Aggieland
Sponsored by

Legal issues for Bryan's Midtown Park Development?

12,550 Views | 82 Replies | Last: 1 mo ago by doubledog
EliteElectric
How long do you want to ignore this user?
phillytex24 said:

What I was really excited about was the original idea of creating a food hall on the property next to Post Oak Mall. A place where local restaurants and food vendors could rent their own space, giving people dozens of different options under one roof, sounds like something our community could really enjoy.

Can't share the emails or details but we won that job and were beginning to mobilize on it when we were issued a stop work notice by the developer/ potential owner. We were told the city intentionally killed the deal because they were interested in that property.
www.elitellp.net/

BQ_90
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
is this the same building that was supposed to be the indoor tennis facility for Aggie Tennis?
Omperlodge
How long do you want to ignore this user?
BQ_90 said:

is this the same building that was supposed to be the indoor tennis facility for Aggie Tennis?

It is not. That was cancelled before it even started. This was bowling and movies.
GSS
How long do you want to ignore this user?
doubledog said:

EBrazosAg said:

Says the man with fingers crossed since he enthusiastically voted for the project in 22 and $2 million loan in 24.

The CoB could lease out the space as is for $1/year for the next 2million years. That would recoup the money. ; )

Can you graze longhorns, on the green space around the building? If so, one elected official might be interested...
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
doubledog said:

EBrazosAg said:

Says the man with fingers crossed since he enthusiastically voted for the project in 22 and $2 million loan in 24.

The CoB could lease out the space as is for $1/year for the next 2million years. That would recoup the money. ; )

Maybe the mayor can graze his longhorns there.
EBrazosAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
For clarity- this is the old Sears Appliance and Repair building on Holleman , correct?

EliteElectric said:

phillytex24 said:

What I was really excited about was the original idea of creating a food hall on the property next to Post Oak Mall. A place where local restaurants and food vendors could rent their own space, giving people dozens of different options under one roof, sounds like something our community could really enjoy.

Can't share the emails or details but we won that job and were beginning to mobilize on it when we were issued a stop work notice by the developer/ potential owner. We were told the city intentionally killed the deal because they were interested in that property.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
EliteElectric
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Yes, was to be Union Oak FC IIRC
www.elitellp.net/

BlueMiles
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
EliteElectric said:

phillytex24 said:

What I was really excited about was the original idea of creating a food hall on the property next to Post Oak Mall. A place where local restaurants and food vendors could rent their own space, giving people dozens of different options under one roof, sounds like something our community could really enjoy.

Can't share the emails or details but we won that job and were beginning to mobilize on it when we were issued a stop work notice by the developer/ potential owner. We were told the city intentionally killed the deal because they were interested in that property.


That's just incredible. I believe you but what the heck, CS?
Buford T. Justice
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Workout a deal with Legends to take it on as overflow space for events.
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
EliteElectric said:

phillytex24 said:

What I was really excited about was the original idea of creating a food hall on the property next to Post Oak Mall. A place where local restaurants and food vendors could rent their own space, giving people dozens of different options under one roof, sounds like something our community could really enjoy.

Can't share the emails or details but we won that job and were beginning to mobilize on it when we were issued a stop work notice by the developer/ potential owner. We were told the city intentionally killed the deal because they were interested in that property.

It'll make a matched set with the Macy's across the street....
EliteElectric
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Hornbeck said:

It'll make a matched set with the Macy's across the street....

Yeah IIRC the food court was prior to, and also IIRC the CoCS didn't actually consummate the meddling by actually buying the property like it did with Macy's.


****ETA****

CoCS definitely seems to have an infatuation with the highlighted area

www.elitellp.net/

TexasAggie_02
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Maybe COCS can overpay for it and then sell it back to COB for a loss
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TexasAggie_02 said:

Maybe COCS can overpay for it and then sell it back to COB for a loss


Ooohhhhh, I see what you did there….

<cough> Chimney< cough> Hill <cough>
CaptTex
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'd support a large combined cycle unit or mixed unit generation station. The strange thing is, aside from the solar panel factory, they don't tend to want to attract anything else that is concrete.
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
CaptTex said:

I'd support a large combined cycle unit or mixed unit generation station. The strange thing is, aside from the solar panel factory, they don't tend to want to attract anything else that is concrete.


Because, apparently we have a bunch of (well-intentioned?) idiots running the show in both cities.

Who would have ever thunk that a tire shop guy and part time rancher would make bad decisions about loaning $2M to other long-time friends and son of other local business owners?!?

Also, who would have thought that a 80+ year old career professor who never had a job outside academia would not know how to run a business friendly city that attracted quality employers?

Man, this is a real head scratcher. /s
OGAG
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Loan was not paid on time

https://www.kbtx.com/2026/07/21/city-bryan-2m-loan-not-paid-by-schulmans-movie-bowl-grille-llc/
doubledog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Hornbeck said:

CaptTex said:

I'd support a large combined cycle unit or mixed unit generation station. The strange thing is, aside from the solar panel factory, they don't tend to want to attract anything else that is concrete.


Because, apparently we have a bunch of (well-intentioned? legacy oriented and resume padding) idiots running the show in both cities.

Who would have ever thunk that a tire shop guy and part time rancher would make bad decisions about loaning $2M to other long-time friends and son of other local business owners?!?

Also, who would have thought that a 80+ year old career professor who never had a job outside academia would not know how to run a business friendly city that attracted quality employers?

