I just went and voted at Rock Prairie Elementary school. While leaving I see John Happ drive up in an A&M logoed vehicle. He drops off a guy and a kid who start waving Happ signs at traffic, says thanks for voting to me and drives off. Does anyone know if he is allowed to drive an A&M vehicle while he is out doing personal business? Seems not right to me.
John Happ Question
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There's a scandal afoot...
33.04 Use of System Property
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No TAMUS employee shall use any vehicle owned by TAMUS for any purpose other than official business of TAMUS. Employees may not use such vehicles in connection with any political campaign or for any personal or recreational activity including transportation to and from work on a daily basis; however, a vehicle may be driven to an employee’s home and retained overnight on specific occasions when doing so allows the employee to effect significant time or cost savings or meet a specific out-of-town appointment to conduct System business.
Oh, and where where they dropped off at/waving signs? I could've sworn that there's no campaigning allowed at polling locations.
They had the Happ signs out along Welsh where all the other political signs were located, so that's not an issue.
Yeah. But to answer the other, there's the System rule on it. I've worked for TAMUS in one capacity or another since 1994 and the one thing that was always hammered home was using vehicles for personal needs.
So who do I complain to? I don't think it's right and I don't think he is above the rules because he is on the City Council.
no its now allowed. it would have helped if you got the licence plate or vehicle number. each dept is supposed to keep logs on each vehicle on where it went, miles drive & who drove.
Thanks, fly. Report sent.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
As Director of Aviation at Easterwood Airport and charged with general management of the facility 24/7/365, I do not doubt that TAMU has granted John Happ special dispensation for use of his assigned vehicle at and and all times. By nature of his responsibilities at the field, I do not doubt that he is required to immediately respond to the field in the event of inflight emergencies, critical ground situations and passenger handling problems. (Sort of on par with a city fire chief, police chief or mayor.)
No harm done in making the report however.
No harm done in making the report however.
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Quadruple post! ($%^#&* error message)
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Perhaps a set of new instructions needs to be developed for the new and improved Forum. The old way do not seem to work. @#^&%*!!@ error messages.
I was thinking the same thing, fossil_ag.
If he's required to respond to emergencies 24/7 and if he's been assigned a vehicle for that purpose what happens if he's in a personal car and an emergency takes place? Does he have to drive back home to get his official vehicle?
I've noticed the logoed Easterwood vehicle in the parking lot at city council meetings and I thought this was probably the reason. I could be wrong.
I also agree that inappropriate use of state property should be reported. But was that the case here?
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If he's required to respond to emergencies 24/7 and if he's been assigned a vehicle for that purpose what happens if he's in a personal car and an emergency takes place? Does he have to drive back home to get his official vehicle?
I've noticed the logoed Easterwood vehicle in the parking lot at city council meetings and I thought this was probably the reason. I could be wrong.
I also agree that inappropriate use of state property should be reported. But was that the case here?
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I think fossil drove the point home.
Come to think of it, at Council meetings I have seen his Easterwood truck parked "backed-in", i.e. he when leaving the parking space he would have to put it in drive and move forward.
I wonder if this has anything to do with emergency response preparedness. If he's an aviator they do every little minute thing by the book...I wonder if this carries over to parking his land vehicle.
Anyone else noticed this at city hall?
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I wonder if this has anything to do with emergency response preparedness. If he's an aviator they do every little minute thing by the book...I wonder if this carries over to parking his land vehicle.
Anyone else noticed this at city hall?
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txdragonfly,
Since this topic was brought up, I’ve often wondered something about other equipment purchased with tax dollar moneys, such as computers used during working hours. I’m sure someone working for a government agency probably brings their personal laptop up to work to post on Texags during their breaks, right?
Spelling corrected.
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Yeah. But to answer the other, there's the System rule on it. I've worked for TAMUS in one capacity or another since 1994 and the one thing that was always hammered home was using vehicles for personal needs.
Since this topic was brought up, I’ve often wondered something about other equipment purchased with tax dollar moneys, such as computers used during working hours. I’m sure someone working for a government agency probably brings their personal laptop up to work to post on Texags during their breaks, right?
Spelling corrected.
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There's this incidental use rule. Some just stretch the meaning of incidental.
Of course they do.
fossil ag = John Happ
I know John Happ. John Happ is a friend of mine. I am no John Happ.
Some people get really over zealous on the state car rule. I once was at taco cabana with a state car getting ready to leave town on state business. Someone there is like you can't use a state car to get fast food.
OK, so the next three days I'm on a state trip, I can't eat ? Or I need to park the car at the hotel and walk to eat ?
OK, so the next three days I'm on a state trip, I can't eat ? Or I need to park the car at the hotel and walk to eat ?
Dis, that's different. You're on state business in that case (though I know there are those who would see the vehicle and file a report; in which case, System Audit investigates and finds no wrong doing and you likely never even knew they were investigating). When I worked at UPD, I was assigned to help Det Linder with processing System Audit reports that came over. That's when I learned about their volume (it can get pretty high) and how most of the incidents are rarely ever turned over for full investigation, because they're unfounded or insufficient in evidence.
If I'm traveling in state, I usually get a rental for reimbursement instead of taking one of ours. It saves headaches of running short of vehicles for those who need them to run across town for meetings and I avoid feeling guilty stopping for dinner on the way to Austin in a state vehicle.
If I'm traveling in state, I usually get a rental for reimbursement instead of taking one of ours. It saves headaches of running short of vehicles for those who need them to run across town for meetings and I avoid feeling guilty stopping for dinner on the way to Austin in a state vehicle.
I certainly wasn't trying to be over zealous. If Mr. Happ is allowed to use his vehicle 24/7/365 becasue he may be needed at the airport on short notice, then I understand that. If he was abusing his position and his benefits, then he should be investigated.