure they will treat you fairly.
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Yep, Martin laid out exactly what will happen. That good price is the lure to get you in the door ready to buy a truck. It isn't real, either that truck is long gone or you have many add-ons awaiting.
tk for tu juan
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Have you tried talking to Mark Dodge in Lake Charles? Usually see positive posts about that Dodge dealership
1939
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I haven't because I am planning to do a trade. If I end up selling my current one private party I may check them out.
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sts7049
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not sure why that matters in terms of doing business with a much better dealer?

in any case, good luck to you, and bring your lube. you'll need it
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1939 said:

I haven't because I am planning to do a trade. If I end up selling my current one private party I may check them out.


Just as an FYI I did a trade on my most recent purchase at Mark. I sent them pictures of all sides of my truck, tires, dash while running to show no lights. They gave me more for my trade than local dealer, GMTV, Carvana or Carmax offered. They dropped the new truck in my driveway and picked up the trade at the same time.
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TSW2012 said:

1939 said:

I haven't because I am planning to do a trade. If I end up selling my current one private party I may check them out.


Just as an FYI I did a trade on my most recent purchase at Mark. I sent them pictures of all sides of my truck, tires, dash while running to show no lights. They gave me more for my trade than local dealer, GMTV, Carvana or Carmax offered. They dropped the new truck in my driveway and picked up the trade at the same time.


Yep. Easy to do negotiation on the trade even with an out of town dealer. Plenty of pictures/video + VIN and they'll give you a quote.
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