What is the downside of living in Corpus?

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polksalet12345
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I am doing and online MS through TAMUCC and love it there. I go down every couple of months and love it. I know it is hot and humid in the summer but I dont believe it is any worse than Texarkana.

Seriously, why is this place not paradise?
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I have a job offer in CC and I also would like some info on it. It seems like a cool place to live, but i've heard otherwise...
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I grew up in Corpus. My grandfather, father, mother, stepmother , uncle, my sister and I all went to Miller. My grandfather on my stepmother's side was the first band director at Miller and wrote the school Alma Mater. My folks still live there in the area, although they moved from our family home on the westside about ten years ago and bought some land in Calallen.

My Mom and Dad can go for hours on what they think is wrong with Corpus, although their theories as to who is responsible probably can't be posted on TexAgs.

I only get down to see them twice a year so take what I say with a grain of salt.

The adjectives I think best describe Corpus are sleepy, torpid, slow-moving, manana. Corpus is like the proverbial fat man who is forever going to start his diet and exercise program next week. He could get in shape, get some snap to his life and occasionally he really means to, but always seems to put it off. Corpus has enormous potential, it could be another Miami, but every-time it stirs itself a little and takes a couple of steps it then has to sit down to rest.

I get frustrated everytime I go down there. I see a downtown that is dead, a North Beach area that is still underdeveloped after all these years despite the Lexington and Aquarium. Occasionally the city will do something right, like the new arena and Whataburger Field. But how the hell did Sea World wind up in San Antonio instead of Corpus? What idjit decided to put the greyhound track way out on I-37 near the frickin refineries? Who allowed the Columbus ship replicas to fall apart? Why is that eyesore of a County Courthouse and the old Memorial Coliseum still around?

Maybe it's all the retirees down there. The local realtor Bernie Seal used to rant about the "aginers", the folks who don't want tax money used for anything except roads and police and are "agin" anything else.


Corpus just seems content to be a tourist town but doesn't really seem to want to make too much of an effort at even that.


If you're looking for a place to retire, Corpus is a good spot. The cost of living is low and the pace of life is slow. Even after all the years since I left, you can still get anywhere in town in about 20 minutes.


But if you're a young person living single, it's boring as hell. If you're a young person trying to raise a family, the schools are mediocre.

One of the things that might help Corpus tremendously if A&M-CC, which is really becoming an attractive university (a big change from when I was growing up and it was CCSU; seems like most of the buildings were old Quonset huts back then). A growing, vibrant university down there might do much to invigorate the nightlife and culture in that area.

My Dad says Corpus needs a ramrod, someone with the money and political power to fix things up and get the city moving but that someone doesn't seem to be around. His joke is that instead of billing itself as "The Sparkling City by the Sea" the motto should be "Corpus Christi, The City Most in Need of a Kick in The Ass"

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The adjectives I think best describe Corpus are sleepy, torpid, slow-moving, manana. Corpus is like the proverbial fat man who is forever going to start his diet and exercise program next week. He could get in shape, get some snap to his life and occasionally he really means to, but always seems to put it off. Corpus has enormous potential, it could be another Miami, but every-time it stirs itself a little and takes a couple of steps it then has to sit down to rest.
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Well put.
slappy
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Moe's spot on.
1984Consol
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I remember going to the Memorial Coliseum in high school. Carroll High School held graduating ceremonies there. And when I was in the KEY club (Kiwanis), we had our annual Christmas tree sale there. Sniff...
davisgary 87
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Absolutely nailed it Moe...love the fat guy analogy!
toucan82
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+whatever for moe
RDH80
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Great post, Moe ! I grew up down there, too, and visit once or twice a year. To me, it basically looks the same as it did 30 years ago , just more run down.
Fall92
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What Moe and RD said. Great place to visit, especially since nothing's changed since I was in high school. If you like hunting, fishing, good Tex-Mex, and bad news coverage, C-town is the place for you. It kind of pains me that San Antonio has become this tourist mecca with a foundation based on a winding river through downtown, yet Corpus with all of its natural resources has remained stagnant.


"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be."
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MOE NAILED IT!!

Corpus is EXACTLY how he described it.
yakman
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Well said Moe. CC needs a Tillman Fertitta. What that guy's ventures have done for Galveston and Kemah is what CC needs.

