We found the perfect Cybertruck buyer to let us review it . . .

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'03ag
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This is most fun we've ever had making a video

Bronco6Gen
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Nice review! That was actually a much more realistic and practical review than I've seen before. Hit the nail on the head with the final thoughts, I hate the way it looks, but as a truck guy, you can't help but tip your hat to some of the engineering.

I've been in the "I'm never buying an EV" camp for a long time. However, I recently had solar installed at the house. The solar system is big enough that I don't rely on any power from the grid, and I generate enough to sell back to the grid. I have enough battery storage to easily get me through the night when I'm not generating power. I have a pretty good commute, so I'm spending $300+ on fuel per month, and that's just me, my wife has an equally far commute and spends roughly the same. With the prospect of being able to charge an EV for free (literally), I'd be lying if I said I wasn't allowing the purchase of EV to creep into my head. A truck is preferred for a daily driver, I live about 2 miles down a dirt road and carry a chainsaw in case a tree is down over the road, a rifle, tow straps, things of that nature. I don't think it'll ever be a Cybertruck, but some sort of Plug-in Hybrid like the Ramcharger might be in the future.

I will say, in my situation with having solar and flexible inverters already hooked up, the Cybertruck would have one large advantage going for it. It has a massive battery bank, with an output of 11.5kV (standard). In the event of a long storm where there is no grid power, and the sun isn't shining for several days, it could afford me several more days of backup power. It's ~30% more storage capacity than the Lightning, and if you buy the more expensive Lightning the max output is 9.6kV, or a measly 2.3kV for the standard Lightning. Any plug-in hybrid is comparatively going to have a small battery bank versus a pure EV.
'03ag
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If thinking about home backup the Ramcharger would be pretty killer. 90kWh battery is still really big and the pentastar is supposed to put out 130kW. The two combined would keep you running for a LONG time.
satexas
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I'm not a Tesla hater... at all.... and I'm just going to avoid the whole gas-vs-EV debate in this comment... because it's going to be scary when we start having grid issues - and we will.

But I just can't get past the look and rough edges of the truck. I think it's biggest selling point is simply it's very tech-focused and incredible self-driving and parking... but while this is novel now, it's going to be common everywhere soon.

This truck has basic limitations, and the owner even said something along the lines of 'you just have to change your frame of mind on how you go about your day on this truck' - which is an excuse for 'this vehicle has limitations that you have to get used to under reduced flexibility'.

Just can't get past how ugly it is and how basic/stripped the interior is.

We've gone from one extreme (cars have best technology and features, trucks the worst) to the extreme opposite - now Trucks are making leaps and bounds (all makes, including Ford)...
The Brazos Kid
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Good Stuff!

Just subbed your channel (I'm The Truck Photo Agency)
The Kraken
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Regarding the rear view mirror....

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Trinity Ag
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The Kraken said:

Regarding the rear view mirror....


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love that movie!
ReloadAg
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I actually really like the looks of the Cybertruck but can't justify spending that much on any vehicle. My next vehicle is most likely a used Lightning XLT.
LOYAL AG
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satexas said:

I'm not a Tesla hater... at all.... and I'm just going to avoid the whole gas-vs-EV debate in this comment... because it's going to be scary when we start having grid issues - and we will.

But I just can't get past the look and rough edges of the truck. I think it's biggest selling point is simply it's very tech-focused and incredible self-driving and parking... but while this is novel now, it's going to be common everywhere soon.

This truck has basic limitations, and the owner even said something along the lines of 'you just have to change your frame of mind on how you go about your day on this truck' - which is an excuse for 'this vehicle has limitations that you have to get used to under reduced flexibility'.

Just can't get past how ugly it is and how basic/stripped the interior is.

We've gone from one extreme (cars have best technology and features, trucks the worst) to the extreme opposite - now Trucks are making leaps and bounds (all makes, including Ford)...


