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EriktheRed
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Just wanted to put this on the radar since many of the board's favorite topics are on the agenda tonight.

1) Public hearing on/and setting the FY 25 tax rate
2) Update on the "failed" Independence ballpark
3) Traffic and Mobility Study

You can watch here starting at 6 or join in person.

https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/pubcomm/channel_19
tu ag
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I live outside the city limits, so I can't vote...but what has the city leadership done that has benefited the citizens of CS, besides continue a few past things that are necessary?
Seems most other decisions fall flat or are complete failures of leadership.
Am I just ignorant of the successes?
If not, why aren't they being voted out and fired?
woodiewood
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tu ag said:

I live outside the city limits, so I can't vote...but what has the city leadership done that has benefited the citizens of CS, besides continue a few past things that are necessary?
Seems most other decisions fall flat or are complete failures of leadership.
Am I just ignorant of the successes?
If not, why aren't they being voted out and fired?
"...besides continue a few past things that are necessary?"

That's about 99% of all they should be doing.



tu ag
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I don't disagree...but all the other decisions are a mess.
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woodiewood said:

tu ag said:

I live outside the city limits, so I can't vote...but what has the city leadership done that has benefited the citizens of CS, besides continue a few past things that are necessary?
Seems most other decisions fall flat or are complete failures of leadership.
Am I just ignorant of the successes?
If not, why aren't they being voted out and fired?
"...besides continue a few past things that are necessary?"

That's about 99% of all they should be doing.




Yep, that pretty much sums it up. Gov needs to provide basic services, and that's about it.
Craig Regan 14
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EriktheRed said:

Just wanted to put this on the radar since many of the board's favorite topics are on the agenda tonight.

1) Public hearing on/and setting the FY 25 tax rate
2) Update on the "failed" Independence ballpark
3) Traffic and Mobility Study

You can watch here starting at 6 or join in person.

https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/pubcomm/channel_19

I believe I have made my opinions clear but I also think it important to remind folks:

1) Public hearing on/and setting the FY 25 tax rate - we cannot talk about affordable housing without talking about sustainable housing as well. The constant demand for taxes on citizens makes owning a home in COCS not sustainable. On average from the last four years the tax bill has gone up nearly $1800.00

I am not in favor of putting those that have kicked in $10m's of dollars of hard earned money to the side anymore. Because all we say as a city then is "better go find another $2000 in the next four years; good luck". Sorry, not an option both morally and economically.


2) Update on the "failed" Independence ballpark

Policy and attention to detail matter. Because mistakes made are not free. They come out of your pocket

3) Traffic and Mobility Study

When we realize that bike lanes a nice thought it also has be made clear that most people prefer an "uber bus" system and not biking to in 100 degree weather. You cannot change human nature. If you want density, fine, I am for it but proper planning is required here. Not a square peg/round hole idea.

This is Brazos County, not Austin (HD) or New York. It will be a LONG time before we reach critical mass and walking/biking becomes a regular thing. In the meantime, what are our opportunity costs?
Bob Yancy
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EriktheRed said:

Just wanted to put this on the radar since many of the board's favorite topics are on the agenda tonight.

1) Public hearing on/and setting the FY 25 tax rate
2) Update on the "failed" Independence ballpark
3) Traffic and Mobility Study

You can watch here starting at 6 or join in person.

https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/pubcomm/channel_19



If I could wave a magic wand, I'd ensure everyone in CS goes to cstx.gov and watches tonite's meeting video. I think it was a good one, but that's for y'all to decide.

We scheduled a public hearing for a proposed tax rate (unchanged) that is lower than Waco, Corpus, Denton and Bryan, et al.

We planned traffic and roadway upgrades designed to head off congestion based on a forward looking study through 2035.

We debated a presentation of the first affordable housing committee report and deliberated ways to incentivize the private sector to assist.

We approved a concept plan for a really cool X sports park (my term) to replace the original baseball fields plan we had to cancel due to a contractor's failure.

We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners while preserving the property rights of investors that want to rent, simultaneously.

