Does anyone know of any pediatricians practicing in the Katy area who DO NOT recommend covid vaccines for kids?


I have 3 kids needing new doctors since we moved back here. Thanks!

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UPDATE: 8/2/2023

Springtime Pediatrics on Kingsland in Katy is fantastic. I've got all 3 of my kids there now.

Dr. Williams is an Aggie and she's wonderful. There is no pressure or mention of COVID vax at the clinic. I did see they have a policy posted on their website saying all their patients have to follow the CDC vaccine guidelines. I called ahead and they said it doesn't apply to covid or flu. This was true when I took my kids in. I have teenagers so they asked about Gardasil (HPV vax) but there was no pressure or sales pitch. My kids are up to date on the regular stuff like measles, DTap, HEP A/B, MMR, Polio, Varicella etc. So if you're not willing to do the basic ones required for public school I can't say what they would do,

Very clean clinic in a good location, adequately staffed. I would recommend it to any family but like I said above, I don't know how they'd react to 100% no vax families (which we are not). As far as Dr. Williams goes, she's fantastic.

/Shooz in Katy

https://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-stella-immanuel-28rnt

Seamaster said:

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Define "push" the vaccine....

Some may be required to mention it or offer it but are not 'pushing' it.

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That's a good point. If the doc has to check the box I don't care but I also don't want a doc who really thinks the covid vax is good for kids.

Shooz in Katy said:

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Seamaster said:

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Define "push" the vaccine....

Some may be required to mention it or offer it but are not 'pushing' it.

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That's a good point. If the doc has to check the box I don't care but I also don't want a doc who really thinks the covid vax is good for kids.

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I would be less interested in a doc that recommends something they don't agree with just to "check a box". And any doc recommending Covid jabs for kids should not be trusted for anything beyond treating a boo boo.

I think that's what I was trying to say. I absolutely don't trust any doctor that thinks the jab is good for kids. To me, check the box means "I have to ask you if you want your kid to have the jab" not "I think your kid needs the jab".

Bert315 said:

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Dr McGee at Blue Fish Pediatrics has been great. The nurse asked if we wanted our daughter to have it at her last check up but that was it.

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I'm pretty sure that is as far as any doctors office goes and probably what OP defines as pushing and got sensitive about it.

We are with Texas Childrens and they haven't said a peep about it to us. My answer is no but I'm not going to be offended if they bring it up.

The pediatrician we have been with for years was HIGHLY recommending it. My son is a teen said no and was basically in a stare down with her after that. Proud of him for not looking away or speaking after that. We are done with Memorial Herman Pediatrics Katy.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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We've had nothing but good care at Memorial Hermann Pediatrics and I don't even recall us discussing the COVID vaccine with them at all. While we've avoided the vaccine, I do understand that doctors might know more about medicine and vaccines than I do and so it doesn't bother me when they talk about it.

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A pediatrician doesn't know more than most of us on this vaccine. A ton of them are pushing it on toddlers and small children and saying pregnant women should get it. Before the baby, a few doctors (not pediatricians granted) were really pushing it on her when she was 4-5mo pregnant in early 2021. Flabbergasted that we would decline, even knowing she was perfectly fit and healthy and had naturally recovered from it about 6 months before.

I've lost so much faith in the medical community it's not even funny.

BG Knocc Out said:

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A pediatrician doesn't know more than most of us on this vaccine

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I respect individual choice but this mentality bogles my mind.

Let's see - a typical entry level pediatrician spends at least 11 years in training focusing on the health and well-being of children, which includes medicines and vaccines.

Exactly how much time have you spent studying the subject and what makes you assume you know more about it than certified professionals?

I don't know what you do for a living but I would hope that you have enough pride to believe that you are more informed in your profession than the average Joe who is gather their info from Google searches and message boards.

I don't think that is what the poster is trying to insinuate.

The problem from the start was the actual information and "research " sources provided to the doctors by the medical establishment.

Objectivity was immediately thrown out the window to prop up an MRNA medical device delivery system that was insidiously sold to the medical community and the public as a "vaccine". Lancet study fabrication to erase 50+ years of data on HCQ safety was the first domino to drop followed by a truly evil effort to cancel doctors who saw through the lies the power structure was (and still is) perpetrating on the innocent. Whether you believe any of this or not, there is plenty of proof the entire "information " hierarchy related to covid was criminally politicized and most of the doctors fell for it because it was coming from the same organizations they always reliably went to for their research data to draw conclusions. They were being fed outright propaganda and only a fraction of doctors were and still are brave enough to stand behind the Hippocratic oath and healthy skepticism in the face of the outright career ending wrath of the world's farthest reaching power grab over human conduct in history.

I'm sure now I'll be attacked as a heretic but I do not trust my family's health to the NIH, WHO, Bill Gates, Fauci, Pfizer and all their buddies who carry their water. It's nothing short of a modern day Spanish Inquisition and I don't need to be a doctor to have come to know this. There is no 11 years of training that can "un-truth" these sad facts.

I am curious do people get this sensitive about all vaccines doctors bring up these days or is it just covid.

I don't think you understand what the Spanish Inquisition was.

"Convert to Covidian believer or die (be cancelled, lose your license, be ostracized, lose your job)"

During the Spanish Inquisition did they not force conversion or more rigid adherence to the orthodoxy lest their subjects pay a heavy price? I'm no history major but that's what has happened with the ronapocolypse.

Madmarttigan said:

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I am curious do people get this sensitive about all vaccines doctors bring up these days or is it just covid.

