Bucketrunner said:

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There's no evidence that most support it. And the more it's shoved in our face, the less I will ignore it and the more I will loathe it.

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I didn't say most support it. I said they don't mind it.

I doubt you'll accept *any* evidence. But this seems fairly supportive.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/393197/same-sex-marriage-support-inches-new-high.aspx

"Seventy-one percent of Americans say they support legal same-sex marriage, which exceeds the previous high of 70% recorded in 2021 by one percentage point.

These data are from Gallup's annual Values and Beliefs poll, conducted May 2-22."

I assume most people don't give much of a damn one way or the other. The extremes are always the loudest though.

There is a large difference between supporting gay marriage (not caring) and having the flags, acronyms, drag queen crap, etc shoved in everyone's faces and in our childrens.

Acronyms!? The horror!

You seem to be taking offense to this thread? Are you a gay? Or a Q? Or an I? Or a B? Or whatever the hell else letter they try to call themselves these days?

What are your preferred acronyms and pronouns?

Gays don't understand granularity or moderation.

Chewy said:

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Just spitballing ideas but what if society did away with Pride Month and promoted Military Appreciation Month much more heavily but in return took away honoring a veteran or two at every sporting event and implemented something like "Gay of the Game" where someone like that got on the big screen and waved to the crowd?.

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They could have someone in a Liberace jacket doing a quick interview with your Gay of The Game.

AustinCountyAg said:

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There is a large difference between supporting gay marriage (not caring) and having the flags, acronyms, drag queen crap, etc shoved in everyone's faces and in our childrens.

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THIS!

schmendeler said:

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Pride month is as official as national ice cream sundae day or national dog day. There is no government holiday. Some people decide it's something they want to observe but you don't have to do anything. You are just upset that the majority of people don't mind it, and that irritates you. So you have to get indignant about it. We get it. Gays being seen as acceptable, and being allowed to celebrate that makes you feel bad feelings, but no one else has to also feel those feelings. Just like you can decline to acknowledge pride month yourself.

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wut? Your statement was maybe accurate in 1983. It literally is an official government holiday in 2023.

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NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2023 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and Intersex Pride Month. I call upon the people of the United States to recognize the achievements of the LGBTQI+ community, to celebrate the great diversity of the American people, and to wave their flags of pride high.

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The US government flies pride flags for June at our embassies, including the Vatican, to export this stuff world wide.



Here, the message is being forced on everyone through government, in the schools, corporate America, the media, church...with the goal of social ostracization if you "don't wear the ribbon". You'd have to be a Luddite hermit to not get several doses a day.

Nowhere in that message does it announce a holiday. It's a proclamation with zero actual power.

Uh oh, double entire month "government holidays"!

June is also black music month.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/05/31/a-proclamation-on-black-music-month-2023/

Ahhh ****, i spoke too soon! Triple government holiday months!!!

Caribbean American month!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/05/31/a-proclamation-on-national-caribbean-american-heritage-month-2023/

How convenient that you ignored pride flags being flown at US embassies.

Oh yes, the terrible decision to allow embassies to fly the pride flag if they want. Clearly draconian.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/22/pride-flag-lgbtq-rights-state-department-biden-reverse-trump-embassies/

What a weird take. Yes, the flags we choose to fly at our embassies around the world matter. They send a message tk the world about what is important to the US based on what flags we fly and what flags we don't. We used to export freedom. We now export not tolerance, which is how you interpret it, but the idea that "alternative" lifestyles must be celebrated or else you are a bigot.

Hold up- there's a national dog day and I haven't been celebrating? Let's turn our focus to something we can all get behind!

I'm just glad you agree that pride month isn't a holiday, and the government isn't mandating that embassies fly the pride flag.

You don't like it, which is your choice. But the like/dislike is not what i was talking about. There is no government directive to make us all celebrate pride month.

August 26 this year

I mean, it's a mandate without being a mandate. I imagine it's not mandated because they won't fly them in Muslim countries because they don't want our embassies burned down. So they're actually woke cowards who won't fly pride flags the one place where tolerance is actually the most necessary.

Also, you destroy your own point about it not being a "holiday" regardless of what you call it. Yes, there are others, but does our government participate and push them? No. Do major corporations? No. So call it want you want, but "pride month" is a holiday by the truest meaning - it's a woke holy month. Not only that, to the left, it's the holiest of all months.

