Citizen Feedback Sought, Pro or Con, for a New Rec Center
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I guess my first question would be, is there a demand for this and how extensive is said demand?
No
My hope was that Mooney take this fight to the cointy and CS would drop it.
NO
So let say 5% of the population would use said facility. That would leave 95% who would pay for it and never use it. (like most gym memberships)FlyRod said:
I guess my first question would be, is there a demand for this and how extensive is said demand?
No thank you.
We know people in Conroe and if one is run like that one they have there, it's good for the community.
Memberships, entry fees, summer camps, and sports lessons fund it.
It's run so well that it drove the YMCA out of Conroe.
If it's a handout facility, it's a drain on the taxpayers that never use it.
Memberships, entry fees, summer camps, and sports lessons fund it.
It's run so well that it drove the YMCA out of Conroe.
If it's a handout facility, it's a drain on the taxpayers that never use it.
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Supplant the interest for a rec center with a focus on attracting/incentivizing more diversified industry than just Texas A&M. Culture and investment will follow
Why would that be an either / or issue?
A place like the Legends facility…yes.
A place like a YMCA…no.
A place like a YMCA…no.
My thoughts are we already have Legends, do we really need another? Right now, no. In the future, this area could use another in a decade or so, but I don't think the population of our twin cities can support both.
This is where Bryan and College Station could benefit by collaborating together on such projects and working to complement each other instead of competing.
Also, think about the small businesses in this community as well. I rather encourage economic growth through those means first, identifying possible solutions there to meet our community's needs rather than create government run entities to compete with our small businesses.
This is where Bryan and College Station could benefit by collaborating together on such projects and working to complement each other instead of competing.
Also, think about the small businesses in this community as well. I rather encourage economic growth through those means first, identifying possible solutions there to meet our community's needs rather than create government run entities to compete with our small businesses.
I've been all over Texas and have yet to see a facility comparable to Legends, well done Bryan.
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Stupe said:
Why would that be an either / or issue?
Not so much an either/or as much as a prudent shift of thinking and focus.....
My vote will always be no when the City wants to develop and manage.
Can anyone name a successful project that the city has developed and managed other than basic services.
The City Council needs to get out of the Development business using our tax money.
Can anyone name a successful project that the city has developed and managed other than basic services.
The City Council needs to get out of the Development business using our tax money.
My intuition on this one is no. I worry about competition with local gyms in the private sector that risked capital to locate here. However, I'll wait for the study to be complete and citizen feedback formally tallied before making a decision.
Respectfully
Respectfully
I am against it. I don't think the city should get into competition with private businesses.
If a private entity wants to open one, then yes. If CS is footing the bill, then no.
Bob Yancy said:
Minus the nasty negative comments here, my intuition on this one is no. I worry about competition with local gyms in the private sector that risked capital to locate here. However, I'll wait for the study to be complete and citizen feedback formally tallied before making a decision.
Respectfully
Mr. Yamcy-
Could you please quote an example of what you mean by "nasty negative comments"? I do not feel that there are any... I just want to know your boundaries.
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Legends is an amazing facility and there is no denying that. As part of an organization that started using it day one, I can attest to the fact that it was desperately needed.
On another note, the fact it is run by the city and needs to turn a profit has already made scheduling events difficult. Space is becoming increasingly difficult to rent for local organizations as bigger events come in.
Don't get me wrong, I love the facility and I'm there multiple days a week usually with my kids sports teams. I do think another facility similar is already needed. While traveling for basketball games around other state I've seen it is obvious that multiple facilities can work in a community this size.
Sorry for the rambling post
On another note, the fact it is run by the city and needs to turn a profit has already made scheduling events difficult. Space is becoming increasingly difficult to rent for local organizations as bigger events come in.
Don't get me wrong, I love the facility and I'm there multiple days a week usually with my kids sports teams. I do think another facility similar is already needed. While traveling for basketball games around other state I've seen it is obvious that multiple facilities can work in a community this size.
Sorry for the rambling post
My mistake. There's no nasty comments here I was conflating with another thread I'm following. I appreciate the direct comments and I'll edit to remove the "negative comments" statement. Sincere apologies.
Bob
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No.
Bob Yancy said:
My intuition on this one is no. I worry about competition with local gyms in the private sector that risked capital to locate here. However, I'll wait for the study to be complete and citizen feedback formally tallied before making a decision.
Respectfully
Would you consider sharing your intuition with the other council members an possibly save us the cost of the study?
hopeandrealchange said:Bob Yancy said:
My intuition on this one is no. I worry about competition with local gyms in the private sector that risked capital to locate here. However, I'll wait for the study to be complete and citizen feedback formally tallied before making a decision.
