chlavinka said:

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Not in Texas it doesn't

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Yes it does actually.

I think the law is harsher now but 17 years ago it was always yield to pedestrians on crosswalks except in intersctions.

Shepherd and Durham are a collective sheet show right now. Two lanes and sometimes only one lane. And you have all of those idiots pretending they don't see 100 yards in front of them. The big white arrow saying that their lane is no longer available. Those people really piss me off. Do they really expect me to let them in after pretending they don't see that? Oh hell no.

I'm waiting for someone to get killed on 11th. The way they ****ed that street up plus all the added non-intersection crosswalks is just asking for trouble. Pedestrians think just because the law gives them the right of way that they can just step into traffic and cars will stop.

Oh and they're adding a bunch of new non-intersection crosswalks on shepard/Durham too so get ready for cars to slam on their brakes in rush hour traffic because someone can't walk half a block to the nearest intersection to cross.

ChemAg15 said:

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I'm waiting for someone to get killed on 11th. The way they ****ed that street up plus all the added non-intersection crosswalks is just asking for trouble. Pedestrians think just because the law gives them the right of way that they can just step into traffic and cars will stop.

Oh and they're adding a bunch of new non-intersection crosswalks on shepard/Durham too so get ready for cars to slam on their brakes in rush hour traffic because someone can't walk half a block to the nearest intersection to cross.

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And pedestrians idiotically just walk out into the street without looking, expecting traffic will stop for them. That's a real problem at Heights/7th now with joggers. They don't even look; they just run out into Heights Blvd.

It's incredibly frustrating. Pedestrians should not have the right of way in uncontrolled intersections. It's much easier for a pedestrian to see and avoid a car than it is for a car to see a pedestrian. Pedestrians aren't supposed to be in the street and we teach this to kids at a very early age.

A guy on a bike with his kid on the back rode out in front of me at 11th and Nicholson last week. It was 6pm so it was dark and he was wearing dark clothing. Traffic was heavy and I was focused on the tail lights in front of me. Slammed on my brakes and stopped in time. This guy is seriously trying to get 2 people killed and 1 thrown in prison.

Yeah that's messed up.

The laws that will never change are the laws of physics. People need to wait until cars stop and then go.

Saw some fb/insta posts regarding this over the past few days. Really sad all around.

Ryan the Temp said:

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ChemAg15 said:

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I'm waiting for someone to get killed on 11th. The way they ****ed that street up plus all the added non-intersection crosswalks is just asking for trouble. Pedestrians think just because the law gives them the right of way that they can just step into traffic and cars will stop.

Oh and they're adding a bunch of new non-intersection crosswalks on shepard/Durham too so get ready for cars to slam on their brakes in rush hour traffic because someone can't walk half a block to the nearest intersection to cross.

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And pedestrians idiotically just walk out into the street without looking, expecting traffic will stop for them. That's a real problem at Heights/7th now with joggers. They don't even look; they just run out into Heights Blvd.

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Heights 7th has a STOP HERE FOR PEDS/BIKES sign. And a speed bump. I'm probably gonna die there

ChemAg15 said:

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I'm waiting for someone to get killed on 11th. The way they ****ed that street up plus all the added non-intersection crosswalks is just asking for trouble. Pedestrians think just because the law gives them the right of way that they can just step into traffic and cars will stop.

Oh and they're adding a bunch of new non-intersection crosswalks on shepard/Durham too so get ready for cars to slam on their brakes in rush hour traffic because someone can't walk half a block to the nearest intersection to cross.

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The intersection ones are just as bad. Ever since they changed the lights on Yale there's an endless stream of idiots who will walk right in front of you when you are trying to turn right. I routinely nudge out in the cross walk and/or lay on the horn just to make them walk around.

The part that infuriates me is I know almost none of them are walking somewhere to feed their kids, they are mostly walking to be d**ches and mess up traffic to get their weak exercise.

The laws need to change for everyone's safety. Crosswalks on major roads as a whole need to go away completely. It should be cross when there are absolutely no cars on your own, stay in your neighborhood, or build a bridge over the major road.

Or, and hear me out, we could punish heavily drivers who don't obey pedestrian crossing laws. Somehow everywhere else in the world can figure them out.

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Heights 7th has a STOP HERE FOR PEDS/BIKES sign. And a speed bump. I'm probably gonna die there

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The sign is partially obstructed by trees, a METRO bus stop sign, and sometimes parked vehicles. Thankfully motorists are getting used to it being there, which makes the crossing safer in general. However, the effectiveness of those signs is predicated on the idea that motorists will have enough time to see the pedestrians and stop for them. It's the pedestrians who go at the crossing without looking for vehicles or slowing down, as if Heights Blvd isn't even there, who create danger for themselves.

Quit using logic. The law is the law for a reason and the reason is because that's what the rest of the world does.

