Son bought a new Ram truck while visiting me in Arizona and vehicles sold here don't have a front plate bracket. We're one plate in the rear only.

Thanks.

Yes, looks like it is still required. I got pulled over by a state trooper a couple months ago and he walked around to the front of my car presumably to look for a plate, which wasn't there. He didn't mention it or ticket me for it.

Yes. I tried to suction cup it to the front windshield and still got pulled over.

I guess he'll need to get a bracket put on when his title arrives and he registers it in Texas.

I didn't put one on my newest vehicle. 8 months and 18k miles with no issues.

Call the sales rep and tell him you need the front bracket. The Ford dealer I bought a truck from in Ohio just put it in the truck when they shipped it.

I believe they have to provide it to you by law if it's required in your state.

bam02 said:

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I didn't put one on my newest vehicle. 8 months and 18k miles with no issues.

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since I'm an awful person with expired registration, it should no surprise that I haven't run a front plate on any of our vehicles for about 15 years. Been pulled over for other stuff several times and it has never been mentioned by the officer.

I will never let them drill holes in my bumper.

They're issuing an Arizona title but maybe they'll do it.

jja79 said:

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They're issuing an Arizona title but maybe they'll do it.

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As in he's going to have Arizona plates while driving in Texas? Then it doesn't matter

If he's going to register in Texas, then he needs it. They issued me an Ohio title, then I had to forfeit that when I registered in Texas. I called my sales rep and asked for the front bracket. They gave it to me without question. Probably the same for your RAM dealer, I'm sure they sell vehicles with out of state registration all the time.

In the Transportation title of the Texas Administrative Code in Section 217.27 states a vehicle "must display two license plates, one at the exterior front and one at the exterior rear of the vehicle that are securely fastened at the exterior front and rear of the vehicle in a horizontal position of not less than 12 inches from the ground, measuring from the bottom . . .

https://texreg.sos.state.tx.us/public/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=R&app=9&p_dir=&p_rloc=&p_tloc=&p_ploc=&pg=1&p_tac=&ti=43&pt=10&ch=217&rl=27

A court may dismiss a charge brought under Subsection (a)(1) if the defendant:

(1) remedies the defect before the defendant's first court appearance; and

(2) pays a reimbursement fee not to exceed $10.

(e) An offense under this section is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/transportation-code/transp-sect-504-943/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

wait, do you live in AZ?

Going on a decade with no front plate.

bam02 said:

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I didn't put one on my newest vehicle. 8 months and 18k miles with no issues.

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I've been pulled over 7-8 times for no front plates. All by state troopers (one may have been a Nueces county sheriff). Never received a ticket though.
Finally gave up and put front plates on all my vehicles.

I've got a 2019 that came from Oklahoma and has never had a front plate. I've been pulled over twice specifically for no front license plate and had a cop mention it one other time. It's almost always gonna be a warning but it can be a good excuse to pull you over, so make sure everything else is legal.

1876er said:

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bam02 said:

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I didn't put one on my newest vehicle. 8 months and 18k miles with no issues.

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I've been pulled over 7-8 times for no front plates. All by state troopers (one may have been a Nueces county sheriff). Never received a ticket though.
Finally gave up and put front plates on all my vehicles.

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Got pulled over by a trooper for my "speed" and no front plate heading to Houston for Christmas.

Strangest encounter. Lasted all of 2 mins. He didn't care that i couldn't find an insurance card and came back with a warning for a 2021 Jeep which is no where close to what I was driving. Plate number was way off.

Yes.

mts6175 said:

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jja79 said:

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They're issuing an Arizona title but maybe they'll do it.

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As in he's going to have Arizona plates while driving in Texas? Then it doesn't matter

If he's going to register in Texas, then he needs it. They issued me an Ohio title, then I had to forfeit that when I registered in Texas. I called my sales rep and asked for the front bracket. They gave it to me without question. Probably the same for your RAM dealer, I'm sure they sell vehicles with out of state registration all the time.

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They issued him a 90 day Arizona tag pending receipt of the title at which time he'll take that to Bexar County and get Texas tags.

Why is it a law?

sts7049 said:

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leave it off. nobody cares

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I got a ticket for not having one in ~2002

txyaloo said:

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JB said:

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Why is it a law?

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So big brother can watch you coming and going.

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License plate readers and cameras tracking you everywhere. No thanks

How are these 21 states able to effectively police by only requiring 1 plate?

Mookie said:

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I keep my front plate screwed to the bracket and leave it in my trunk. If a cop asks about it I tell someone knocked it off in the HEB parking lot and I'm waiting on insurance

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The front plate for my Shelby rides in the truck on a bracket.

They will issue warnings for no front plate until the day a trooper in a bad mood looks up your history of warnings and then you get a ticket.

JB said:

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txyaloo said:

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JB said:

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Why is it a law?

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So big brother can watch you coming and going.

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License plate readers and cameras tracking you everywhere. No thanks

How are these 21 states able to effectively police by only requiring 1 plate?

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When I was in the Army at Fort Knox, KY, the local cops on highway 31W would target out of state soldiers coming back from Louisville who were easy to spot because we had a front license plate.

Mookie said:

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I keep my front plate screwed to the bracket and leave it in my trunk. If a cop asks about it I tell someone knocked it off in the HEB parking lot and I'm waiting on insurance

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Like this idea. Haven't had one in 5 years on mine or my wife's car. No issues yet. Did have an inspection person say something about the wife's car having to have it to pass inspection last year. Said it was in the trunk and she let it pass.

Something Arizona also does that is nice. Instead of going to the DVM for your license you just go to the driver's license store. In and out in 20 minutes with your license and license plate. You can also transfer title there.

You can also buy liquor in the grocery store or pharmacy. The land of the free.

I was stopped twice within 2 weeks in Lavaca County in '22. I bought a new Bronco and put an aftermarket bumper with a winch on the front. There was no bracket for a plate. I was pulled over by a State Trooper and given a warning. I attached the plate with Baling wire and 2 weeks later the wife and I were leaving Hallettsville. We passed a trooper going the other way and he did a U turn and pulled me over although we didn't know why. When he came up to the car he said I pulled you over because you don't have a front license plate. This was a different trooper. I said oh yes I do. He walked around to the front and looked. Came back and said I missed it. Have a nice day.

jja79 said:

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Something Arizona also does that is nice. Instead of going to the DVM for your license you just go to the driver's license store. In and out in 20 minutes with your license and license plate. You can also transfer title there.

You can also buy liquor in the grocery store or pharmacy. The land of the free.

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In California, the secret weapon for the DMV was to join AAA. They could handle all the registration and license plate stuff.

In Nevada, you can do most registration related things at the grocery store.

You left off the main winning thing Arizona has - a diver's license that's valid until you're like 75 or 80 years old.

A girl who reports to me at work, lives in PHX and her driver's license is valid until something like 2053.

sts7049 said:

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leave it off. nobody cares

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Got pulled over by a state trooper for no front plate on my wife's expedition so there's at least one person who cares.