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I had been an F150 guy for a while but switched over to a GMC 1500 AT4 last year with the 3.0 Diesel. This was mainly due to pricing on the Fords and not being able to find the option combos I wanted and I needed to move relatively quickly (my 13 FX4 got totaled when someone burned a stop light).

I have really liked the mini diesel and the AT4 package is great.

To me, the AT4X looks the best and has the most upside. That's the one I'd choose if I were in your shoes. I'd consider the 3.0 diesel as well.

They all have their own issues. Just buy the one that you think looks the best and cross your fingers.

FYI, I am fairly certain that Ford and GM 1/2 tons use the same 10 speed transmission. It was co-developed by the two companies.

The problem with these transmissions is that they try to stay in too high of a gear at lower speeds to meet MPG standards. This causes the transmission to slip more which causes more problems earlier than usual.

I may be wrong in my thinking, but I drive in sport mode/ tow mode depending on truck model which keeps lower gears engaged for longer, hopefully reducing the chances of slippage. I may be doing nothing, but it makes sense in my head.

The MPG loss in sport mode is minimal if you don't drive aggressively.

before you go buy a used truck like those listed go find the volume dealers that handle those trucks and see what price you can get for new. the price variance is not far off now.

Ford - look at granger ford in iowa. offering 4% under invoice on 2024's.

i'm a ford guy - love the exterior of the GMC's but won't own a GMC. been happy with the 10 speed in my 2023.

jakeaggie84 said:

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JuneBug07 said:

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They all have their own issues. Just buy the one that you think looks the best and cross your fingers.

FYI, I am fairly certain that Ford and GM 1/2 tons use the same 10 speed transmission. It was co-developed by the two companies.

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That sucks. Have they fixed there issues on it yet? More dependable?

Also not pictured but considering….tundra. Has the tundra lost some dependability over the years?

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Have you not been paying attention?

Also, the Titan crowd will be along shortly.

jakeaggie84 said:

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I have not been paying attention. That why I brought it to my texags automotive experts.

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Oh in that case, any Keating dealership would love for you to step through their door

jakeaggie84 said:

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I have not been paying attention. That why I brought it to my texags automotive experts.

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Well in that case, the new Tundra is a far cry from the old Tundra. There's currently a recall to replace 102,000 engines and it's so pervasive some dealerships won't even take them as trade-ins. That's the big thing, but there have been quality and reliability complaints across the board ever since the third generation came out.

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The GM has the AFM lifter failures.

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The 3.0 diesel doesn't have AFM lifters

Ram Cummins 4X4 Crew

Skip the new Tundras completely
Best ride is a Ram
Best luxury features are GMC or Ford
Best reliability, warranty and bang for buck is Titan

You have to decide what your priorities are.

Ag for Life said:

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Best Looking:

Sierra > F150 > Ram > Silverado > Tundra > Titan

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I'm at 178k on my 2015 F150. At about 140k the truck just wouldn't switch beyond 2nd gear one day and I thought it was the transmission. Ended up being the spark plugs and leads failing and not generating enough power to get to the next gear. Replaced all of those and updated the software. Has been running great ever since.

Passing it down to my son in a year hopefully.

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Step to a 2500 gas truck, skip the AFM and extra ***** You'll get used to the size.

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Seriously considering this when it's time to replace my Silverado 1500