I haven't seen this discussed yet. Looks like HISD is requesting the largest bond in state history. Why they are needing more money to purchase future school sites when they should be closing campuses is beyond me. It would be a no from me. But I've noticed that all the unhinged homes in the neighborhood have signs saying to vote against it as well. (These are the homes that go beyond a single Harris Walz sign, but add in the county specific one, an anit-Trump one, something bashing Ted Cruz, and have weeds growing through the Go-Away Miles sign and their "We Believe" political sign, the Apostle's Creed of feelings.)

So I was prepared to vote no, but now I have to ask, "Am I missing something?"

Houston ISD's $4.4 billion bond proposal: What you need to know about before casting your vote

FarmerJohn said:

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I haven't seen this discussed yet. Looks like HISD is requesting the largest bond in state history. Why they are needing more money to purchase future school sites when they should be closing campuses is beyond me. It would be a no from me. But I've noticed that all the unhinged homes in the neighborhood have signs saying to vote against it as well. (These are the homes that go beyond a single Harris Walz sign, but add in the county specific one, an anit-Trump one, something bashing Ted Cruz, and have weeds growing through the Go-Away Miles sign and their "We Believe" political sign, the Apostle's Creed of feelings.)

So I was prepared to vote no, but now I have to ask, "Am I missing something?"

Houston ISD's $4.4 billion bond proposal: What you need to know about before casting your vote

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My kid's elementary was a highly rated 'some level' of autonomous IB school in the Heights and they suddenly put the principal on leave a few weeks ago. All the moms are pissed now and all against the bond.

On a zoom meeting last week, Miles said parents at another school were very vocal when their principal was put on leave but that principal ended up having inappropriate contact with a student, basically saying that she could be a diddler so they need to STFU.

AgLiving06 said:

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I have no idea if the bond is necessary (The article seems to kinda of say "maybe), but the liberals who are claiming to want to vote no on it are the classic "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

They hate Miles so they will vote against anything he wants by default, while also complaining about the AC's not working in schools, underqualified teachers being hired, etc.

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Do we really need bonds to fund the basic everyday school infrastructure? My kid had to be shuttled into another class several times when the temp went over 82 or so.

AgLiving06 said:

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I have no idea if the bond is necessary (The article seems to kinda of say "maybe), but the liberals who are claiming to want to vote no on it are the classic "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

They hate Miles so they will vote against anything he wants by default, while also complaining about the AC's not working in schools, underqualified teachers being hired, etc.

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true. but, Miles has already burned up piles of money. Expanded the amount of administrators making big salaries.

drumboy said:

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FarmerJohn said:

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I haven't seen this discussed yet. Looks like HISD is requesting the largest bond in state history. Why they are needing more money to purchase future school sites when they should be closing campuses is beyond me. It would be a no from me. But I've noticed that all the unhinged homes in the neighborhood have signs saying to vote against it as well. (These are the homes that go beyond a single Harris Walz sign, but add in the county specific one, an anit-Trump one, something bashing Ted Cruz, and have weeds growing through the Go-Away Miles sign and their "We Believe" political sign, the Apostle's Creed of feelings.)

So I was prepared to vote no, but now I have to ask, "Am I missing something?"

Houston ISD's $4.4 billion bond proposal: What you need to know about before casting your vote

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My kid's elementary was a highly rated 'some level' of autonomous IB school in the Heights and they suddenly put the principal on leave a few weeks ago. All the moms are pissed now and all against the bond.

On a zoom meeting last week, Miles said parents at another school were very vocal when their principal was put on leave but that principal ended up having inappropriate contact with a student, basically saying that she could be a diddler so they need to STFU.

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yep. highly rated Harvard principal put on leave without notice. we got into Mark Twain which is highly rated and well supported by the local residents. if Miles messes with the school, they will pull their support and send their kids private the whole way.

This is a tough one. While I agree that giving the non-elected, Miles-lead HISD board access to this much money could be a mistake, my Kindergarten aged kid is in line to directly benefit with a brand new elementary and brand new middle school, both of which are 60+ years old.

Reading the tea leaves, though, I don't see this passing. Miles has driven such a wedge that, as you mentioned, even the people whom would typically be for these types of bonds are campaigning against it on principle.

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drumboy said:

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FarmerJohn said:

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I haven't seen this discussed yet. Looks like HISD is requesting the largest bond in state history. Why they are needing more money to purchase future school sites when they should be closing campuses is beyond me. It would be a no from me. But I've noticed that all the unhinged homes in the neighborhood have signs saying to vote against it as well. (These are the homes that go beyond a single Harris Walz sign, but add in the county specific one, an anit-Trump one, something bashing Ted Cruz, and have weeds growing through the Go-Away Miles sign and their "We Believe" political sign, the Apostle's Creed of feelings.)

So I was prepared to vote no, but now I have to ask, "Am I missing something?"

Houston ISD's $4.4 billion bond proposal: What you need to know about before casting your vote

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My kid's elementary was a highly rated 'some level' of autonomous IB school in the Heights and they suddenly put the principal on leave a few weeks ago. All the moms are pissed now and all against the bond.

On a zoom meeting last week, Miles said parents at another school were very vocal when their principal was put on leave but that principal ended up having inappropriate contact with a student, basically saying that she could be a diddler so they need to STFU.