It wasn't perfect and government never is, but it was a damn good meeting covering lots of ground and we did some really good work for the taxpayer today.

I know it's not popular to defend government, particularly not when at other levels it fails us so dramatically on a routine basis. But tonite was different. While I sometimes disagree with some of the policies my colleagues approve, everyone loves our city and wants the best. Tonite was a good night. College Station is doing well.

My $.02

Respectfully

-yancy
oklaunion
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If the proposed tax rate is adopted, how much will the net increase to the city's coffers be from last year's haul?
Brian Alg
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"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?
Brian Alg

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MsDoubleD81
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How do you re-watch?
Bob Yancy
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Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Bob Yancy
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MsDoubleD81 said:

How do you re-watch?


Go to cstx.gov Channel 19 to find it. Have a great weekend!
Brian Alg
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MsDoubleD81 said:

How do you re-watch?
Video isn't up yet (I think it can take a day or two). But when it comes up it will be here:

https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/pubcomm/channel_19

Once it is posted, there will be a little icon that looks a little like a camera that will take you to the video. They also have buttons for the agenda and the files from the event.

If you want to see how it works before it comes up, the video for the July 25 meeting is available.
Brian Alg

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Brian Alg
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Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.
Brian Alg

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Bob Yancy
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oklaunion said:

If the proposed tax rate is adopted, how much will the net increase to the city's coffers be from last year's haul?


The no new tax rate would be $49.9 cents as I recall but the actual proposed tax rate remains unchanged at 51.3 cents. I'll have to go back and look to get total city increase and I will and edit this response.

Respectfully,

Yancy
EriktheRed
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the video is up

https://collegestationtx.portal.civicclerk.com/event/3748/media

Bob Yancy
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Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy


Craig Regan 14
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If the proposed tax rate is adopted, how much will the net increase to the city's coffers be from last year's haul?


Two types of increases here

1.) If increased valuations

2.) in added tax rolls



But to stay as is, you are right at about $5.2m
AggieBaseball06
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Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



If that is the concern, then pass ordinances restricting the number of vehicles one can own or when music can be played or how much trash is allowed to accumulate. None of those things are exclusive to unrelated renters- a house with 10 related people renting could cause those exact same issues.
scd88
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What are the chances there are 10 related in a house versus 8 students? While your argument is accurate from a literal standpoint, it's also obtuse from a reality one.

I live in one of the neighborhoods approved for the ROO. We have a good mix of respectful renters and homeowners. The renters get to maintain their grandfathered rights - nothing was taken away.
Bob Yancy
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AggieBaseball06 said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



If that is the concern, then pass ordinances restricting the number of vehicles one can own or when music can be played or how much trash is allowed to accumulate. None of those things are exclusive to unrelated renters- a house with 10 related people renting could cause those exact same issues.


That's true, and those ordinances exist. Another important note is that two of these 3 neighborhoods already had no more than 2 in their deed restrictions.

Yet another note is the property rights of the landlord are protected too in that a home registered on the rental roll today remains so despite our action of last night, and, the ability to rent to no more than 4 survives property transference of ownership when sold, provided the new owner keeps the registration current.

There are many moving parts to this and no policy is perfect. I think students and young urban professionals deserve a district of their own- an innovation district with the amenities and data connectivity and walkability and campus access that would make us cutting edge. I call it the "GigEmCity District" and I continue to advocate for that vision to be codified beyond what we've done already.

Respectfully,

Yancy
BiochemAg97
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Bob Yancy said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



If that is the concern, then pass ordinances restricting the number of vehicles one can own or when music can be played or how much trash is allowed to accumulate. None of those things are exclusive to unrelated renters- a house with 10 related people renting could cause those exact same issues.


That's true, and those ordinances exist. Another important note is that two of these 3 neighborhoods already had no more than 2 in their deed restrictions.

Yet another note is the property rights of the landlord are protected too in that a home registered on the rental roll today remains so despite our action of last night, and, the ability to rent to no more than 4 survives property transference of ownership when sold, provided the new owner keeps the registration current.

