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woodiewood
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Looking for someone who can cut about 10 2 1/2 to 3 foot oak pieces that are from about 6 to 8/9 inches in diameter for growing my shiitake mushrooms. Need to be freshly cut and also no wood decay on the sticks.
maddiedou
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I looked this up. You need pecan or hickory for shiitake

If In understood the chart correctly
maddiedou
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maddiedou said:

I looked this up. You need pecan or hickory for shiitake

If In understood the chart correctly
No, I grew shiitake mushrooms on hundreds of oak logs over about five years while I was doing research at A&M. We put on a number of one day shortcourses on how homeowners can "seed" the logs and manage the production. operation.

The best woods were from the Beech family...Oaks, Beech and Chestnut.

In Japan the word "shiitake" literally means "oak mushroom".

You can grow them on logs of most any hardwood tree species. The only ones we had no production was walnut and mesquite due to the high extractive content of the wood.

The denser the wood, the more mushrooms.
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high extractive content


what does this mean?

Not sure why mesquite wouldnt work... It's about twice as hard as oak... on the Janka scale...
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studioone said:


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high extractive content


what does this mean?

Not sure why mesquite wouldnt work... It's about twice as hard as oak... on the Janka scale...
"Wood extractives are natural products extraneous to a lignocellulose cell wall. They are present within a cell wall, but are not chemically attached to it. These compounds can be divided into three major subgroups according to their chemical composition: aromatic phenolic compounds, aliphatic compounds (fats and waxes), and terpenes and terpenoids. While aliphatic compounds can act as surfactants limiting fungal adhesion on wood surface as described above, the phenolics rather have direct effect on fungal physiology. The phenolic compounds can be sub-divided into four groups, which are lignans, stilbenes, flavonoids and tannins "

Certain extractives, primarily the phenolics, are what makes some woods more decay resistant. Mesquite, Bois d'ark, walnut, cedar, rich pine all have high extractive content. The oak tannins don't affect fungal growth.

About 40 years ago I went up the Dallas when they were replacing the streets by digging down in the streets about three to four feet and there were both mesquite and bois d'arc blocks that were used on the street surface back in the 1800s. Except for a little surface decay, the block were still solid. I actually turned some open vessels from some of them on my wood lathe.

"In November 1883, reporting to the council that the project was nearly completed, Mayor Cabell claimed it would be "durable and far superior to any wood pavement that has been laid down thus far." City Engineer Johnson reported that the new paving, which he referred to as bois d'arc, "will be a street of which Dallasites will be proud." The mayor recommended paving Main Street from Jefferson to Sycamore. By 1886 the Dallas City Directory proudly reported, "Three miles of bois d'arc pavement, thebest in the world, have been put down in these two years."

A short background is that I taught Wood Science and Technology classes at both A&M and at times at SFA.



studioone
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woodiewood said:

studioone said:


Quote:

high extractive content


what does this mean?

Not sure why mesquite wouldnt work... It's about twice as hard as oak... on the Janka scale...
"Wood extractives are natural products extraneous to a lignocellulose cell wall. They are present within a cell wall, but are not chemically attached to it. These compounds can be divided into three major subgroups according to their chemical composition: aromatic phenolic compounds, aliphatic compounds (fats and waxes), and terpenes and terpenoids. While aliphatic compounds can act as surfactants limiting fungal adhesion on wood surface as described above, the phenolics rather have direct effect on fungal physiology. The phenolic compounds can be sub-divided into four groups, which are lignans, stilbenes, flavonoids and tannins "

Certain extractives, primarily the phenolics, are what makes some woods more decay resistant. Mesquite, Bois d'ark, walnut, cedar, rich pine all have high extractive content. The oak tannins don't affect fungal growth.

About 40 years ago I went up the Dallas when they were replacing the streets by digging down in the streets about three to four feet and there were both mesquite and bois d'arc blocks that were used on the street surface back in the 1800s. Except for a little surface decay, the block were still solid. I actually turned some open vessels from some of them on my wood lathe.

"In November 1883, reporting to the council that the project was nearly completed, Mayor Cabell claimed it would be "durable and far superior to any wood pavement that has been laid down thus far." City Engineer Johnson reported that the new paving, which he referred to as bois d'arc, "will be a street of which Dallasites will be proud." The mayor recommended paving Main Street from Jefferson to Sycamore. By 1886 the Dallas City Directory proudly reported, "Three miles of bois d'arc pavement, thebest in the world, have been put down in these two years."

A short background is that I taught Wood Science and Technology classes at both A&M and at times at SFA.




you're a wood turner?
woodiewood1
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studioone said:

woodiewood said:

studioone said:


Quote:

high extractive content


what does this mean?

Not sure why mesquite wouldnt work... It's about twice as hard as oak... on the Janka scale...
"Wood extractives are natural products extraneous to a lignocellulose cell wall. They are present within a cell wall, but are not chemically attached to it. These compounds can be divided into three major subgroups according to their chemical composition: aromatic phenolic compounds, aliphatic compounds (fats and waxes), and terpenes and terpenoids. While aliphatic compounds can act as surfactants limiting fungal adhesion on wood surface as described above, the phenolics rather have direct effect on fungal physiology. The phenolic compounds can be sub-divided into four groups, which are lignans, stilbenes, flavonoids and tannins "

Certain extractives, primarily the phenolics, are what makes some woods more decay resistant. Mesquite, Bois d'ark, walnut, cedar, rich pine all have high extractive content. The oak tannins don't affect fungal growth.

About 40 years ago I went up the Dallas when they were replacing the streets by digging down in the streets about three to four feet and there were both mesquite and bois d'arc blocks that were used on the street surface back in the 1800s. Except for a little surface decay, the block were still solid. I actually turned some open vessels from some of them on my wood lathe.

"In November 1883, reporting to the council that the project was nearly completed, Mayor Cabell claimed it would be "durable and far superior to any wood pavement that has been laid down thus far." City Engineer Johnson reported that the new paving, which he referred to as bois d'arc, "will be a street of which Dallasites will be proud." The mayor recommended paving Main Street from Jefferson to Sycamore. By 1886 the Dallas City Directory proudly reported, "Three miles of bois d'arc pavement, thebest in the world, have been put down in these two years."

A short background is that I taught Wood Science and Technology classes at both A&M and at times at SFA.




you're a wood turner?
I used to for about 30 years. Sold my lathes when I moved back to BCS.

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OnlyForNow
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Whoa.
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Post this on the outdoor board.
maddiedou
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Yep. Thats impressive

So I am about to cut some post oak limbs down at my apartments in Bryan

Is that the type your looking for
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