I have a Tesla Model Y and I tend to agree on most of what you said. For years the advice when picking up a new Tesla was to check things related to build quality such as gaps between body panels. Only in the past couple of years have repeat Tesla owners said this isn't much of an issue anymore.

One thing I will disagree with is how soon on the self driving will be everywhere. I've had several people in my car that have other new cars who tell me beforehand that they love the "self driving " in their car only to be amazed at what the Tesla will do. It really is a very long ways ahead of everyone else right now, as in years. I recently test drove a Cadillac XT4 and its system was closer to our 2019 Hyundai we recently sold than to my Tesla.

I've said since we got this that a decade from now more cars than not will have self driving because it's just better than driving yourself particularly on long drives. However, I think the only way we get there is if manufacturers license FSD from Tesla. They have years and years of training, north of a billion real world miles, built into this system and nobody else is even trying to close that gap yet. Just don't know how they ge there without buying what Tesla has built.
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satexas
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LOYAL AG said:

satexas said:

I'm not a Tesla hater... at all.... and I'm just going to avoid the whole gas-vs-EV debate in this comment... because it's going to be scary when we start having grid issues - and we will.

But I just can't get past the look and rough edges of the truck. I think it's biggest selling point is simply it's very tech-focused and incredible self-driving and parking... but while this is novel now, it's going to be common everywhere soon.

This truck has basic limitations, and the owner even said something along the lines of 'you just have to change your frame of mind on how you go about your day on this truck' - which is an excuse for 'this vehicle has limitations that you have to get used to under reduced flexibility'.

Just can't get past how ugly it is and how basic/stripped the interior is.

We've gone from one extreme (cars have best technology and features, trucks the worst) to the extreme opposite - now Trucks are making leaps and bounds (all makes, including Ford)...


I have a Tesla Model Y and I tend to agree on most of what you said. For years the advice when picking up a new Tesla was to check things related to build quality such as gaps between body panels. Only in the past couple of years have repeat Tesla owners said this isn't much of an issue anymore.

One thing I will disagree with is how soon on the self driving will be everywhere. I've had several people in my car that have other new cars who tell me beforehand that they love the "self driving " in their car only to be amazed at what the Tesla will do. It really is a very long ways ahead of everyone else right now, as in years. I recently test drove a Cadillac XT4 and its system was closer to our 2019 Hyundai we recently sold than to my Tesla.

I've said since we got this that a decade from now more cars than not will have self driving because it's just better than driving yourself particularly on long drives. However, I think the only way we get there is if manufacturers license FSD from Tesla. They have years and years of training, north of a billion real world miles, built into this system and nobody else is even trying to close that gap yet. Just don't know how they ge there without buying what Tesla has built.

A few things -

1. By 'rough edges' I mean more of the "rough body lines", the way it looks like a geometry diagram. I should have been more clear that I wasn't focusing on the 'hey this can cut me' aspect like they did in the video. I also dislike the "minimalist" interior. I get they're going for simple, easy, durable, cost-saving, let's mount a laptop-screen-on-your-dash-powered-by-mini-pc.... but honestly it's hideous. Functionality has made leaps and bounds, but the style aspect is hideous.

I have a 2021 F150, and I absolutely love it's interior for a truck. My truck is finally like a car in terms of luxury and all the small details. It's awesome. Why would I want to go back to a 1972 Ford F150 with a laptop screen mounted on the dash - and all the dash knobs removed?

2. Ford has been working with Tesla in a partnership for a few years... that's one way 'the spread of technology' will happen.

3. Stuff always spreads out. Things always start somewhere with something, and thanks to capitalism, it spreads and raises the bar of the new normal in things. No chance Telsa keeps this dominance forever... the history of the world proves this as accurate.

Look at things like Tesla/Starlink, NVIDIA and Amazon... it's only a matter of time before the big dogs fall back down to earth at some point... it always happens. (That doesn't mean go away, it just means they fall back down to realistic levels. Microsoft, Facebook, Intel, and even Google are good examples. We thought they were unstoppable in the past.)
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