Man, this is a real head scratcher. /s

FIFY.
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
So, in this case, this city is out $2M. There are contractors who have not been paid for their work. There is a large half-finished eyesor..... errrrr.... building sitting there, right next to their shiny developments.

Which, I assume the taxpayers will be on the hook for the $2M.

For those playing along at home, EPMC (Mark Schulman) also runs the Palace and Queen for the City of Bryan.

Is there going to be any accountability for this? Will EPMC will continue to run the Palace and Queen, while owing the city $2M?

If only we had a hard hitting journalist in town to ask Andrew Nelson and Bobby G the hard questions. Man, If I was them, I might start floating some Open Records Requests to see CoB emails about this?

Man, this ball got thrown back from the cheap seats, didn't it?
EBrazosAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
All we got is rusty. If it ain't Trump, it don't lead.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
metroid_84
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Quote:

If only we had a hard hitting journalist in town to ask Andrew Nelson and Bobby G the hard questions. Man, If I was them, I might start floating some Open Records Requests to see CoB emails about this?


I expect KBTX has done this, as we know they've open-record-requested plenty of documents in previous stories, but respondents can delay and really string you along with that. The TAMUS board of regents are really dirty with callin' everything under the sun an 'HR matter' that doesn't have to be made available.
philothea
How long do you want to ignore this user?
So can I start calling that building Bryan's Macys yet?
b0ridi
How long do you want to ignore this user?
This. The governmental entity can dispute the records request and ask the TX AG office for a ruling on it. Whether the dispute is legitimate or not, that starts a process that's at least a few months long.
The Brazos Kid
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Hornbeck said:

So, in this case, this city is out $2M. There are contractors who have not been paid for their work. There is a large half-finished eyesor..... errrrr.... building sitting there, right next to their shiny developments.

Which, I assume the taxpayers will be on the hook for the $2M.

For those playing along at home, EPMC (Mark Schulman) also runs the Palace and Queen for the City of Bryan.

Is there going to be any accountability for this? Will EPMC will continue to run the Palace and Queen, while owing the city $2M?

If only we had a hard hitting journalist in town to ask Andrew Nelson and Bobby G the hard questions. Man, If I was them, I might start floating some Open Records Requests to see CoB emails about this?

Man, this ball got thrown back from the cheap seats, didn't it?


Paging Steve Fullhart.
Buford T. Justice
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
What does the Thai Tailor have to do with any of this?
Captn_Ag05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
What is the city's plan here?

Is the building large enough to house an indoor tennis complex since the other one planned for Midtown fell through as well?
Independence H-D
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Mayor was on the Infomaniacs this morning and discussed the Mid-Town situation. Interview will be posted at WTAW.com shortly.

Also, he announced that he will run for re-election.
GSS
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Independence H-D said:

Mayor was on the Infomaniacs this morning and discussed the Mid-Town situation. Interview will be posted at WTAW.com shortly.

Also, he announced that he will run for re-election.

Mayor said the Schulman operation "has hundreds of millions of dollars, invested in our community.." Hmmm..
So, not a problem to have an unfinished building, and a defaulted loan.
turfman80
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Hundreds of millions invested here? Shouldn't be a problem finding a way to pay a 2 million dollar loan.
AggiePhil
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Independence H-D said:

Mayor was on the Infomaniacs this morning and discussed the Mid-Town situation. Interview will be posted at WTAW.com shortly.

Also, he announced that he will run for re-election.

Which mayor and which Midtown? I didn't think Nichols or Gutierrez were running for reelection.
Captn_Ag05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Bryan. Mayor is running for reelection.
techno-ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The original Midtown.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
PS3D
How long do you want to ignore this user?
phillytex24 said:

I was surprised by the news they were creating a movie theater there in the first place. Movie attendance is a flop. I returned a few times this past year since the pandemic, and the theater was empty every time. There were only 3 to 5 people at each showing with me. The days of packed movie theaters are over. I'd rather stay home with my big-screen TV, my own food, and my PJs. It's simply a new era.

Ask yourself when the last truly good movie was released in theaters before making statements like "no one goes to movie theaters because of streaming".

EliteElectric said:

Can't share the emails or details but we won that job and were beginning to mobilize on it when we were issued a stop work notice by the developer/ potential owner. We were told the city intentionally killed the deal because they were interested in that property.

source: "trust me, bro"

Hornbeck said:

So, in this case, this city is out $2M. There are contractors who have not been paid for their work. There is a large half-finished eyesor..... errrrr.... building sitting there, right next to their shiny developments.

Which, I assume the taxpayers will be on the hook for the $2M.

For those playing along at home, EPMC (Mark Schulman) also runs the Palace and Queen for the City of Bryan.

Is there going to be any accountability for this? Will EPMC will continue to run the Palace and Queen, while owing the city $2M?

If only we had a hard hitting journalist in town to ask Andrew Nelson and Bobby G the hard questions. Man, If I was them, I might start floating some Open Records Requests to see CoB emails about this?

Man, this ball got thrown back from the cheap seats, didn't it?

You know the best part? It's not even the first time the Schulmans ran out on Bryan leaving an empty, unusable movie theater.
5thSergeantPumpkin
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm sure you'll disagree with me either way but Odyssey was a great experience in theaters
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Wow.

Something about history and repeating itself….
Page 2 of 3
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.