Madmarttigan said:

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I am curious do people get this sensitive about all vaccines doctors bring up these days or is it just covid.

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just covid. My kids have had their full slate of childhood vaccines because there's decades of research behind them. At this point for them, covid the vaccine is at best an unknown and covid the disease is a non-event. They've had it and you never would have known except it was when schools, etc, were going bat**** about testing.

HeightsAg said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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A pediatrician doesn't know more than most of us on this vaccine

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I respect individual choice but this mentality bogles my mind.

Let's see - a typical entry level pediatrician spends at least 11 years in training focusing on the health and well-being of children, which includes medicines and vaccines.

Exactly how much time have you spent studying the subject and what makes you assume you know more about it than certified professionals?

I don't know what you do for a living but I would hope that you have enough pride to believe that you are more informed in your profession than the average Joe who is gather their info from Google searches and message boards.

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I don't know of a single pediatrician who intensely studied MRNA vaccine technology enough to be a certified expert. I do know that the inventor of the technology does not recommend this new still-experimental vaccine it for children.

They are at virtually zero risk from severe reaction to Covid. Our 1 yr old had it and it was NOTHING compared to RSV or some of the other daycare bugs she has brought home.

If they were at greater risk, I might consider it, but would still prefer some type of vaccine that is more time tested and proven. BC as it stands now, I have seen several studies indicating that young people are actually at GREATER risk of complications from the vaccine itself than the virus.

I am PRO VACCINES btw. Most "anti-vaxxers" (liberal political attack label) get their children folly vaccinated with the traditional time proven vaccines.

Sorry, but it is not weird at all to not want a doctor who tries to push this on your children.

BG Knocc Out said:

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HeightsAg said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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A pediatrician doesn't know more than most of us on this vaccine

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I respect individual choice but this mentality bogles my mind.

Let's see - a typical entry level pediatrician spends at least 11 years in training focusing on the health and well-being of children, which includes medicines and vaccines.

Exactly how much time have you spent studying the subject and what makes you assume you know more about it than certified professionals?

I don't know what you do for a living but I would hope that you have enough pride to believe that you are more informed in your profession than the average Joe who is gather their info from Google searches and message boards.

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Sorry, but it is not weird at all to not want a doctor who tries to push this on your children.

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Don't try to redirect - I didn't say it was weird to not want a doctor to push the vaccine, in fact I'm all about doing your own due diligence.

I said that it is crazy to me that people who are untrained in medicine think that they know better than pediatricians who study this stuff in school for at least 11 years and treat patients on a daily basis as their profession.

No need for us to go back and forth on your "facts" as it's not constructive but not going to let you twist my words.

HeightsAg said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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HeightsAg said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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A pediatrician doesn't know more than most of us on this vaccine

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I respect individual choice but this mentality bogles my mind.

Let's see - a typical entry level pediatrician spends at least 11 years in training focusing on the health and well-being of children, which includes medicines and vaccines.

Exactly how much time have you spent studying the subject and what makes you assume you know more about it than certified professionals?

I don't know what you do for a living but I would hope that you have enough pride to believe that you are more informed in your profession than the average Joe who is gather their info from Google searches and message boards.

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Sorry, but it is not weird at all to not want a doctor who tries to push this on your children.

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Don't try to redirect - I didn't say it was weird to not want a doctor to push the vaccine, in fact I'm all about doing your own due diligence.

I said that it is crazy to me that people who are untrained in medicine think that they know better than pediatricians who study this stuff in school for at least 11 years and treat patients on a daily basis as their profession.

No need for us to go back and forth on your "facts" as it's not constructive but not going to let you twist my words.

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THEY DIDNT "STUDY THIS STUFF" (the new vaccine/MRNA tech) FOR 11 YEARS IS MY POINT. How could they have...it's brand new? With very few exceptions, the average pediatrician doesn't know sh** about this vaccine technology.

They (other docs, not pediatricians) were strongly advocating it for my 4-5mo pregnant wife, knowing she had fully recovered a few months before conception and was in great hell...literally telling us there was zero risk to her or the fetus. This was early in the vaccine rollout and at a time where the CDC and WHO did not recommend it for people under 16. Hell to the F no is my unborn daughter going to be a guinea pig.

Are you one of those people that doesn't believe in myocarditis, and that there are people (rare, sure) dying from it as a result of the vaccine? Hearing about healthy 35 year olds and 20-something year olds just collapsing and dying? There have been MANY world renown doctors saying it is not a good idea to vax and boost children. How could they possibly know more about it than an almighty pediatrician?

I have no problem with you blindly trusting doctors on brand new experimental vaccines that provide zero benefit to children...not sure why some of you have problems with others choosing to trust some doctors over others?

First off, it seems like you have a problem with reading comprehension. I've already stated multiple times that I support individual choice and doing your own due diligence. But more importantly, no need to get so worked up about this. Apparently we disagree on a physician's acumen on medicine and vaccines compared to the average person but that's fine - let's just leave it at that.

HeightsAg said:

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First off, it seems like you have a problem with reading comprehension. I've already stated multiple times that I support individual choice and doing your own due diligence. But more importantly, no need to get so worked up about this. Apparently we disagree on a physician's acumen on medicine and vaccines compared to the average person but that's fine - let's just leave it at that.

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You think BG is average?

HeightsAg said:

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First off, it seems like you have a problem with reading comprehension. I've already stated multiple times that I support individual choice and doing your own due diligence. But more importantly, no need to get so worked up about this. Apparently we disagree on a physician's acumen on medicine and vaccines compared to the average person but that's fine - let's just leave it at that.

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You also have a problem with reading comprehension imo, because your original reply (below) was in response to me clearly saying PEDIATRICIANS don't have a solid understanding of THIS vaccine. It was literally being rolled out after being rapidly developed and introduced and there is just no way the avg pediatrician was an expert on this very specific medication/MRNA technology.

Hell, the supposed "best doctors in the world" were saying it would stop the spread and you wouldn't get the virus if you got the vaccine lol.

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I respect individual choice but this mentality bogles my mind.

Let's see - a typical entry level pediatrician spends at least 11 years in training focusing on the health and well-being of children, which includes medicines and vaccines.

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I never meant to imply that they don't have any better understanding of vaccines and medicine in general, just this one.

drumboy said:

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HeightsAg said:

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First off, it seems like you have a problem with reading comprehension. I've already stated multiple times that I support individual choice and doing your own due diligence. But more importantly, no need to get so worked up about this. Apparently we disagree on a physician's acumen on medicine and vaccines compared to the average person but that's fine - let's just leave it at that.

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You think BG is average?

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Says the guy who thinks vaccinated people can't get severe cases or die.

Shooz in Katy said:

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I Am A Critic said:

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Shooz in Katy said:

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Bumping my own thread as a public service announcement See my updated OP.

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I guess you haven't heard Covid is over?

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My wife is a nurse and is looking for new a new job and as of last week, is still being denied employment because she has no covid vax. Some of of these places get you all the way to the offer phase until they bring up "oh you have to be fully covid vaxed to work here." So now she asks up front. Everything desirable that she's perfect for has this same policy so far even though the feds have officially "ended" the pandemic.

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I forged a vaccine card to keep my job and do not regret it. Just have to make sure you follow instructions (can find them online I believe) and get fedex/kinko's to print on the right paper.

That being said, the medical community may very well do a closer review than my fortune 500 company that was just following tyrannical orders of the braindead president so they wouldn't get fined.