There are many moving parts to this and no policy is perfect. I think students and young urban professionals deserve a district of their own- an innovation district with the amenities and data connectivity and walkability and campus access that would make us cutting edge. I call it the "GigEmCity District" and I continue to advocate for that vision to be codified beyond what we've done already.

Respectfully,

Yancy


If they had no more than 2 in the deed restrictions, then why need a ROO?

BTW, how close is the no more than 2 overlay getting to violating the Fair Housing Act which prohibits discrimination based on familial status?
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scd88 said:

What are the chances there are 10 related in a house versus 8 students? While your argument is accurate from a literal standpoint, it's also obtuse from a reality one.

I live in one of the neighborhoods approved for the ROO. We have a good mix of respectful renters and homeowners. The renters get to maintain their grandfathered rights - nothing was taken away.


Now call out the example of having an oil well next door on a residential lot.
Bob Yancy
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BiochemAg97 said:

Bob Yancy said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



If that is the concern, then pass ordinances restricting the number of vehicles one can own or when music can be played or how much trash is allowed to accumulate. None of those things are exclusive to unrelated renters- a house with 10 related people renting could cause those exact same issues.


That's true, and those ordinances exist. Another important note is that two of these 3 neighborhoods already had no more than 2 in their deed restrictions.

Yet another note is the property rights of the landlord are protected too in that a home registered on the rental roll today remains so despite our action of last night, and, the ability to rent to no more than 4 survives property transference of ownership when sold, provided the new owner keeps the registration current.

There are many moving parts to this and no policy is perfect. I think students and young urban professionals deserve a district of their own- an innovation district with the amenities and data connectivity and walkability and campus access that would make us cutting edge. I call it the "GigEmCity District" and I continue to advocate for that vision to be codified beyond what we've done already.

Respectfully,

Yancy


If they had no more than 2 in the deed restrictions, then why need a ROO?

BTW, how close is the no more than 2 overlay getting to violating the Fair Housing Act which prohibits discrimination based on familial status?


Good questions all. Ostensibly they wanted a ROO as an added layer of rules so as to avoid having to chase deed restriction violators in court and the requisite expense that poses to an HOA, but you'd have to ask them.

As for the Fair Housing Act, my interpretation is that the familial relationship clause is meant to protect families from discrimination, such as ensuring children cannot be restricted from a dwelling. A cursory reading of HUD's website would seem to confirm that, but I am not an attorney. See paste below:

Examples of Familial Status Discrimination
Examples of familial status discrimination include:

Refusing to rent to families with children
Evicting families once a child joins the family through, e.g., birth, adoption, custody
Requiring families with children to live on specific floors or in specific buildings or areas
Imposing overly restrictive rules about children's use of the common areas (e.g., pools, hallways, open spaces)
Advertising that prohibits children

*******

Respectfully,

Yancy
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maroon barchetta said:

scd88 said:

What are the chances there are 10 related in a house versus 8 students? While your argument is accurate from a literal standpoint, it's also obtuse from a reality one.

I live in one of the neighborhoods approved for the ROO. We have a good mix of respectful renters and homeowners. The renters get to maintain their grandfathered rights - nothing was taken away.


Now call out the example of having an oil well next door on a residential lot.


Well, I was being "melodramatic" to illustrate my point, but I did find one. ;-)
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Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"


Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian


I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.


If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?


This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.

I have heard too many Internet arguments that try to posit the "do what you want with YOUR property" when it comes to pushing through dense development everywhere and anywhere.

Their "ideal" is to convert whole single family neighborhoods to dense housing or with accessory dwelling units.

When you point out that their "no zoning" rules results in something closer to Houston, complete with parking lots in "urban" areas, they'll try to suggest that things be taxed based on the economic value it provides, meaning that you'll be priced out of home ownership because it's more "efficient" to build a bunch of apartment blocks there instead.
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So was charging for parking in the historic district for football discussed (from George Strait thread)
woodiewood
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Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



There obviously is a fine balance between private ownership of real property rights and what is done that affects other persons property. That discussion has probably been going on since persons were able to own real property. Like politics, to me, extremes in any direction is contrary to allowing persons to have the given freedoms that the Constitution protects.

