Cy-Fair Residents: Proposed Budget cuts...

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AgMarauder04
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20 million health plan
9.24 million Reduce central office administrators and other central office expenditures These folks will be absorbed into schools where there are vacancies. They will not be fired.
10.7 million The District is changing with a state waiver the elementary ration of 22:1 to 25:1
1.10 million reduce support personnel That is grounds workers and maintenance, etc
4.0 million reduce in electricity cost
2.0 million raised by Club Rewind which will reduce our cut
.5 million reduction in sub allocation that principals get every year. We use those to send teachers to meetings, to do the team planning days, subs for ARDs,
etc. Those days will mostly be gone.
1.12 million operations cost reduction (custodians amount of square feet to clean, etc.)
.413 million reduction in selected stipends (I don't know what that means.)

This is a reduction of 49.073 million dollars. The plan is to use 19.776 million reduction from the fund balance (District's saving account) to get us to a 68 million dollar reduction if the District needs that much
tylercsbn9
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So how many teacher cuts will there be as a result?
62strat
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?
tylercsbn9
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I'm pretty sure it is legit. My gf just texted me about it this morning. She teaches in Cy Fair.
AgMarauder04
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IF this holds, and the state doesn't slash the budget even more...NONE.

The CRAP is that HISD is only facing $65M in cuts...we are facing $68M and we are MUCH smaller.
AgMarauder04
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strat, this is an email from my principal after her meeting last night.
tylercsbn9
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So why is Cy Fair facing more cuts? They just did a crap job budgeting? Or they don't want to cut HISD as much b/c it would be "racist"?

Regardless she's looking at Tomball and Klein b/c she's moving in with me and those districts are closer. She's in her second year at the district and has received some solid reviews. They have teachers that are complete screw ups, but apparently it is based on seniority. SO she could be screwed.

[This message has been edited by tylercsbn9 (edited 3/8/2011 9:12a).]
AgMarauder04
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Flawed funding model is my guess. CFISD is already the lowest funded per student district in the area.
tamulax33
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elementary ratio of 22:1 to 25:1


I hate this. Young children have the most potential and we are huddling them together like cattle. Why not increase student to teacher ratio in high schools when they are about to exit... instead of when they start.
AgMarauder04
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Because in our district anyway, Middle Schools and High Schools have been slowly increasing class sizes to account for the past $70M of cuts...secondary has borne the brunt of class size increase for the past 4 years.
tylercsbn9
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So how can they increase the class size without cutting teachers in elementary?

My gf teachers kinder btw
Buck Turgidson
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"The District is changing with a state waiver the elementary ration of 22:1 to 25:1"

Yet another reason we are looking at private schools, or just plain moving out of CFISD.
AgMarauder04
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Buck, that's fine, but I would recommend private, this budget issue is not unique toCy-Fair...CFISD is going to be able to weather this without firing teachers (which would have the same effect on class sizes) like HISD (losing 1200 teachers).

Tyler, MANY teachers in CFISD are retirement age, and others are leaving for other districts, quitting teaching, etc. Basically, instead of hiring more teachers, the district takes teachers on "excess lists" and reassigns them to different campuses. It's happening to me this year.

[This message has been edited by AgMarauder04 (edited 3/8/2011 10:03a).]
tylercsbn9
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Well that should help alleviate her fears a little.

It's complete crap that they use seniority in these things. She had a glowing review from an observer that works for the district. The lady was shocked that this was my gf's first year teaching kinder (she taught SPED her first year).

She's interested in going elsewhere, but had accepted the fact she may be at the current school a while. The admin at said school is pretty horrid, so she wanted to go somewhere else.

Sounds like Klein is in a similar situation based on speaking with some of my coworkers. They cancelled a job fair. They have a new elementary opening up close to my house, so they obviously have to hire for that, but I would guess they'll just balance their current staff and not hire new teachers.

I'm not sure what type of situation Tomball is in. There will be a new elementary I think....but it isn't opening until fall 2012.

She just wants to get to a school that has some competent admins, but she had pretty much accepted the fact that she'll be at her current school. Now hopefully that will remain the case with these budget cuts.

As an add on....it just amazes me that people don't know how to budget. It is at every level. School....local govt....state govt.....federal govt...etc. It is fricking baffling.