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I have no issues with people doing their own research and due diligence. But it can't be argued that vaccines have historically been an absolute positive. I'm a little afraid of how vocal people are about doctors being idiots, pushing vaccines because of $$$, eating up propaganda, etc., etc. and how that translates to the next generation.

We already have a potential resurgence of things like polio because of antivaccine movements. And, just like everything else, the people behind those movements absolutely believe they are right and doctors are wrong. With a good chunk of the next generation constantly hearing their parents undermine doctors and medicine, it would be shocking of that antivaccine movement doesn't continue to grow.

htxag09 said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I am curious do people get this sensitive about all vaccines doctors bring up these days or is it just covid.

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I have no issues with people doing their own research and due diligence. But it can't be argued that vaccines have historically been an absolute positive. I'm a little afraid of how vocal people are about doctors being idiots, pushing vaccines because of $$$, eating up propaganda, etc., etc. and how that translates to the next generation.

We already have a potential resurgence of things like polio because of antivaccine movements. And, just like everything else, the people behind those movements absolutely believe they are right and doctors are wrong. With a good chunk of the next generation constantly hearing their parents undermine doctors and medicine, it would be shocking of that antivaccine movement doesn't continue to grow.

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Amen.

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Objectivity was immediately thrown out the window to prop up an MRNA medical device delivery system that was insidiously sold to the medical community and the public as a "vaccine".

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this is an established fact? I don't personally know, but your assertion of this seems to say you definitely know more than medical professionals. again, maybe you do, then why see a Dr. for anything?

that Dr might like Bill Gates... then what will you do?

htxag09 said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I am curious do people get this sensitive about all vaccines doctors bring up these days or is it just covid.

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I have no issues with people doing their own research and due diligence. But it can't be argued that vaccines have historically been an absolute positive. I'm a little afraid of how vocal people are about doctors being idiots, pushing vaccines because of $$$, eating up propaganda, etc., etc. and how that translates to the next generation.

We already have a potential resurgence of things like polio because of antivaccine movements. And, just like everything else, the people behind those movements absolutely believe they are right and doctors are wrong. With a good chunk of the next generation constantly hearing their parents undermine doctors and medicine, it would be shocking of that antivaccine movement doesn't continue to grow.

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There's a fundamental difference you're missing here though.

The vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, etc all have decades of proven effectiveness behind them and despite the stupid anti-vaxxer (I mean the real anti-vaxxer movement) arguments about autism, etc there's no scientific link whatsoever. And nor has there been the massive movement to completely ostracize and strip people of their livelihoods or freedoms for those positions which are far less justified than being concerned over the covid vaccines.

And in just months after the rollouts of these covid vaccines the concerns a great number of people have had are borne out. Contrary to what was pushed in the media by both elected officials and bureaucrats from the CDC, NIH, etc the vaccines do not stop transmission. This is undeniable fact. Nor have the vaccines proven nearly as effective as they were initially touted and thus the push for multiple rounds of boosters. Additionally, when looking at young (under 25), healthy people covid has been proven to be little more than a cold or sinus infection while the aforementioned diseases we traditionally vaccinate for have mortality rates and extremely serious complications for survivors that are orders of magnitude higher than covid. And I'll have to go back and find the data but IIRC, the flu had a similar mortality rate for the elderly prior to effective vaccines being widely available.

Plus, the data has shown in the USA that 75% of covid deaths were in those over 65 and something like 80% of all covid deaths had 3 or more comorbidities. Mortality rates for those other diseases had very little to do with those factors other than they generally hit children extremely hard.

So why push a vaccine on the young when there's so little benefit for them and far greater risks, especially for boys?

And let's not forget the data which shows that if you've had covid and recovered you generally have far better and longer lasting protection from covid than the vaccines provide. But that's not talked about.

The bottom line is any dissent from the approved narrative, even by previously well-respected doctors and researchers has been quashed and the covidian mob has sought to ruin those people.

Well fck y'all for all that. There should be none of this "pandemic amnesty" for the covidian crowd.

You missed my entire point. I never said blindly get the Covid vaccine and like it.

You can do your due diligence and decline the vaccine for yourself and your children without sending a strong and obvious message to your child that doctors are idiots and pushing an agenda. Thus creating distrust and content for vaccines and doctors in them from the get go.

You can also be involved in outreach to get to answers in where the system did fail. But again, you can do so without sending a message to your child.

Now, if you want to send that message to your kid. Again, your choice. But don't be surprised when the anti vaccine, for all vaccines, increases.

I don't know about y'all, but this thread went exactly how I expected it to.

htxag09 said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I am curious do people get this sensitive about all vaccines doctors bring up these days or is it just covid.

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I have no issues with people doing their own research and due diligence. But it can't be argued that vaccines have historically been an absolute positive. I'm a little afraid of how vocal people are about doctors being idiots, pushing vaccines because of $$$, eating up propaganda, etc., etc. and how that translates to the next generation.

We already have a potential resurgence of things like polio because of antivaccine movements. And, just like everything else, the people behind those movements absolutely believe they are right and doctors are wrong. With a good chunk of the next generation constantly hearing their parents undermine doctors and medicine, it would be shocking of that antivaccine movement doesn't continue to grow.

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Whooping cough and other easily preventable things too. I keep hearing about how the vaccine doesn't work since vaxed folks are still testing positive (though not going to the hospital or dying) but I've learned that even polio, whooping cough, anything else, isn't 100% effective but if it's effective enough to prevent a good amount of infections then it won't spread and will die out.

It's nice not not have to wear masks everywhere and go to concerts etc now that the vax is widely available.