I 10000% support his message for Californians to flee to another place besides Texas.

And for the love of god, do not get on there and correct him.

Yes, we should encourage this line of thinking.

Spot on. Texas is horrible. Definitely do not come here.

Property tax is a scam. I'll give them that.

I'm more interested in how he believes we could have "prevented" the snow storm?

Too much of a poosay to live here. Take your ass back to Cali.

jayelbee said:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/lx6xqs/for_those_thinking_of_moving_from_the_bay_to/

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Fast forward to today, we moved to Texas because of the dream. This dream says:

more money in your pocket
bigger house
cheaper cost of living
California wages, with Texas living
This is a no-brainer! So I thought...

Here are the reasons why you should think twice before moving here.



1. No state tax looses its luster when Property tax eats you alive. Remember that I came from Walnut Creek and the average home is about $690k. Take a home worth $650k in WC, taxes would be about $5,500, whereas in Dallas it's $12,500k.

2. Say goodbye to day trips. National parks, beaches, hiking are far a few. Say you live in either Dallas, San Antonio or Austin. Now look on a map...where are you going to go for day trips? There are no places to visit outside your area like there are in California. Beaches suck. Galveston is trashy and the only real beach worth visiting.

3. They will not pay you. You better hope to God that you keep your California wage. If you lose it, and have to get a Texas wage...welp have fun with all that.

4. Allergy suffers will hate it here. I know California has some air quality issues, but I never suffered from allergies until I moved here. Medicine doesn't work. I am doubling up on nasal and pills. Texas ranks very high for allergy sufferers. But what's funny, is that I didn't have allergy problems until I moved here.

5. Food is just bad...I mean bad. Outside of BBQ and Tex mex, Texas has limited food choices. If you are used to having quality food choices from different ethnic groups, you can forget about that here. A lot of chains.

6. Not a forward thinking State. I think you've seen how Texas has handled the mask mandate...oh by the way, Texas is now lifting their mask mandate and opening 100%, yet Texas is ranked 45th in vaccines administered. Also, read up on how they handled the snow storm and how they could have prevented it.

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This guy is a moron. He says our worst beach in the state is the only one worth visiting, and he can't find ethnic food. It reads like a bot that scraped google for complaints about Texas. Hopefully his plea works and they stay the hell out.

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Here's a list of all the home for sale in Walnut Creek, CA, for $650K and under:
















Let me expand the search. Here's a list of all the Walnut Creek, CA, homes for sale under $800K:











No, I didn't forget to add the links.




I think we're done here.

So, $6000 in additional annual property tax versus what in state income tax for someone who can make payments on a $650K home?

$6000/$150,000 (throwing up an income number here)x 100 = 4%

What is the state/local income tax in Cali? Turns out in this bracket it is about $850 plus 6% over $34,000 (rounded some here). 150,000-34,000 x .06 = ~7,000 + 850. So, in Cali, this would have been $7,850 in income taxes versus $6,000 in texas property taxes in our hypothetical.

I haven't looked at sales taxes and local taxes, but clearly, overall, Texas is not worse on taxes.

MouthBQ98 said:

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So, $6000 in additional annual property tax versus what in state income tax for someone who can make payments on a $650K home?

$6000/$150,000 (throwing up an income number here)x 100 = 4%

What is the state/local income tax in Cali?

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It is bracketed like federal income taxes but is over 9% at $59k for single and $117k for married filing jointly

Oops, I may have used old data.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Oops, I may have used old data.

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My "username checks out" but I don't even do taxes. Just found this on google search.

California state tax rates

LOL, I am a native Texan, born and raised in Houston. I lived for about 2 1/2 years in New Orleans and I lived for 1 1/2 years in Walnut Creek (from 2006 till 2007). I was there to work on a project for Chevron.

I absolutely loved Walnut Creek. Amazing place, very beautiful. Iron Horse trail, central Walnut Creek (shopping/restaurants). We had an Aggie group that would meet at Stadium Pub to watch Aggie basketball and football. Some of the Aggies worked at Pixar. About 45 minute drive to Napa. Yosemite not far away. Ride the BART to San Francisco. The weather was amazing. I had a Jeep Wrangler at the time and I once went from March until September with the top down. Fun times.

That said, it is so damn expensive there. This is housing, gas, groceriers, etc. Ridiculous. I thought I had calculated what I would need in salary to move there, I was so wrong. I lived in an older, but nice, 1 1/2 bedroom apartment. My three bedroom house in Houston is a lower mortgage than my apartment rent was.

Of course I am much happier here in Houston with my friends and family, but Walnut Creek is a beautiful place, still have friends there.

The guy who wrote that saying he doesn't have more money in his pocket, I don't understand. I can tell you I actually have money to do a lot more things here and I travel to nice beaches if I want.

I fully support his intentions. Californians, most especially Californians prone to believing stuff like that should stay.

Any Texans that find his complaints compelling should move to California as well. The Uhaul rates are dirt cheap.

The lack of human sh*t on the sidewalks is a culture shock

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LOL, I am a native Texan, born and raised in Houston. I lived for about 2 1/2 years in New Orleans and I lived for 1 1/2 years in Walnut Creek (from 2006 till 2007). I was there to work on a project for Chevron.