[This message has been edited by tylercsbn9 (edited 3/8/2011 10:14a).]
megs
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Private school
springagg
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Why budget?? Just spend until there is no more and you are far in debt.. its the American way! Seriously, I don't get it either. Its simple, budget and spend less than you take in! Social security = people are too stupid to save for retirement. SO lets makes everyone pay and we may give it back to you later when you are old! How about I keep my own money, and invest it for my retirement the way I wish! Escrow on mortgage = too stupid to save money to pay taxes and insurance on your own so we must hold it for you. I could go on and on.. but every program is based on people not knowing how to live within their means! The best part is those of us that do budget and live within our means eventually end up paying in some sort of tax for all those people that don't.
Gap
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9.24 million Reduce central office administrators and other central office expenditures. These folks will be absorbed into schools where there are vacancies.


Why would they force these headquarters adminstrators into schools instead of hiring people that are teaching? What is best for the children?

AgMarauder04
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Gap:

Many of thse positions are support personnel from the different curriculum departments....people who help with analysis, helping teachers, and do student pullouts. We aren't expecting a random assistant superintendent or a secretary to teach math. We are taking some of the district level instructional specialists to go BACK to the classroom. SOME support personnel like secretaries and certain other positions WILL likely be eliminated.

Spring, this budget IS balanced. It has been for YEARS. It has been balanced in a way that we have been actually adding to a district savings account, which will help cover the shortfall this year.
Guitarsoup
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and do student pullouts.


Pullouts shouldn't be part of the student curriculum. Condoms and abstinence are far more effective.
AgMarauder04
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62strat
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.413 million reduction in selected stipends (I don't know what that means.)
A stipend is extra pay for a something extra an employee does.. ie. teacher getting a masters degree, be a team leader, mentor a new teacher etc.
MrJonMan
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My girlfriend is a 3rd grade teacher in CFISD....I keep giving her hell about being canned.

God I hope it doesn't. Really happen....of course I already told her she isn't moving in with me & I'm not giving her a dime. Poors
AgMarauder04
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strat, what she meant was the district did not specify WHICH stipends are being cut.

For instance: Next year I am SUPPOSED to receive a $2K stipend for masters and $1.5K stipend for coaching football.

No word yet on if either will still be there, or amount if they are still around.
62strat
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ahh i got ya.

oh well, losing a $2K/ yr. raise obviously beats losing job.
AgMarauder04
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This is true.
Buck Turgidson
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AgMarauder04: That is our strong preference, but we'll have to pay for three kids all the way from pre-K through 12th grade (then college). That's a steep tab at most of the better private schools.
AgMarauder04
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Makes sense, Buck, just make sure you do your research. CFISD has been preparing for awhile, so we are in decent shape...just make sure other districts are in good shape before
you go. Our district is hosting several info meetings about the budget...you should look for that offering in surrounding districts before you pull the trigger.
Dr. Doctor
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My only questions is this: Why is CF being discussed on a Houston board? Can't you take it to the South Dallass board?




Sorry, I am kidding.
terradactylexpress
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Cy fair isn't even in the direction of Dallas.

South college station or east Austin would have been better. Not much but better
Buck Turgidson
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AgMarauder04: Our public school choices have been narrowed down to the attendance zone for Frostwood or Bunker Hill El./Memorial MS/Memorial HS OR The Woodlands. Both options have strengths & weaknesses. If anybody has feedback on the future of either, I'm open to it.

There are several other good public school options in the metro area that we ruled out because of non-academic criteria (job locations, etc.).

BTW, I don't so much have a problem with CFISD in general, just the CFISD schools serving our neighborhood. There's a reason why at least half the kids in my neighborhood attend private schools. I'm sure the schools serving Blackhorse, Bridgelands, Longwood etc. are fine.

[This message has been edited by Buck Turgidson (edited 3/9/2011 12:24p).]
Gap
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What elemetary are you zoned to?
AgMarauder04
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I would be interested too...

All the schools are different, based on a variety of different factors...

Basically, you want the elementary schools and middle schools that feed from or to the following Middle Schools:

Aragon
Spillane
Goodson
Salyards
Hamilton

Those are the top.

Buck Turgidson
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[This message has been edited by Buck Turgidson (edited 3/14/2011 12:49p).]
FarmerJohn
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rough demographic mix sent the neighborhood parents off to search for private options.

It's the rough demographic that will usually do it. One year a rough area gets drawn into a schools boundary and it snowballs in a hurry. Smae dynamic happens in neighborhoods. A neighborhood will take a certain number of low income but once you hit a certain threshold (I think 10%), it almost flips overnight.
agracer
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several private schools get so many kids from our neighborhood that they've scheduled daily bus service to our rec center

You mean they don't stop at EVERY CORNER of every street to pick kids up and instead require them to....GASP....WALK more than 50-feet to the bus stop ! OHHH...what about the Children!!!!
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