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yep. highly rated Harvard principal put on leave without notice. we got into Mark Twain which is highly rated and well supported by the local residents. if Miles messes with the school, they will pull their support and send their kids private the whole way.

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Yep. The Harvard moms are very vocal and the principal seemed to be really well-liked by parents & kids. Apparently math STAAR scores were down a little but I'd be surprised if they yanked the principal mid-year due to that.

Lots of parents are looking into private school options now.

That's terrible - Harvard was a great school. I hope it still will be.

I'm torn on this bond proposal as well. My 2 kids are out of HISD - college and college bound so no direct impact/benefit for me.

I understand the arguement that giving non-elected board members a blank check is not the best thing but also all the grifting that supposedly occured with the elected board officials has me concerned.

At least with elected board officials there is accountability in the election cycles and they generally have some skin in the game.

I never like voting for the bonds without understanding the plan in a little more detail that what is out there currently. At least the technology bond proposal hopefully addresses some more immediate needs.

Seemed like an odd time to try to pass this bond.

Unelected school board with an appointed Superintendent who is divisive

I found it interesting that both the Harris County GOP and Harris County Democrats advised voting against the HISD bonds in their respective voter guides.

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AgLiving06 said:

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I have no idea if the bond is necessary (The article seems to kinda of say "maybe), but the liberals who are claiming to want to vote no on it are the classic "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

They hate Miles so they will vote against anything he wants by default, while also complaining about the AC's not working in schools, underqualified teachers being hired, etc.

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Do we really need bonds to fund the basic everyday school infrastructure? My kid had to be shuttled into another class several times when the temp went over 82 or so.

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District funds can be used on maintenance but if its something expensive like buying a whole new HVAC system, school districts use selling bonds to fund larger capital projects like the because they can't legally take out loans nor do they have a stockpile of cash sitting to the side for building upgrades because that would be seen as a waste of tax dollars to tax local citizens to just keep the cash to the side not doing something. School districts that have their budgets in order can pass bonds without raising tax rates at the same time. Yes, its on the local tax base to pay off that bond over time hence why there is a vote but it is usually the only way public school districts can finance upgrades with the rules and laws they have to work under.

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drumboy said:

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AgLiving06 said:

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I have no idea if the bond is necessary (The article seems to kinda of say "maybe), but the liberals who are claiming to want to vote no on it are the classic "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

They hate Miles so they will vote against anything he wants by default, while also complaining about the AC's not working in schools, underqualified teachers being hired, etc.

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Do we really need bonds to fund the basic everyday school infrastructure? My kid had to be shuttled into another class several times when the temp went over 82 or so.

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District funds can be used on maintenance but if its something expensive like buying a whole new HVAC system, school districts use selling bonds to fund larger capital projects like the because they can't legally take out loans nor do they have a stockpile of cash sitting to the side for building upgrades because that would be seen as a waste of tax dollars to tax local citizens to just keep the cash to the side not doing something. School districts that have their budgets in order can pass bonds without raising tax rates at the same time. Yes, its on the local tax base to pay off that bond over time hence why there is a vote but it is usually the only way public school districts can finance upgrades with the rules and laws they have to work under.

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So a school district with close to 300 schools needs voter approval on a bond to fix the AC in a tiny elementary school?

So is Miles adding a layer of admin bloat or is he having to pay above market rate for admin spots because HISD is a dangerous bunghole full of illiterate savages?

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cajunaggie08 said:

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drumboy said:

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AgLiving06 said:

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I have no idea if the bond is necessary (The article seems to kinda of say "maybe), but the liberals who are claiming to want to vote no on it are the classic "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

They hate Miles so they will vote against anything he wants by default, while also complaining about the AC's not working in schools, underqualified teachers being hired, etc.

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Do we really need bonds to fund the basic everyday school infrastructure? My kid had to be shuttled into another class several times when the temp went over 82 or so.

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District funds can be used on maintenance but if its something expensive like buying a whole new HVAC system, school districts use selling bonds to fund larger capital projects like the because they can't legally take out loans nor do they have a stockpile of cash sitting to the side for building upgrades because that would be seen as a waste of tax dollars to tax local citizens to just keep the cash to the side not doing something. School districts that have their budgets in order can pass bonds without raising tax rates at the same time. Yes, its on the local tax base to pay off that bond over time hence why there is a vote but it is usually the only way public school districts can finance upgrades with the rules and laws they have to work under.

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So a school district with close to 300 schools needs voter approval on a bond to fix the AC in a tiny elementary school?

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No.

A school district that has administrators who spend like drunken sailors and who have zero concept (or incentive) to be fiscally responsible has to pass a bond to get new equipment that should be budgeted for in the general maintenance fund.

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Vote against every bond issue going forward. A message needs to be sent that wasting and misusing resources must stop.

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A bond is not, in itself, a 'misuse' of resources.

The size of this bond offering is a bit daunting to me, even though I agree there are likely significant capital needs. I'm likely to vote No.

I early voted today. My favorite part of voting for these bonds was the final sentence in each proposition that I don't recall ever seeing before:

"this will increase your property taxes."

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Anastasia Beaverhaven said:

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Always vote against every bond. We give too much of our money to the govt and I still need a new alignment each time I drive down one of our city streets.

These people are getting more brazen with each bond that passes.

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That's nonsensical.

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How about you tell us more about your opinion?

Cut the fat.