SeaWorld in San Antonio - SA already a popular tourist spot, no hurricanes, close to 3 million people in the SA-Austin corridor.
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It's a great town if you enjoy the outdoors, particularly if you are into fishing.

Otherwise, it's slow - it works on island time.
huisache
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Moe laid out the negatives pretty effectively and I would add one more: Corpus is a couple of towns that don't trust each other a whole lot. One of them is pretty poor and uneducated and slipping because of drugs, alcoholism and horrid family life. This town has a huge chip on its shoulder. These folks are mostly, but not exclusively, hispanic.

The other town is reasonably prosperous and likes to fish, hunt, sail and swim and shop in SA, Austin and Houston. It is both hispanic and anglo.

A huge problem for the town is that it does not have any of the features which are making other Texas cities prosper: it does not have a major university, is not on the border (go to McAllen or Brownsville and you will be shocked at what is happening there, even Laredo), and is not on a major highway that connects one place with another. This is a stopping point or an ending point but not an in between place for anywhere. So it misses out on a lot of commerce.

Good points: it is inexpensive, you can get in anywhere without a reservation, hunting/fishing/water and there are no traffic problem at all. I recently spent a week in LA and spend time in Houston, SA and Austin regularly. You spend half your time in transit there and in CC you can be on one end of town and twenty minutes later be at the other end with no problems.

The college is going to be the engine that changes the city and it continues to grow and because of its higher tuition and admission standards (higher than anywhere else in south Texas) it is drawing some talent. They are opening an engineering school there.

The refineries are not going away even if the navy eventually does.

I like the pace here but don't expect I would like it as much if I was twenty.

One final comment: one of the reasons the down town is in the dumps is because a lot of it is owned by a handful of people who will not do anything with it or sell it because they are trying to wait until there is a casino and they can get real rich on the real estate deals. If you are from here you will know one person in particular who owns almost all the vacant lots downtown and some of the shuttered buildings. He gives generously to city council candidates.

All in all, this is a comfortable place to live and there are some decent schools if you are willing to pay.
HeyMoe
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One final comment: one of the reasons the down town is in the dumps is because a lot of it is owned by a handful of people who will not do anything with it or sell it because they are trying to wait until there is a casino and they can get real rich on the real estate deals. If you are from here you will know one person in particular who owns almost all the vacant lots downtown and some of the shuttered buildings. He gives generously to city council candidates.


I've heard this too.

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LoneStarFree
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Great post Huisache. It's a shame that Corpus is stagnating because of a few people that refuse to let it move forward.
polksalet12345
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Wow, it is sounding more perfect for me by the minute. Other than the schools it sounds grand. I can afford to send them to private school but I wouldn't want to.
Sea Pony 07
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It doesn't seem like there's much to do if you're in your mid-twenties down here, or else I'm just not finding it.
polksalet12345
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If you are single and heterosexual I can't imagine a finer place on the planet.
huisache
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Polksalet: in my experience, Paris France and Austin are better places to be a heterosexual single person but I prefer Corpus because my French generates laughter and Austin's traffic is another brick in the argument that it is now LA East.

Another factor, given your academic pursuits: I have met a goodly number of the faculty members at the school and they all seem to like it here and they are a very agreeable bunch, unlike some faculties I have encountered elsewhere. This may be because they don't have to whizz away a lot of time teaching remedial classes as at other second level schools in Texas-----the ex-president intentionally set up the admission standards so that the lower 50% of the students from the high school level can't get in. The tuition is high enough that the non serious are less likely to apply. So the profs get students are actually there for good reasons and can do the work. I have taken a few night classes there in the last twenty years and came away pleased with the quality.

Fall92
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Polks:

If you're worried about schools, ask around about the Athena program. It's basically a gifted and talented program that kids test into and then stay in from 1-8/9 grades. You start out at Windsor Park, exclusively Athena kids, for elementary and then mix in with other kids in junior high at Baker. It's an outstanding program.