ChemAg15 said:

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I'm waiting for someone to get killed on 11th. The way they ****ed that street up plus all the added non-intersection crosswalks is just asking for trouble.

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There are no lights or stop signs between Yale and Shepherd on 11th. Is it appropriate to ask people to walk the better part of a mile to cross at an intersection with a light?

Houston has so few walkable neighborhoods, why are people so mad that the city made one that is walkable a little better for those of us who choose to walk?

ETA: the speed limit on 11th is 30mph so it isn't like we should see people slamming on their brakes from freeway speeds.

ChemAg15 said:

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It's incredibly frustrating. Pedestrians should not have the right of way in uncontrolled intersections. It's much easier for a pedestrian to see and avoid a car than it is for a car to see a pedestrian. Pedestrians aren't supposed to be in the street and we teach this to kids at a very early age.

A guy on a bike with his kid on the back rode out in front of me at 11th and Nicholson last week. It was 6pm so it was dark and he was wearing dark clothing. Traffic was heavy and I was focused on the tail lights in front of me. Slammed on my brakes and stopped in time. This guy is seriously trying to get 2 people killed and 1 thrown in prison.

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First and foremost, pedestrians there have a stop sign. So no, it doesn't just give them the right of way to speed through right into traffic without stopping.

That said, people are stupid. But this goes for all sides. I know pedestrians abuse that and don't stop and look. But I also take 11th pretty much every morning and evening taking my kid to and picking him up from daycare. I've been stopped there waiting for a pedestrian to cross and watched a car blow through on the opposite side of traffic way more often than I've seen pedestrians just blindly walk out.

So, control what you can control. I simply slow down, particularly as I'm approaching that crosswalk since it's heavily used, to like 15 or 20. Not hard to stop for someone at that point.

Thing is, drivers are getting worse (and more distracted), see a few posts up, how dare someone cross when I'm turning right. As drivers get worse, these types of crosswalks are going to become more common and more drastic. If someone is killed at 11th and Nicholson, they aren't going to say, hmmm, guess we should just get rid of these crosswalks....They're going to say, damn, adding all this still didn't make drivers pay attention, so lets now add flashing red lights....

I've noticed Heights motorists generally driving more cautiously when approaching the pedestrian crosswalks, which is a great thing. I know I do. Of course, there's always people not paying attention...and those that think people shouldn't be walking/running and want to teach them a lesson. But overall, I've noticed it's been much easier to get around as a walker/runner in the neighborhood.

Haha - yeah that makes me slow down a little there too.

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MAS444 said:

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I've noticed Heights motorists generally driving more cautiously when approaching the pedestrian crosswalks, which is a great thing. I know I do. Of course, there's always people not paying attention...and those that think people shouldn't be walking/running and want to teach them a lesson. But overall, I've noticed it's been much easier to get around as a walker/runner in the neighborhood.

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Every time I see the pedestrian bump at 7th and Heights.

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I watched someone do that one day right after it went in. Sparks flew and everything. Made me wish I had a dash cam.

My biggest issue is that this little sign is what we're counting on to protect pedestrians from cars. Some call this a stop sign, and while that is technically correct I'll argue that its not a stop sign in the typical sense. First of all they're just not as easy to see as a big red stop sign. Secondly does a driver have to stop here everytime? Or just when there are pedestrians? How close do these pedestrians need to be to the intersection for the driver to be obligated to stop? It's too much thinking for the typical Houstonian. I'll add that this sign is incredibly unsafe at night since it relies on the driver seeing a pedestrian on the side of the road.

I'm not against walkable neighborhoods. I just think that this could have been done much better and I dont want anyone to get hurt. I'd much prefer a controlled crossing with flashing red lights like they have on Shepherd by Kroger.

ChemAg15 said:

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My biggest issue is that this little sign is what we're counting on to protect pedestrians from cars. Some call this a stop sign, and while that is technically correct I'll argue that its not a stop sign in the typical sense. First of all they're just not as easy to see as a big red stop sign. Secondly does a driver have to stop here everytime? Or just when there are pedestrians? How close do these pedestrians need to be to the intersection for the driver to be obligated to stop? It's too much thinking for the typical Houstonian. I'll add that this sign is incredibly unsafe at night since it relies on the driver seeing a pedestrian on the side of the road.

I'm not against walkable neighborhoods. I just think that this could have been done much better and I dont want anyone to get hurt. I'd much prefer a controlled crossing with flashing red lights like they have on Shepherd by Kroger.

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That's a contingent stop sign. You only stop when peds are present. So, it's more of a yield sign, IMHO, because you're yielding to the peds.

Is Sherry Ann Parsons still in the hospital? Where is her booking photo?

She was released several days ago and posted bond.

Houston Ave construction back in the news today…

https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/houston-road-project-trinity-downtown-18540780.php