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New ME office tours

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PS3D
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They did tours today at the new medical examiners office (another tour will be done on the 29th), got to see the facilities and even briefly met the new medical examiner.

It's not quite like TV, the morgue doesn't have drawers and the actual examination room is flooded with light.
EBrazosAg
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Do the math on the project and come back with the per SF cost now that it's finished. Seems to me it was ridiculous when I did it in the back of a napkin before they broke ground. I haven't seen numbers since ….i seem to remember it being 40-50% higher than what a hospital would cost to build.
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doubledog
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NCIS and similar television programs have ruined the authentic science of forensics. IMHO
BCSWguru
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we needed a ME office for decades. hope to catch a tour.
AgGunNut
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Check the County Facebook page. They are doing a second date soon. After that, public tours will be pretty much nonexistent once they are operational.
oklaunion
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Is there a statue of Mooney inside?
PS3D
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EBrazosAg said:

Do the math on the project and come back with the per SF cost now that it's finished. Seems to me it was ridiculous when I did it in the back of a napkin before they broke ground. I haven't seen numbers since ….i seem to remember it being 40-50% higher than what a hospital would cost to build.

It's not a hospital, though. It would be like if you ran the numbers for square feet of a Home Depot versus a restaurant, of course on a square foot basis the restaurant would be more expensive.
woodometer
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I'm sure it is very nice and will be very helpful to our local community. My question is since the Brazos County taxpayers payed for this project with redirected covid funds and supplemented with the general fund will Brazos County cases get first priority. I am sure that they will be taking outside cases to fund the place.
Aggie@state.gov
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Second date is the 29th
AgGunNut
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The current staffing approved by commissioners will not allow for doing out of county autopsies. Possibly in the future as staff increases.
EBrazosAg
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So should a doctor office for dead people cost 50% more than a hospital for those you hope to keep out of the office for the dead ?
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EBrazosAg
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There is no way that the current Brazos Co volume will outpace the capacity of the minimum staffing for a ME office. If it does we are in the realm of Groucho Marx and we don't want to be a member of the club that would have us as a member.
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MiMi
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EBrazosAg said:

So should a doctor office for dead people cost 50% more than a hospital for those you hope to keep out of the office for the dead ?


That is a good question. Where can we research the costs of the new ME facility compared to a local hospital?

Also, is there an estimate of the time savings of now having an ME locally compared to having to transport bodies to Austin for examination?
PS3D
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MiMi said:


Also, is there an estimate of the time savings of now having an ME locally compared to having to transport bodies to Austin for examination?



I think they said it would go from a week to less than 48 hours.

EBrazosAg said:

So should a doctor office for dead people cost 50% more than a hospital for those you hope to keep out of the office for the dead ?

Well, they're not the same thing, just like a hospital isn't an office building. It would be a better comparison to another medical examiners' office.

Next week they'll be doing another open house, that sounds like something you could ask.
AgGunNut
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One doctor, one operations manager, one autopsy tech, one admin assistant, two death investigators. Factor in things like 24/7 scene response, sick/vacation leave, and required training. I think you'll quickly be shown wrong.
EBrazosAg
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The relatively recently big push for the office was through the BVCOG to make it easier for surrounding rural counties to get their ME work done. I'm surprised if that dropped out as a reason for building it out … disappointed too. I guess the Covid funding made the BVCOG support less compelling.
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woodometer
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AgGunNut said:

The current staffing approved by commissioners will not allow for doing out of county autopsies. Possibly in the future as staff increases.

I feel a bit misled. Seems like when the County Judge was justifying the need for this facility he often cited the delays our county and the surrounding counties had getting service out of Austin and that this would serve the Brazos Valley area and speed up that problem. So other than crimes what percentage of all of the deaths in Brazos County require an autopsy?
AgGunNut
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Part of why an autopsy is done is to help rule out a crime when one isn't obvious, so many unattended deaths result in an autopsy. Keep in mind, people don't just die in a hospital or nursing home with an attending physician.

Now, instead of a Justice of the Peace going to a death and requesting an autopsy be done by an outside authority, the local ME's office will respond and determine if an autopsy will be done under those same criteria where a JP was responding.

There is a substantial delay when working with Travis County, which serves about 50 counties. But the "Brazos Valley" will not be served by the Brazos ME, at least initially. Only Brazos County.
Kbeauty63
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woodometer said:

I'm sure it is very nice and will be very helpful to our local community. My question is since the Brazos County taxpayers payed for this project with redirected covid funds and supplemented with the general fund will Brazos County cases get first priority. I am sure that they will be taking outside cases to fund the place.


I went - and someone asked about other county cases. The gentleman who was leading our tour said that once they got all procedures down that yes, that was part of the overall plan (to help near by counties) so they didn't have to send to Austin
mason12
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I would say if you want the Brazos County ME's Office to help surrounding counties then you need to let the county commissioners and the county judge know. They need more staff to be able to handle the basic on-call schedule for Brazos County cases.
AgGunNut
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I'm not sure who you spoke with, but none of the staff are males. I've spoken with the staff. Outside Brazos County won't be happening with the staffing level they have right now. Maybe once procedures are down pat it could be easier to conceive, but the simple fact of needing someone available 24/7 just to let another county bring a body (via funeral home since Brazos ME won't be responding out of county to pick up/investigate at the scene) is a burden not many employees will just keep doing in perpetuity with such small numbers of staff.

Currently, the plan seems to be that all staff will be rotating on-call duties, not just the investigators. That's 6 to rotate right now, if the manager, doctor, admin assistant, and tech jump in to help the two field investigators. What happens when there's more than one death at a time (which isn't uncommon). What happens when someone gets sick? Needs to go on vacation? Is an admin assistant and tech going to even have the same training as the field investigators? Is it fair to ask two investigators to literally live their whole life on call? Those are hard questions to just cover Brazos, much less the surrounding area.
MiMi
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Just got back from taking the tour. Very interesting.

I really didn't expect many people to show up, but the line was out the door when I left. The tours go until 2 today, then the building will be closed to the public.
Aggie@state.gov
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Just left also! Very surprised by the crowd size.

What a huge facility. Their initial staff is 6 but they have room for 30 employees
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