What is the definitive boundary line for East Texas?

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Andrew Dufresne
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Opinions vary. Looking for the consensus on what separates East Texas from the rest of the state.
RM76
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Don't think there is a consensus on this. Just depends on the context one is using when referring to this region (and most other regions in Texas).
EastTexAg09
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North border = state line
East border = state line
Western border = Paris to Crockett (includes Sulphur Springs, Athens, and Palestine)
Southern border = Crockett through Lufkin to the state line.

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RM76
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Many folks also include deep East Tx counties in the general category of East Tx.
Andrew Dufresne
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cc10106
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I asked someone recently if Canton is part of East TX, and I see now that it's also on Hwy 19, along with other towns you mentioned for the Western border. It always seemed like a good cutoff/starting point when you're on I-20.


PeekingDuck
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Livingston, Corrigan, and Jasper not east Texas? I might move that line slightly further south. Though Houston is encroaching.
Stive
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I view east Texas in 3 regions.

Northeast Texas is basically north of Gilmer and east of Sulpher Springs.

East Texas is Gilmer south, down to roughly Nac or Lufkin, Canton or Athens area west to Louisiana. There's a pretty definitive line just east of Canton where the tree line starts and shoot's up. That vegetation line is very different than driving on I-30 from SS to Texarkana which is why I view the NE part different from the East.

Deep east Texas is that next section from Lufkin down to Beaumont…maybe Port Arthur but I kind of think of that as even being gulf coast. It includes Jasper, Silsbee, Woodville, etc. Crockett or perhaps a little further west is the western border of Deep East Texas.

rooftop18403
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Edgewood. It's the edge of the woods.
Hub `93
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As a Deep East Texan, I heartily endorse this.
akaggie05
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Going east on 30, I kind of think of Greenville as where it begins.
RM76
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Well, as this thread indicates, I don't think there is a consensus on a definitive line of demarcation for East Texas. This probably holds true for the other regions also. I think most folks have a good general idea but don't think you will get a definitive consensus.
Aggie09!
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Texarkana west to Honey Grove, south to Greenville, south to Kaufman (Terrell excluded), south to Corsicana, follow I-45, southeast to Livingston, east to border.
Andrew Dufresne
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Do any of y'all consider Cut and Shoot a part of East Texas?
JD Shellnut
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Besides anything that has been taken over by Houston, I would say any town behind the pine curtain. I remember driveing to college on hwy 21, and as soon as you pass Crockett the pines would dwindle away and lots more open spaces.
JSKolache
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Yes, pine trees. If you're surrounded by pine trees, it's East Texas. When the land opens up into prairies with hardwoods you just crossed into a different region.
YouBet
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JD Shellnut said:

Besides anything that has been taken over by Houston, I would say any town behind the pine curtain. I remember driveing to college on hwy 21, and as soon as you pass Crockett the pines would dwindle away and lots more open spaces.


Yep. My Geography class at A&M defined it this way. There are distinct geographic regions with borders in Texas. And the Piney Woods is the border for East Texas at least by definition back then.
PeekingDuck
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Well, it has pines and tobacco chewing grandmas, so I think it qualifies.
Hub `93
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And traffic is so slow on 105 that you get to see all of them loading up a wad of Red Man when you drive through there.
Buford T. Justice
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I grew up about 8 miles north of Kountze, and that is where the southern edge of the Pine Curtain begins.
I've definitely always thought of Woodville, Jasper, Lufkin and Nac as East Texas.

Anything Kountze and south is Southeast Texas. IMO.
"Gimme a diablo sandwhich and a dr. pepper...to go"
Hub `93
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Wildwood? Warren?

One of the coaches at our HS taught me driver's ed. One day he had us drive to Warren HS. He went inside and left us in the parking lot for a few minutes. A week or two after that, Warren hired him to be their head football coach.
iLLy RiLLy
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JSKolache said:

Yes, pine trees. If you're surrounded by pine trees, it's East Texas. When the land opens up into prairies with hardwoods you just crossed into a different region.


I guess Montgomery/Dobbin/Plantersville/Magnolia is East Texas.
woodiewood
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When I was with the Texas Forest Service, we considered East Texas to be east of a line from Paris to Palestine, to Livingston, to Jasper and onto the LA border.
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