Ignore the way he looks. This guy is very interesting.
Oh, we don't have those around HERE. We voted against them!
https://deflock.me/map#map=12/30.592205/-96.314982
Post Reply
1 of 1
I thought traffic camera's were voted out in BCS?
2,614 Views |
18 Replies |
Last: 25 days ago by EFR
Ignore the way he looks. This guy is very interesting.
Oh, we don't have those around HERE. We voted against them!
https://deflock.me/map#map=12/30.592205/-96.314982
The cameras outlawed are red light cameras used to issue citations. These are not the same thing.
True, and I was being facetious.
These are better because they can be placed anywhere, use facial recognition, and can be purchased and monitored by HOA's and private companies, yet that data feeds into the whole database.
So your HOA president could feasibly follow you to Vegas and back and see what you were up to.
Just, for instance. Surely an HOA person wouldn't let this kind of power go to their head....
These are better because they can be placed anywhere, use facial recognition, and can be purchased and monitored by HOA's and private companies, yet that data feeds into the whole database.
So your HOA president could feasibly follow you to Vegas and back and see what you were up to.
Just, for instance. Surely an HOA person wouldn't let this kind of power go to their head....
Private entity scans may feed into a larger database if the entity chooses to do so, but the entity doesn't generally have access to the information other than what they collect. (I.E an HOA won't have access to what Home Depot scans) unless each entity chooses to do so. So no, the HOA isn't really tracking you on your road-trip to Vegas. Flock is pretty open about how their system operates.
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-massachusetts-and-updates
https://ij.org/press-release/public-interest-law-firm-responds-to-flock-safety-pausing-federal-access-to-license-plate-reader-cameras/
Even if Flock maintains a perfect level of security on their database (they probably won't) this is still a warrantless search. On everybody. Quite literally everyone that walks, drives, bicycles, or flaps their wings in front of a Flock camera is being served a search warrant in effect. Since any Law enforcement agency with access can use that data to put together a case against you. Whether you did something or not.
Its failsafe. Clearly.
https://ij.org/press-release/public-interest-law-firm-responds-to-flock-safety-pausing-federal-access-to-license-plate-reader-cameras/
Even if Flock maintains a perfect level of security on their database (they probably won't) this is still a warrantless search. On everybody. Quite literally everyone that walks, drives, bicycles, or flaps their wings in front of a Flock camera is being served a search warrant in effect. Since any Law enforcement agency with access can use that data to put together a case against you. Whether you did something or not.
Its failsafe. Clearly.
Over-reach certainly won't be an issue.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/texas-abortion-license-plate-camera-b2760411.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawN3pAFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETF6UzFQZFRNMk8wUU9CZFVEc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHoSedD6LMvmxzsud1pgmE7ZJZ173qsT5-30wNfzA7pIQOoh_xq_SjcCxiKA3_aem_DTDx7Qv7ry8d7RSFF6klaA
Change this headline to: College students go to Colorado and get high legally. Come home to find 5-0 in their driveway because the "family was worried".
This will not end well.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/texas-abortion-license-plate-camera-b2760411.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawN3pAFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETF6UzFQZFRNMk8wUU9CZFVEc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHoSedD6LMvmxzsud1pgmE7ZJZ173qsT5-30wNfzA7pIQOoh_xq_SjcCxiKA3_aem_DTDx7Qv7ry8d7RSFF6klaA
Change this headline to: College students go to Colorado and get high legally. Come home to find 5-0 in their driveway because the "family was worried".
This will not end well.
It is not a warrantless search. Federal district courts have ruled on cases using Flock that it does not violate the Fourth Amendment due to the images being captured in public areas where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Im not aware of any Texas case law indicating anything to the contrary. It's long been established in case law that license plates fall into this same category of diminished expectation of privacy due to them being visible in normal public purview.
Obviously, as time goes on, there could be court challenges that overturn the norm use of the Flock system (or competitors like Vigilant). But the fact remains, it is not currently a warrantless search. Have a great night.
Obviously, as time goes on, there could be court challenges that overturn the norm use of the Flock system (or competitors like Vigilant). But the fact remains, it is not currently a warrantless search. Have a great night.
Your Ring camera footage is now also available via Flock. Yes, the one you pay an annual subscription for.
Having a picture taken of your car as it drives down the road isn't remotely close to a warrantless search.
This is completely optional for the Ring user. You have to choose to do it on your own. I believe the sheriff's office posted about this a while back. The LE entity would send out a request to Ring users through the Neighbors app, and the Ring users could then voluntarily submit footage through that request. It's not some open-ended viewing of your video feed.
This is simply an automated version of walking door to door to canvas for video.
This is simply an automated version of walking door to door to canvas for video.
"George Orwell never imagined that people would willingly purchase and install the devices used to conduct surveillance on them." [/some guy on the internet a couple years ago]
Is my dash cam also a warrantless search?
Sweet Kitten Feet said:
Is my dash cam also a warrantless search?
Is your footage automatically uploaded to an AI the police can search?
cslifer said:
Having a picture taken of your car as it drives down the road isn't remotely close to a warrantless search.
Where does it cross the line though? In article posted above Johnson Co Sherrif's department tracked her out of their jurisdiction, and then completely out of the state, and in fact had queried the ENTIRE US-wide Flock network of cameras to find her where she had gone to get an abortion where it was legal.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/10/flock-safety-and-texas-sheriff-claimed-license-plate-search-was-missing-person-it
Everything she did was legal. The Sherriff's office tracked her across the nation, while she was doing something that was legal.
Again, where do we draw the line. Yes, photo's taken in public are fair game. You have no "reasonable right to privacy". But what if I take all of those photos and put them in a database and use AI to come up with likely scenarios (that fit my narrative) to see what you are up to, even when you are outside my area (or jurisdiction).
Sweet Kitten Feet said:
Is my dash cam also a warrantless search?
No
LEO's can not sit at their computer and look through your dash cam footage to track a pickup truck you might have passed on tuesday.
You can CHOOSE to give LEO's your footage if you feel that you caught something that needs to be looked at.
cslifer said:
Having a picture taken of your car as it drives down the road isn't remotely close to a warrantless search.
Then someone should tell the State of Oregon
The ruling was in a civil court, in Washington not Oregon, and was related to public information requests. It had nothing to do with being an illegal search. None of that has any bearing on criminal law in Texas.
Tim Weaver said:
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/flock-massachusetts-and-updates
https://ij.org/press-release/public-interest-law-firm-responds-to-flock-safety-pausing-federal-access-to-license-plate-reader-cameras/
Even if Flock maintains a perfect level of security on their database (they probably won't) this is still a warrantless search. On everybody. Quite literally everyone that walks, drives, bicycles, or flaps their wings in front of a Flock camera is being served a search warrant in effect. Since any Law enforcement agency with access can use that data to put together a case against you. Whether you did something or not.
Its failsafe. Clearly.
I thought taking photos or videos in public was legal? The saying is that if you can see it from a public location, you can film it?
You are correct, the poster you are responding to is obviously confused about what a warrantless search is.