You should be able to do anything you want with your property as long as you don't affect the use and value of other persons property to a significant degree. It's always a fine line of debate with all parties having their views and thinking their views more important than others. In a free society it normally works if all parties are resonable in their thinking.

Bob, I appreciate your comments on this forum as they are well thought out and reasonable. I don't agree totally with you all of the time, but I don't expect to.
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Bob Yancy said:

BiochemAg97 said:

Bob Yancy said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



If that is the concern, then pass ordinances restricting the number of vehicles one can own or when music can be played or how much trash is allowed to accumulate. None of those things are exclusive to unrelated renters- a house with 10 related people renting could cause those exact same issues.


That's true, and those ordinances exist. Another important note is that two of these 3 neighborhoods already had no more than 2 in their deed restrictions.

Yet another note is the property rights of the landlord are protected too in that a home registered on the rental roll today remains so despite our action of last night, and, the ability to rent to no more than 4 survives property transference of ownership when sold, provided the new owner keeps the registration current.

There are many moving parts to this and no policy is perfect. I think students and young urban professionals deserve a district of their own- an innovation district with the amenities and data connectivity and walkability and campus access that would make us cutting edge. I call it the "GigEmCity District" and I continue to advocate for that vision to be codified beyond what we've done already.

Respectfully,

Yancy


If they had no more than 2 in the deed restrictions, then why need a ROO?

BTW, how close is the no more than 2 overlay getting to violating the Fair Housing Act which prohibits discrimination based on familial status?


Good questions all. Ostensibly they wanted a ROO as an added layer of rules so as to avoid having to chase deed restriction violators in court and the requisite expense that poses to an HOA, but you'd have to ask them.

As for the Fair Housing Act, my interpretation is that the familial relationship clause is meant to protect families from discrimination, such as ensuring children cannot be restricted from a dwelling. A cursory reading of HUD's website would seem to confirm that, but I am not an attorney. See paste below:

Examples of Familial Status Discrimination
Examples of familial status discrimination include:

Refusing to rent to families with children
Evicting families once a child joins the family through, e.g., birth, adoption, custody
Requiring families with children to live on specific floors or in specific buildings or areas
Imposing overly restrictive rules about children's use of the common areas (e.g., pools, hallways, open spaces)
Advertising that prohibits children

*******

Respectfully,

Yancy
I don't think a restriction of no more than two unrelated persons in a rental property would be violating the Fair Housing Act which prohibits discrimination based on familial status?
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woodiewood said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

Bob Yancy said:

Brian Alg said:

"We approved a rezoning that protects property rights of single family neighborhood homeowners"

Is that intended to be a description of ROO restrictions?


Yessir.
Seems Orwellian

I have trouble understanding how some would characterize rules telling homeowners *who can and cannot live in their own homes* as a protection of their property rights.

If you telling a man he is not allowed do what he wants with his property is anything other than a violation of his property rights, what is property ownership for? Isn't the ability to choose how to use property integral to the whole property ownership concept?

This probably isn't the forum for me to try to understand it, though.


Howdy Brian,

Let me explain if I may. In real estate appraisal I liken it to an "external obsolescence." Using a melodramatic example: If I bought the lot on the other side of your fence, right next door, and built an oil well on it I have impacted the value of your home. Even though you retain complete enjoyment of your lot within the four corners of the property, something has occurred outside your property boundary that lessens the value, or changes the desirability of the property and your quality of life.

Less dramatic but nonetheless impactful, if the homes on either side of you are converted to rental properties and you are flanked by 8 vehicles and there is loud music most nights and there is trash accumulation at the street, your property has experienced an external obsolescence beyond your control.

Respectfully,

Yancy



There obviously is a fine balance between private ownership of real property rights and what is done that affects other persons property. That discussion has probably been going on since persons were able to own real property. Like politics, to me, extremes in any direction is contrary to allowing persons to have the given freedoms that the Constitution protects.

