Bryan - A New Redevelopment

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6:20p, 9/12/23
AG
This is simply gorgeous and also in a great location. I hope it comes to fruition.

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wareagle044
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6:31p, 9/12/23
Bryan has been crushing it lately...
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6:57p, 9/12/23
AG
That's a lot of houses to acquire and demolish! Some of them are old and run down, but on the whole they're in much nicer shape (especially the further North you go) than those right behind Northgate which have recently been demolished to make room for high-rises.

Based on the annoyingly low-res map in the city's site, it looks to bordered by Inlow on the south, Oaklawn on the west, Redbud/Fleetwood on the north (or maybe the other jog of Fleetwood, in line with Clay?) and of course College on the east. (Using the "Aggie North" where College Ave. runs North/South, even though it's really NW/SE.)
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techno-ag
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7:17p, 9/12/23
AG
From the other thread:

https://www.bryantx.gov/new-mixed-use-destination-envisioned-for-the-city-of-bryan/?fbclid=IwAR2YplOPrWzKFCB0tZfPJEYXY59JMOapw3D7UXLBUhrRS6FqLX52IgjH73o_aem_Ae5-RY-xufdphapqd7_DFN9GPcVri0ZlT24IimFDq9fblbeAsr9HuUK4538NafBWbJk&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

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The proposed redevelopment is located on South College Avenue across from Hensel Park, within walking distance of Century Square, and behind the Northgate Entertainment District. It is 2,200 feet from Texas A&M's campus and less than 4 miles from Historic Downtown Bryan and Travis Bryan Midtown Park.

The City of Bryan has partnered with Lero & Associates, Inc. to acquire property, utilities and entitlements, and plan the development in order to secure a master developer to assist in creating a high-density, mixed-use community. To visualize the redevelopment, the city has partnered with OMNIPLAN, a highly qualified architecture firm.
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7:29p, 9/12/23
Are there any master plans like this for downtown itself? I know there's some new things going up there, but i've never seen any future plans for how all thats going to look.
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12:34a, 9/13/23
I can't get the Bryan city website to load, but the one photo on TwiXXer looks like it's on the Byran side of Inloe, across the creek from U Centre. Am I seeing that correctly?
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12:36a, 9/13/23
I'm digging that pedestrian overcrossing over S. College. Why can't they do some of those over University?
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8:24a, 9/13/23
AG

Quick overlay onto a map shows that it will be very roughly in this area. This is just going off of that pixelated image. Like another poster said, that's kind of a lot of houses to acquire.
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In reply to Slagathor • 8:33a, 9/13/23
Slagathor said:

Quick overlay onto a map shows that it will be very roughly in this area. This is just going off of that pixelated image. Like another poster said, that's kind of a lot of houses to acquire.
According to Brazos CAD, the city has already acquired at least 30 of these homes.
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In reply to Slagathor • 8:36a, 9/13/23
AG
Slagathor said:

Quick overlay onto a map shows that it will be very roughly in this area. This is just going off of that pixelated image. Like another poster said, that's kind of a lot of houses to acquire.
Based of Brazos CAD, they've been working on it. Lots of houses there owned by "Bryan Commerce and Development".
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8:50a, 9/13/23
AG

Yep, purple points are owned by "BRYAN COMMERCE & DEVELOPMENT INC".
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In reply to Slagathor • 9:00a, 9/13/23
AG
stand strong 35554!!!
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In reply to Pantera • 9:10a, 9/13/23
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Pantera said:
stand strong 35554!!!


Yeah, if you don't sell, the city will just condemn your property and take it…

Just ask the guy with the plane in the field near the biocorridor about strong arm tactics…
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9:18a, 9/13/23
AG
In looking at the other properties they haven't acquired yet, around half of them appear to be owned by realty companies or LLCs, so I am assuming rentals. Those should be pretty easy to buy. It will be the individual homeowner that has lived there for decades that may hold out.
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9:35a, 9/13/23
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Hope with that area they develop it won't be tied to paid parking like City of College Station has done with Century Square. That sucks and keeps me from going there more often, I know you can use the garage but come on who wants to walk that far when it's 106.
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In reply to cypress-ag • 9:39a, 9/13/23
cypress-ag said:
Hope with that area they develop it won't be tied to paid parking like City of College Station has done with Century Square. That sucks and keeps me from going there more often, I know you can use the garage but come on who wants to use the garage when chunks of it fall into cars and make the news every six months.


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9:44a, 9/13/23
Not to rain on the non-Christmas parade but...

Since we are already on water restrictions, how will water be supplied?

Who supplies power for this big development?

Where will the wastewater go?

Do we have enough police/fire/EMS to support this?

On the bright side, it would be an excellent location for a convention center/performance arena venue!

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In reply to Hornbeck • 9:45a, 9/13/23
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9:58a, 9/13/23
AG
A&M has a task force working on redevelopment plans for Hensel Park. It will be interesting to see how that interacts with this development and Century Square.

