Got into a wreck with a Houston Police officer last night.

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Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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My son and I were on the 45 feeder last night and traffic was coming to a stop. I braked and right before stopping, we got drilled in the rear end by an HPD officer in his squad car. It sent us flying over the curb into the grassy median in between the feeder and 45. Impact was hard. It destroyed his car, but I was shocked at the lack of damage to my car once I saw it. My car wouldn't start, but I expect that could be due to a variety of reasons. I'm guessing there is more damage underneath. The officer admitted fault and was very apologetic about the whole thing. I was told HPD is self insured. Any idea what to expect there?




UmustBKidding
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Many cars have an inertial switch that disables the fuel pump when hit hard like that. Might be reason your vehicle does not start.
classicdoug
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I hope they take care of you. I have a fleet customer with front and rear cameras in all of their vans. One of them was on beltway 8 last January in stop and go traffic. A Harris county constable never saw the traffic and slammed full speed into the back of my customer. The video from both cameras was pretty shocking. The officer admitted fault, but as of a few months ago they were still having trouble getting paid. Both vehicles were totaled.
Chewy
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Sorry that happened.

I always wondered how durable those front brush guards were. Not much of a match for a full size SUV rear end.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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I figured it was related to that. All of the electronics were going crazy too.
maroon barchetta
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I'm sure he wasn't on his phone or looking at his laptop.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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Thanks. The officer fully admitted fault. Who knows how that could change though. I did have to hit my brakes too. The guy in front of me didn't slow down and swerved into the lane to the right when he saw brakes ahead of him. Hopefully it isn't as bad as the situation you described.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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He admitted he was looking at his laptop. That probably wasn't smart.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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Thanks. The brush guard surprised me as well.
maroon barchetta
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Is that really a brush guard? I thought it was just a sort of bumper with pads to push a disabled vehicle if needed
Furlock Bones
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good luck. my mom was hit by a Stewart and Stevenson truck years ago. driver admitted to the police that his brakes went out, and that he had reported brake problems to the company several times. S&S was self insured. They fought everything. Lawyer had to get involved.
maroon barchetta
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Texas Hammer Time!
Buck Compton
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classicdoug said:

I hope they take care of you. I have a fleet customer with front and rear cameras in all of their vans. One of them was on beltway 8 last January in stop and go traffic. A Harris county constable never saw the traffic and slammed full speed into the back of my customer. The video from both cameras was pretty shocking. The officer admitted fault, but as of a few months ago they were still having trouble getting paid. Both vehicles were totaled.
Firstly, glad OP was okay.

Public entities in Texas are almost all self-insured, including police, fire depts, schools, etc. They pool risk and hire a third party administrator to administer the fund, process claims, hire adjusters, etc… they are typically going to low ball. And they know you have little to no recourse if it's REALLY BAD. I would honestly use my insurance and have them subrogate. It's the easiest way to get paid.

Thankfully neither of these sound like they rise to the level of really bad. I know of a school bus wreck from years and years ago that had multiple fatalities, both in the bus and car they hit. Bus completely ran a red light going 45 and t-boned a car. If that had been an 18-wheeler, an ambulance chaser could have probably secured an 8-figure settlement/judgement from a company. But since it was a public entity, maximum payout was $100,000 per individual and $300,000 per claim. If it was a state angency then 250/500. And these limits aren't exactly pegged to inflation and haven't changed in a long time.

They have sovereign immunity and strict caps on liability under the Texas Tort Claims Act. Same section of the law that prevented Leach from suing Tech. I know the reason for the law but it doesn't seem just or fair in these situations. And if you're driving a car worth over $100,000 or have significant medical payments, good luck. That's when you just have to use your own insurance (and yet another contributing factor to our higher insurance costs).
Rattler12
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If you woulda had a ball and hitch in that receiver you probably wouldn't have had near that much damage to yours .......from recent experience.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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Yeah, I think I'm just going to file on my insurance and let them deal with it.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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I keep the hitch on my truck. I was driving my wife's car.
Burdizzo
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I am shocked at the amount of damage on the Exploder. I understand crush zones, but I would have expect the grill guard to have protected it more.