You might want to stop watching the fox news, amigo.

The holiest of all months!

You mean like UAE?

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pride-flags-embassy/fact-check-pride-flags-have-been-flown-by-u-s-embassies-in-muslim-majority-countries-during-biden-presidency-idUSL1N2Y01EU

1) I don't watch Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, or whatever else you probably imagine. I just pay attention.
2) What is celebrated more than pride month by the left?

Now do Iran.

ETA I know we don't have an embassy in Iran, I was being over the top. There are other better real examples. Reuters cherry picked two, so I will too.

BQRyno said:

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1) I don't watch Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, or whatever else you probably imagine. I just pay attention.
2) What is celebrated more than pride month by the left?

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Christmas, halloween, 4th of july, Trump's trials

They just finished celebrating the season of Succession if you want to talk about what the left loves.

BQRyno said:

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Now do Iran.

ETA I know we don't have an embassy in Iran, I was being over the top. There are other better real examples. Reuters cherry picked two, so I will too.

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"They won't fly them in Muslim countries! ...except for the two you pointed out, but i meant other than those two!"

A very serious person.

Christmas? Didn't Obama literally stop calling it the White House Christmas Tree? None of those are celebrated by the decision makers (government or corporate) as matters of morality for a full month and for some reason this year suddenly a full month of prep ahead of time. Halloween and Christmas decorations are sold, but there's no moral agenda tied to them. Christmas's morality is a shred of what it was.

July 4th? Come on. The left despises the founding fathers and our constitution. Just no.

I guess I'd have to do the actual fact checker job of finding every other Muslim country where we don't. But I won't. Continue living in your fantasy world where we champion alphabet soup causes in all the places where they're thrown off buildings for being gay.

Dude, you need to get out and touch some grass. Seriously. You're eaten up with the GOP online bull*****

Have a good weekend. Feel free to walk right past any rainbows you see.

You realize you went from saying pride month is just like any national ice cream day to saying no we totally celebrate it in even Muslim counties, right? I think you've proved my point. Yes, it's intentional, and yes, it's a big deal - like it or not. It's not trivial like you tried to say it was. Thanks for the assist.

Also, it's amusing that your defense is saying my life is consumed by right wing news rather than a debate. That's pretty typical. I have an extremely full life, thanks.

BQRyno said:

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You realize you went from saying pride month is just like any national ice cream day to saying no we totally celebrate it in even Muslim counties, right? I think you've proved my point. Yes, it's intentional, and yes, it's a big deal - like it or not. It's not trivial like you tried to say it was. Thanks for the assist.

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Now you're manufacturing things.

You said no embassies fly the pride flag in Muslim countries. I proved that wrong.

There is no governmental directive to observe pride month. Even the pride flag at embassies.

Have a good one.

schmendeler said:

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You might want to stop watching the fox news, amigo.

The holiest of all months!

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I love this zinger. Liberals still think we watch Fox News. I don't know anyone under 70 who has watched Fox News in years...aside from maybe internet clips of Tucker. It's actually more likely that you get your news from the likes of Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow imo.

You may disagree, but we are making honest and sincere commentary based on observations and actual current events. I agree that it is absurd to devote a month of praise and recognition (mostly just hollow pandering) to non-straights. I know gay people who actually hate it, along with all of the other in-your-face stuff we see today...especially re: children (i.e. LGBTQ'ers going crazy when FL said teachers can't discuss gender and sexuality with 7 and 8 yr old students behind mommy and daddy's backs).

BQRyno said:

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Christmas? Didn't Obama literally stop calling it the White House Christmas Tree? None of those are celebrated by the decision makers (government or corporate) as matters of morality for a full month and for some reason this year suddenly a full month of prep ahead of time. Halloween and Christmas decorations are sold, but there's no moral agenda tied to them. Christmas's morality is a shred of what it was.

July 4th? Come on. The left despises the founding fathers and our constitution. Just no.

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I didnt say its celebrated in a moral way or the way you may want it to be celebrated, but people on the left still get together with families, buy presents, race to starbucks to get those stupid red cups, waste money pleading for their kids to smile with santa. The American christmas experience is still celebrated by those on the left too.

Last time I checked, democrats and republicans all love shooting off fireworks and celebrating the country.