Respectfully
Would you consider sharing your intuition with the other council members an possibly save us the cost of the study?
Yes I have. Stated my inclination against it from the dais and on the record. It's an inclination only as I'll wait for the feasibility study.
Respectfully
hopeandrealchange said:
My vote will always be no when the City wants to develop and manage.
Can anyone name a successful project that the city has developed and managed other than basic services.
The City Council needs to get out of the Development business using our tax money.
+1,000,000,000,000
There is 0% chance that facility will ever turn a profit. Bryan may be trying to minimize damage to taxpayers by renting to the highest bidder. But government-funded facilities like that do not cover their costs.ChampsAg said:
it is run by the city and needs to turn a profit
There may be other reasons to push for these types of projects. For instance, if one wants to offload costs associated with running tournaments and select sports teams onto taxpayers. But the end result to the bottom line of the municipal budget will be a massive loss.
Brian Alg
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What does a feasibility study alone cost?
I am not necessarily in favor of it, but I bet only about 5% or less of the population uses each of the baseball fields, soccer fields, Central Park, Lick Creek Park and the other parks.doubledog said:So let say 5% of the population would use said facility. That would leave 95% who would pay for it and never use it. (like most gym memberships)FlyRod said:
I guess my first question would be, is there a demand for this and how extensive is said demand?
No thank you.
Also a tad worried about impact on local gyms. Still annoyed about my Golds in Bryan closing.
No.
we need to know this
I'm not saying I'm in favor or against building a rec center. I am firmly against the city helping the YMCA build one here. I don't really agree that either would be competing with local gyms because that type of facility is different than any of the gyms in town.FlyRod said:
Also a tad worried about impact on local gyms. Still annoyed about my Golds in Bryan closing.
Stupe said:I'm not saying I'm in favor or against building a rec center. I am firmly against the city helping the YMCA build one here. I don't really agree that either would be competing with local gyms because that type of facility is different than any of the gyms in town.FlyRod said:
Also a tad worried about impact on local gyms. Still annoyed about my Golds in Bryan closing.
It may offer different services but it still has a gym and would absolutely compete with local gyms.
Something like the LEGENDS event center but in CS.
If you have kids doing club volleyball or basketball the drive from CS is a beating. Briarcrest might be the worst road in town.
And everyone thinks the same thing - why didn't CS do this ?
I'm told they want more parks, biking trails, and birdwatching.
If you have kids doing club volleyball or basketball the drive from CS is a beating. Briarcrest might be the worst road in town.
And everyone thinks the same thing - why didn't CS do this ?
I'm told they want more parks, biking trails, and birdwatching.
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BRYAN, Texas (KBTX) - The Brazos Valley might be getting a YMCA here soon, with the founder's group now halfway to their goal.
Bringing a YMCA to the Brazos Valley has been in the works for years, dating back to even before the pandemic. While COVID-19 might have slowed the process down by two years, CEO and President of YMCA of Central Texas, Jeff Andresen is surprised at how much The Brazos Valley YMCA Founders Group has already raised. According to Andresen, the group has already raised over 50 percent of its $300,000 goal. Once they reach their goal the YMCA of Central Texas will match it.
Andresen said when the founder's group reaches 85 percent the YMCA will look to hire someone who will start running programs and activities.
"At the rate they're going we plan on posting a job somewhere in that March April time frame to hire a staff person and place them in that College Station, Bryan, Brazos Valley area," Andresen said.
While the founder's group has been working on funding, Andresen said the YMCA has been doing a Gap Study to find whatever activities might be lacking in the area.
"What our Gap Analysis has found is there is a definite need for additional after-school child care, if there are school needs then that means there are summer day camp needs," Andresen said. "We also know there are a variety of activities across parts of your community where there are activities in this section of the community but not in this section. So there may be youth sports activities that are needed or youth aquatics activities."
Market research done about four years ago has shown that the Brazos Valley demand for the type of services that a YMCA provides was much higher than the national average and that demand is expected to grow along with the area, Andersen said.
"You have a much higher population of young families and then you got folks who may have gone to the university that are coming back to your community and are looking for things to do in retirement," Andersen said. "That sweet spot for YMCAs is that young family that needs things as a family to go to. That other sweet spot is for that senior and active older population."
https://www.kbtx.com/2024/01/23/brazos-valley-ymca-founders-group-is-over-halfway-reaching-its-fundraising-goal/
Basketball courts, racquetball courts, pickle ball, and a general fitness weight room would not be a lot of competition for the Golds Gym and Cross Fit market.Quote:
It may offer different services but it still has a gym and would absolutely compete with local gyms.