Not surprised at the officer looking at his laptop. I don't understand how law enforcement agencies expect cops to function with the information overload - radio, phone, laptop. They have all those in order together their jobs done, all while we have laws about "distracted driving"
Picard
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Grill guards are known as "damage multipliers" for a reason

Burdizzo
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Picard said:

Grill guards are known as "damage multipliers" for a reason




Multiplier for whom?
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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I was not shocked by the damage to the Explorer, the impact was the hardest I've ever been involved in by far. I was wearing a hat and my sunglasses were on the bill of my hat. My hat ended up in the middle row and my sunglasses were in the back row. I was more shocked at the lack of damage to the Tahoe. I was expecting to see the same level of damage as the Explorer on the Tahoe.
easttexasaggie04
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Dang glad yall are OK.
Burdizzo
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Right. There term I should have used was "disproportionate". Looks like his vehicle got the worse end of the deal, far worse.
n_touch
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Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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Anyone have a guess on repair costs for the Tahoe? It's bad timing because we were getting ready to trade it in anyway because I'm getting tired of dealing with an electrical gremlin that no one can diagnose. It is a 2015 and has somewhere around 150k miles.
drumboy
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A neighbor I'm friends w/ got into a wreck w/ an HPD officer that was clearly the HPD driver's fault as they turned left from a middle lane on Shepherd straight into their car and it was caught on a dash cam.

He's a personal injury lawyer so very used to the process and knew it was going to be slow due to the way they self-insure. Kinda funny, they were driving a clean former cop car (I think it was a cop's personal car as there is no middle divider, hard plastic backseat, nor lights) that they had gotten for their son recently and the city tried to say it was totaled and offered like $3K. After a good amount of back & forth they paid out maybe double that to fix it. Probably would have been very difficult had he not been a lawyer very familiar w/ the process and w/ a good amount of time to deal with it.
AgOutsideAustin
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Would have had my son record my severe back and neck pain, refuse to get out of my car, ask for an ambulance, ………



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Ribeye-Rare
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I'm curious.

In a situation like that, is the cop who hit you the one who fills out and files the accident report, or do they call in another cop to write it?

Or are 'accident reports' not done when no one goes to the hospital?
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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It happened in The Woodlands, so it was out of his jurisdiction. He did have to call his boss, so his boss and several other HPD squad cars showed up, but the Montgomery County Sheriff's office handled everything. HPD did some investigation on their own because an officer was involved, but they didn't deal with me any other than asking a few questions.
drumboy
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Ribeye-Rare said:

I'm curious.

In a situation like that, is the cop who hit you the one who fills out and files the accident report, or do they call in another cop to write it?

Or are 'accident reports' not done when no one goes to the hospital?
In my friend's incident, the supervisor showed up to do the report.
Ol_Ag_02
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I just want of know did he write himself the ticket or did another office issue him the citation.
maroon barchetta
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

I just want of know did he write himself the ticket or did another office issue him the citation.


Rules for thee, not for me.
Bigballin
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Old man had a city of Houston garbage truck swerve into his lane and crushed his pickup (Chevy 3500 w454 crew cab SRW) into the jersey barrier on 290 roughly 25 years ago. Said a city of Houston case manager came out on the scene and offered him money right there to take care of the problem. Dad just handed it over to insurance instead.

Fast forward less than couple years, he gets a call from a guy out in Odessa asking why he got rid of the pickup. Told him it was totaled in Houston. Guy goes on to say that its on a lot in Odessa with a clean title and it just didn't seem right.
txags92
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Burdizzo said:

I am shocked at the amount of damage on the Exploder. I understand crush zones, but I would have expect the grill guard to have protected it more.


Not surprised at the officer looking at his laptop. I don't understand how law enforcement agencies expect cops to function with the information overload - radio, phone, laptop. They have all those in order together their jobs done, all while we have laws about "distracted driving"
I suspect the level of damage on the cop car reflects hard braking that put the bumper below the level of the OPs bumper, forcing the grill guard and grill to take the brunt of the impact. Missed the crumple zones entirely.
CC09LawAg
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To add to this, there is a notice requirement for damages that you are required to meet. The statute states that you must submit within 6 months but that cities can shorten that length of time by their charter.

I am not sure if Houston is one of those cities that has a less than six month notice period but it wouldn't surprise me if they were. Their city website likely has a way for you to submit a notice of claim form.
Benny the Jet Rodriguez
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Thanks, I filed on my insurance and will let them deal with it. I would've probably done that anyway, but this thread convinced me that was the path of least resistance for me.
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