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Was that a real lynching? What are the details?

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no, it was just a staged photo.

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Again, it's his business and if we don't like it, then we can go elsewhere.

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A point which I ALSO made. Reread my original post.

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I think the picture offensive because of it's subject matter - a photo of a lynching/hanging does not belong in a family restaurant. So I'll avoid his BBQ joint. His prerogative to keep it, mine to go somewhere else. I'm ok with that and neither one of us needs to be put out over it. On my part, I'm glad it made the news; we had a valuable family discussion and I know better than to visit a restaurant that I think would be a negative experience for my kids.

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I'm certainly not saying what anyone else's actions should be. We don't like it, we wont patronize his business, that's OUR choice. I think lynching (anyone) is just not a value I want my kids to have. Someone else felt the need to turn my response into a discussion about religion, Iran, etc.


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Again, I guess where Elsie/Oprah/Tine Town and I disagree is the idea that any recognition of issues with any culture is the equivalent to hate.

I don't want us to nuke the entire middle east by any stretch. I'd simply like for them to ease back on the acts and support of acts of terrorism, to treat women better, and to adopt more free thinking societies.

Do you believe by me saying that I wish that as a whole I wish the African American and Hispanic communities embraced education a bit more as part of their inherent culture implies that I "hate" them? Believing that seems to be absurd to me. White supremacists hate them as they want them dead, I simply want them to encourage their kids to value the importance of education a bit more.

Hating all individuals from a given culture is wrong. However, trying to put blinders on and pretend as if all cultures are created equal and there aren't some cultures that are significantly less constructive for the good of the global society we are currently living in is sweeping things under the rug and I believe that ironically in the long run it WILL lead to more suppressed hate between groups.

And I agree with everything you are saying. What I can't agree with is that having a picture glorifying killing by lynching is ok, fun, entertaining, acceptable, or (God forbid) even art. When we reach that point, then how are we really any better than the terrorist who teaches his children to hate all Americans, or any other person who lives off of hate?

All I can do is teach my kids the values that I think are important. That's my job.



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When we reach that point, then how are we really any better than the terrorist who teaches his children to hate all Americans, or any other person who lives off of hate?

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yes, yes we are. a single depiction and a global paradigm are two very different things.

Since some people apparently didn't see the news story, here's the poster in question:



I remember plenty of posters and tshirts with this theme in the early 80's. Questionable taste, but obviously not real.

It should be noted that few wartime propaganda posters really stand the test of time:




However, some are absolutely timeless:

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...killing by lynching is ok...

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Better not let your kids study American history! That was one way we used to execute criminals. OH NO!!!!!

BTW, the Iraqis did this to somone famous a few years back, maybe not. Maybe it was too barbaric to use a lynching in modern times. I think they used lethal injections instead....


"Aggies don't lie, cheat, or steal, nor do they tolerate those who do!" - Aggie Code of Honor

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What I can't agree with is that having a picture glorifying killing by lynching is ok, fun, entertaining, acceptable, or (God forbid) even art.

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I have no issue with this. If I owned a food joint I certainly wouldn't have a picture like this up, I agree the picture is in poor taste and it makes the owner look simplistic. However, I'm also not on the other extreme in thinking the news media needs to be alerted about it either as a lot of places do/show dumb things that I think are in poor taste, but that's their prerogative.

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but that's their prerogative.

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"Aggies don't lie, cheat, or steal, nor do they tolerate those who do!" - Aggie Code of Honor

Thanks to the attention ***** who wanted to get his name in the news, this BBQ joint has crap tons of business and free publicity.

By attempting to undermine this guy, he helped him immensely. I love this story on several levels.

i love this story. in such a conservative area of town like katy, this is certainly skyrocketing his sales. liberal media depicting racism completely blew up in their faces.

Blue star for Mr. Nomacher! The guy is not backing down or apologizing for something that is totally within his rights. Good grief,it is a war poster and part of the history of this country. Let's not try to change history, or act like it never happened. We didn't become the greatest country ever to exist with out there being some bloodshed along the way. Don't bury your head in the sand and pretend not to recognize violence in our history. No one said our founders or those before us did things perfectly, but this ratinale that any of us have to apologize for it is LUDACRIS! No one is advocating or depicting Iranians as a whole as bad people, nor advocating violence against them. You don't have to agree with the poster! Just accept it as a sign of the times, and move on.

And if you drove by Nomachers on Saturday like I did you saw the line of people out into the parking lot waiting to eat. The guy got way more out of this than the people who were trying to tarnish his reputation!

Iranian-American culture does not = Theocratic Iranian culture. You will be hard pressed to find a "radical" muslim Persian people in the states.. hell I bet most of them haven't even been to a mosque.


Nonmachers has a solid bbq sandwich. The tamale lady died though and that was the best thing they had going for them.

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Heck I would go even further with that and say more than half of Iran doesn't even like/agree with the Theocratic regime in Iran. But the stranglehold on power is so out of reach that they almost had a civil war during the so called recent election (which many believe was rigged in favor of incumbents).

Is this better?

I wonder how comfortable residents would be with posters mocking the confederate army?

They were an equally backwards group....except they lost the only war they fought.

wouldnt work in katy, but up north he'd be making a killing. it's called knowing your target demographic

Not bad bbq either.

Stupid liberal pc soft race baiting morons are doing nothing but increasing this dudes sales.

Wish he had a one of those Simpsons t-shirts that read "Ayatollah Assaholea!"


"Aggies don't lie, cheat, or steal, nor do they tolerate those who do!" - Aggie Code of Honor

The guys in the picture were all from Houston. A lot of DJs.