You should be able to do anything you want with your property as long as you don't affect the use and value of other persons property to a significant degree. It's always a fine line of debate with all parties having their views and thinking their views more important than others. In a free society it normally works if all parties are resonable in their thinking.

Bob, I appreciate your comments on this forum as they are well thought out and reasonable. I don't agree totally with you all of the time, but I don't expect to.


I really value the feedback on this platform. Thank you kindly and have a blessed Sunday and a productive week!

Respectfully,

Yancy
My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
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To me this looks like government is in the HOA business now and now govt gets to push punitive damages.
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whoop1995 said:

To me this looks like government is in the HOA business now and now govt gets to push punitive damages.
CS78
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Bob Yancy said:


We scheduled a public hearing for a proposed tax rate (unchanged) that is lower than Waco, Corpus, Denton and Bryan, et al.

Respectfully

-yancy

First, thank you for being here on the forum.

But, municipalities really need to stop comparing themselves to each other. It always feels like they're justifying their overspending as ok, just because their neighbor has an even bigger spending problem. If my neighbor spends $80k on a new car, it doesn't make it ok for me spend $70k.

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This. So much this.

I don't care what Temple or Killeen or Waco or Beaumont have spent. Or anywhere else really.

The city needs to quit writing checks like a drunken congressman.
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CS78 said:

Bob Yancy said:


We scheduled a public hearing for a proposed tax rate (unchanged) that is lower than Waco, Corpus, Denton and Bryan, et al.

Respectfully

-yancy

First, thank you for being here on the forum.

But, municipalities really need to stop comparing themselves to each other. It always feels like they're justifying their overspending as ok, just because their neighbor has an even bigger spending problem. If my neighbor spends $80k on a new car, it doesn't make it ok for me spend $70k.




That's fair. There have to be multiple benchmarks to determine how a city is doing. Ours city isn't perfect to be sure. I do contend however, that it's pretty darn good. Like many on this platform, I too get frustrated with government. Before I was elected to council, I had strongly held principles about government and strong opinions about how our city was doing. My principles remain unchanged, but some of my specific opinions about the city are different. Not all, but some.

As those beliefs were challenged, I did and still do headache inducing research to understand objectively where we are at. I don't know any other way but to compare us in key metrics to similar cities.

When it comes to employees per capita, we aren't bad off. When it comes to comparable tax rates we are doing really good. When it comes to debt per capita we're better than average. When it comes to bond rating agency ratings we are in an excellent position. When it comes to water quality, sanitation and fire protection, we leave other cities in the dust. As tough as traffic is at times, I just put a traffic analysis outside expert through the wringer at our last council meeting. With a few glaring exceptions, he reports we are ahead of the curve.

On discretionary spending, we have a lot of parks. We just approved another one, but there's a backstory there as to why. Setting parks aside, our capital projects are routine and typical municipal capital projects. The largest capital project in College Station history is a wastewater treatment plant. In our latest budget, a super majority of the capital projects are traffic related. Compared to our budget size, discretionary spending is low and that's why our bond rating is the second highest possible.

Improvement areas? In some cases we need to work on transparency. We need to be more business friendly and fast track housing projects. We've fallen behind in police force size and it must be addressed with urgency. We need the Macy's monkey off our backs without losing taxpayer dollars. We need to stay on top of O&M and seek ways to cut costs to keep that tax rate low in the face of growth. We need to address water and wastewater capacity to keep up. We need to coordinate with TxDot better rather than seeing them as a silo that's going to do what they are going to do. We urgently need help from my beloved Alma mater in student housing and public safety. Yes, we wouldn't be where we are without them but that argument wears thin given the horizon view of what's happening and what's to come. We need to turn our economic development focus from retail to salaried, professional employment. We need to be actively pursuing the JETI program to bring those six figure salary jobs to town, with urgency.

There's a lot more too, but that is one councilman's view of the State of the City.

Here endeth the rant and my $.02

Respectfully yours,

My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
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