I actually have been thinking that locating the Museum of Natural History that TAMU recently set aside $100 million to build at Hensel Park, along with redeveloping the green space, might make a lot of sense.
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In reply to Captn_Ag05 • 10:21a, 9/13/23
Captn_Ag05 said:
A&M has a task force working on redevelopment plans for Hensel Park. It will be interesting to see how that interacts with this development and Century Square.

I actually have been thinking that locating the Museum of Natural History that TAMU recently set aside $100 million to build at Hensel Park, along with redeveloping the green space, might make a lot of sense.


Isn't it going out past Lot 43 near Bush Library?
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In reply to HWY6_RunsBothWays • 10:22a, 9/13/23
HWY6_RunsBothWays said:
Hornbeck said:
Pantera said:
stand strong 35554!!!


Yeah, if you don't sell, the city will just condemn your property and take it…

Just ask the guy with the plane in the field near the bio corridor about strong arm tactics…
The plane is gone.
He has a bone to pick, ignore him.

I walk my dogs in this neighborhood. I would be surprised if there are any owner occupiers. It's mainly rough looking rentals and empty lots.
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 10:40a, 9/13/23
AG
That has been the speculation, but it hasn't made it to on the master plan yet. There was also speculation it was going to go near the polo fields, but that has been shot down.

I am making my pitch for it to go near Hensel Park. Northgate, Century Square, PopStroke, this Bryan development if it happens, could make for a nice entertainment area not on campus.
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11:38a, 9/13/23
Looking at the plan, I surprised that they did not go all the way to Brookside Dr. and make it a bigger block.
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11:47a, 9/13/23
AG
Are they branding this area "Oak Terrace"? I see that in the footer of this image. But, the pinpoint location on the graphic has "MN" like that is the initials of the development name, so that has me confused.

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In reply to Captn_Ag05 • 12:34p, 9/13/23
Captn_Ag05 said:
Are they branding this area "Oak Terrace"? I see that in the footer of this image. But, the pinpoint location on the graphic has "MN" like that is the initials of the development name, so that has me confused.

Oak Terrace is a neighborhood that is right there and part of it is or was a deed restricted area. Looks like it was formed in 1992.

http://oakterracedra.com/

Depending exactly what streets they want to take down they might be going right up against that DRA. Last news on website was from 2019 so not sure if it is still in force or they just no longer use the website.
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12:34p, 9/13/23
AG
Oak Terrace is the subdivision name. There is a deed restricted section that starts right at the proposed boundary, which is probably why it is not bigger.
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In reply to MeKnowNot • 12:40p, 9/13/23
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MeKnowNot said:
Not to rain on the non-Christmas parade but...

Since we are already on water restrictions, how will water be supplied?

Who supplies power for this big development?

Where will the wastewater go?

Do we have enough police/fire/EMS to support this?

On the bright side, it would be an excellent location for a convention center/performance arena venue!

At least we know the wastewater won't be going down Rosemary. Maybe into CS?
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1939
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3:20p, 9/13/23
AG
Why is the city getting into the real estate business? This is a really bad idea for the city to be buying up land for a speculative real estate deal.
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In reply to 1939 • 3:31p, 9/13/23
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1939 said:
Why is the city getting into the real estate business? This is a really bad idea for the city to be buying up land for a speculative real estate deal.
It's called redevelopment. Unlike CS, Bryan has a long successful history at it. At the end of the day I prefer to see this rather than 80 year old pier and beam rental houses over there.
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In reply to techno-ag • 4:04p, 9/13/23
AG
Your tax dollars at work, huh?

So much for small government. They should leave the development to real estate developers, and their deep pockets, IMHO.
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In reply to Hornbeck • 4:39p, 9/13/23
AG
Hornbeck said:
They should leave the development to real estate developers, and their deep pockets, IMHO.
Looks like they're doing that.

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The City of Bryan has partnered with Lero & Associates, Inc. to acquire property, utilities and entitlements, and plan the development in order to secure a master developer to assist in creating a high-density, mixed-use community.
This reminds me a lot of Traditions. There was some griping and opposition for that one too but it has been excellent for the city.
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5:01p, 9/13/23
Which city officials are making money on this deal?
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5:37p, 9/13/23
Could be wrong but I just don't see them being able to buy every single house in less than 10 years. Lots of different reasons for people to not sell. Tax and estate planning can be a huge road block.
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In reply to CS78 • 6:08p, 9/13/23
CS78 said:
Could be wrong but I just don't see them being able to buy every single house in less than 10 years. Lots of different reasons for people to not sell. Tax and estate planning can be a huge road block.
It should be illegal for a governmental entity to force homeowners to sell their homes in order to sell to and for a private company to build anything on the land. I have no issue with eminent dominion purchases in the cases of roads and other public use developments

We are all asleep while we are losing more and more freedoms every year.
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7:01p, 9/13/23
I use to live on Inlow, several of those people are not selling, many of those places are newly built and or newly renovated

Also, Inlow has serious drainage issues, now you are going to add more concrete around Inlow as well as the park?
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