I am an Athena grad, was admitted into an Ivy League school and offered scholarships at A&M, UT, and TCU. I could go on and on about my Athena classmates and their successes (Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Yale, and Rice grads). Anyhow, it's a program within CCISD so you don't necessarily have to send your kids to private school. Again, I would ask around or perhaps others on this board will have some feedback.
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I from Portland which is just across the bridge from Corpus. To anyone planning on moving down there stay away from the inner corpus area especially if you have kids and try to move to the surrounding areas like Flour bluff, calallen and portland. Corpus has gang problem that has been escalateing quickly the last few years
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Southside isn't a bad place to end up either.
Pro Sandy
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I too was in the Athena program, go Owls and broncs! It is a very good program, and that is looking back at it with an MEd. Other good programs in town are Incarnate Word Academy (IWA) and St James Episcopal. St James only goes through (at least as far as I know, I have been gone from CC for years) 8th, so those I know who did that ended up going to Ray for HS. That's because most of them lived in Lamar Park or Ocean Dr. We even had some smart people in our high school who went the public school route through Hamlin MS. I went to Ray, so I don't know much about the South Side.
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I'm also looking at moving down here, a condo on Ocean Dr for a young single male, lol but a lot of the stuff on this thread sounds like a cause for hesitation...

It would be like a starting over/new phase of life kinda thing, and it sounds like this place is completely not suited for that bc of the lack of 20-something year old stuff going on
Sea Pony 07
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Cheaper places to live than Ocean Drive.
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I always liked what Roger Creager said:

The best thing about growing up in south Texas is that Mexico is never more than a few hours away

The worst thing about growing up in south Texas is that Mexico is never more than a few hours away

TravelAg2004
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Well said Moe. CC needs a Tillman Fertitta. What that guy's ventures have done for Galveston and Kemah is what CC needs.

Unfortunately, what happened in Kemah was originally planned in Corpus. The T-Heads downtown was where Tillman originally wanted to build his Landry's "Empire", but an extremely vocal minority of the city threw such a fit he left.

A&M-CC will be a big help, but it's going to take a while and a true cultural shift before the city really begins to prosper. So many people are content with the way things are that they will make an effort to keep change from happening, hence Landry's going to Kemah.
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I'm also looking at moving down here, a condo on Ocean Dr for a young single male, lol but a lot of the stuff on this thread sounds like a cause for hesitation...

It would be like a starting over/new phase of life kinda thing, and it sounds like this place is completely not suited for that bc of the lack of 20-something year old stuff going on

I don't think Corpus would be what you're looking for. The young professional population in Corpus is rather small. There are plenty of young people, but most are those who graduated high school and went to work for one of the refineries or something along those lines. Nothing wrong with that, but it just doesn't lead to alot of young professionals in the area.

One thing to remember is Corpus is a coastal town and not an entertainment town. If you're into fishing and water sports (surfing/boating/etc..) then Corpus is actually pretty good for that. But that's about the biggest draw the city currently has. Besides Chaparral Street downtown, Whiskey River off of Staples, and a few other scattered places, there isn't much in the way of nightlife.

After graduating, I moved back home for 2 years and worked with numerous people to try and convince the city that these sort of entertainment options were needed to bring in young professionals, but no one wanted to listen to me.

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convince the city that these sort of entertainment options were needed to bring in young professionals, but no one wanted to listen to me.


And this is why Corpus will continue to stagnate, very sad. The city has so much potential.
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After reading all this, it sounds a lot like Galveston. As a former G-islander, I saw great potential, but also saw that it was really not going anywhere. Sure, the mardi gras and the Dickens festival are a start, but the island languishes from a lack of serious commercial development, too many poor neighborhoods, roads in need of repair, and crummy attitudes towards "non-islanders."

Too bad ... for both cities.

Oh, and TAMUG hasn't changed Galveston. I hope TAMU-CC has better luck.


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TAMU-CC is much bigger and has much larger ambitions than TAMU-G.

Corpus is to this day it's own worst enemy. But I have to admit the longer I stay away; the more I consider going back.
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I spent most of the first 35 years of my life in the area. 'twas a pretty good place until the major oils left. The change since then is pretty striking - and not in a good way.

MA
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I work in Corpus A LOT. Over the past few years it has seemed to go downhill rapidly. What really turns me off is the fact that about 1/2 the population has no sort of hometown pride whatsoever. It is a common occurance for me to see people dump trash out of their car windows while sitting at a traffic light. Also, while there are some nice neighborhoods, a lot of the ones I work in are like "Lawnmower? Weedeater? Clean the trash out of my yard/street?".

If the pay was right I would move there, but I would be very selective of the neighborhood. And I would probably have to put my kids in private school.
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Born and reared in Houston, I love the "island time" attitude of seemingly everyone here.

I just hope I get to stay here...

(new user name...ol' Ag)

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