I absolutely loved Walnut Creek. Amazing place, very beautiful. Iron Horse trail, central Walnut Creek (shopping/restaurants). We had an Aggie group that would meet at Stadium Pub to watch Aggie basketball and football. Some of the Aggies worked at Pixar. About 45 minute drive to Napa. Yosemite not far away. Ride the BART to San Francisco. The weather was amazing. I had a Jeep Wrangler at the time and I once went from March until September with the top down. Fun times.

That said, it is so damn expensive there. This is housing, gas, groceriers, etc. Ridiculous. I thought I had calculated what I would need in salary to move there, I was so wrong. I lived in an older, but nice, 1 1/2 bedroom apartment. My three bedroom house in Houston is a lower mortgage than my apartment rent was.

Of course I am much happier here in Houston with my friends and family, but Walnut Creek is a beautiful place, still have friends there.

The guy who wrote that saying he doesn't have more money in his pocket, I don't understand. I can tell you I actually have money to do a lot more things here and I travel to nice beaches if I want.

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Weather, scenery, topography, climate, etc., California is just about as nice a place as you'll find in the world. Houston is at least in the bottom half on every one of those measures.

But mix in the people and you have an entirely different equation.

So this person, moving to a new state, did absolutely no research and didn't look at a map? Get the f*** out of here...plus a realtor with their salt would have educated this person on basics of property taxes and what that means. Or this person moves back.

The guy is trying to keep Californians from moving here. He truly has embraced being a Texan.

I also call major BS on the food. Unless you're in a podunk town you can easily find cuisine from pretty much every country and/or ethnic group imaginable. And it's usually done pretty well.

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I 10000% support his message for Californians to flee to another place besides Texas.

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Bingo. It takes a lot of dumbassery to screw up a paradise like California, but they've managed. Keep that ish quarantined.

First , let him go back.

Second, all of his gripes were easily researchable prior to moving. What kind of dumbass moves across the country without investigating tax structure, cost of living, and basic entertainment options.

Typical oblivious CA snob who looks down at everything else and how great his hellhole is because he's got some cool trees nearby.

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I'm more interested in how he believes we could have "prevented" the snow storm?

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Hate defending the guy, but pretty sure he is talking about how we could have prevented the craptastic shutdowns, which is true.

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StillNotAnAggie said:

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I'm more interested in how he believes we could have "prevented" the snow storm?

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Hate defending the guy, but pretty sure he is talking about how we could have prevented the craptastic shutdowns, which is true.

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At best, that's a push with California.

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Property tax is a scam. I'll give them that.

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Yes it is. Absolute garbage system that means you never really own outright land or property in Texas because even if the mortgage is paid off, the state can come and take it from you over lack of property tax payments.

Only thing you pay tax on annually, even after you have paid tax on it already.

My tax burden went up moving from AZ to Texas, and that was with AZ having property and income tax and my house in Texas being worth less market value than my house in AZ at the time.

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schmellba99 said:

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StillNotAnAggie said:

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I'm more interested in how he believes we could have "prevented" the snow storm?

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Hate defending the guy, but pretty sure he is talking about how we could have prevented the craptastic shutdowns, which is true.

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At best, that's a push with California.

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Yes and no. CA has power issues because they won't build new plants. We had issues because our plants did not adequately prepare or were adequately designed for a cold like we experienced.

I'll take a head-to-head death toll comparison between the Texas and California grids any day.

Mark Turgeon is that you ??? whine, whine, sniffle, sniffle...........

Their comment about food is as idiotic as it gets.

1. Texas BBQ and Mexican food by themselves are worth more than any combination of top level food from anywhere else in the world.

2. We have every single tiny variation of Asian and Asian fusion in every major city in Texas.

3. We have every single tiny variation of Indian and Indian fusion in every major city in Texas.

4. We have the best Central American, South American, and latin food and its not close. Especially in Houston.

5. We have better steakhouses at a more affordable price than they could dream of.

6. We have Jamaican, soul, South African, Ethiopian, and pretty much every European style.

7. While likely way behind California, we have a huge "health food" and "vegan" market, which is probably what this person was looking for most.

Don't be mad that we have the best real food and its harder to find your impossible burger and fru fru high end veggie fusion hipster restaurants.

We should get this guy to run commercials in California for us.

I love this guy, he is doing the Lord's work. I just hope it goes viral somehow and more Californians see it.

They do not even touch us on food. It's not even close. We beat them in every single category, outside of the fru fru sh** you mentioned. Which this guy clearly had to be talking about. I always thought they would have us in the sushi dept, considering the Japanese population and influence, but even that is just as good here, from my experience.

MouthBQ98 said:

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So, $6000 in additional annual property tax versus what in state income tax for someone who can make payments on a $650K home?

$6000/$150,000 (throwing up an income number here)x 100 = 4%

What is the state/local income tax in Cali? Turns out in this bracket it is about $850 plus 6% over $34,000 (rounded some here). 150,000-34,000 x .06 = ~7,000 + 850. So, in Cali, this would have been $7,850 in income taxes versus $6,000 in texas property taxes in our hypothetical.

I haven't looked at sales taxes and local taxes, but clearly, overall, Texas is not worse on taxes.

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The data is a couple of years old, but it looks like the bottom 60% of earners come out a little bit ahead in California.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Oops, I may have used old data.

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My "username checks out" but I don't even do taxes. Just found this on google search.

California state tax rates

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What's K lot mentioned is that you also have county and city income taxed as well so that 9% rate could be 11%