HWY6_RunsBothWays said:
Shhh…don't be letting the secret out.
Captn_Ag05 said:
My two cents on the use of the property now. A nice dog park was mentioned. Money was already spent on the infrastructure and slab work for a concession area and restrooms. Partner with a place like Mutts Cantina and make it a dog park and turn the concessions into a bar.
MeKnowNot said:
Since its time to get creative with the property....
Drones are getting more popular, until the City comes up with some other much more expensive plan for the property, how about a drone park?
Finish the bathrooms. Add some electric outlets for charging. Leave the parking the gravel parking that the contractor used, bring out some old culverts, and whatever to create obstacles to fly through and around.
It would be a one of a kind park that might even draw in some tourists if they hold competitions for amateur operators and training seminars for professionals that now use drones (like first responders).
or lack of rain.hopeandrealchange said:
That pesky insufficient soil how dare it get changed by the rain.
I know several large projects that have been shut down because the rains changed the soil.
Happens all of the time with no fault attributed to anyone.
ratfacemcdougal said:
Some one go grab 4 or 5 buckets of that darn pesky soil then when the city tries for force a project on the citizens (YMCA, Convention center, etc.) dump some of that soil on the site. Brilliant !!!
unless there was some major erosion issue from drainage creating gullies I don't see how rain would have messed up anything in this situation, it looks like there wasn't enough soil investigations done to determine the limiting factors or problems with the sitehopeandrealchange said:
That pesky insufficient soil how dare it get changed by the rain.
I know several large projects that have been shut down because the rains changed the soil.
Happens all of the time with no fault attributed to anyone.
I was going to suggest MId-Town Ice House but I like your idea better!Captn_Ag05 said:
My two cents on the use of the property now. A nice dog park was mentioned. Money was already spent on the infrastructure and slab work for a concession area and restrooms. Partner with a place like Mutts Cantina and make it a dog park and turn the concessions into a bar.
Bob Yancy said:
This is largely correct, and happened as a result of contractor error and not city hall. Beyond that, I'm very limited in what I can report as we go about the process of salvaging what we can for all of us, the taxpayers. I can only assure you all that is exactly what will be done.
If you want to see the entire presentation and discussion go to CSTX Channel 19 and scroll to time mark 53 minutes and 50 seconds, 53:50.
I know there will be a lot of criticism, contractor error notwithstanding. I understand that. I signed up for it.
Along the way, if you guys have any constructive suggestions on what we do with the site going forward, I'd love to hear it.
Respectfully
MS08 said:Bob Yancy said:
This is largely correct, and happened as a result of contractor error and not city hall. Beyond that, I'm very limited in what I can report as we go about the process of salvaging what we can for all of us, the taxpayers. I can only assure you all that is exactly what will be done.
If you want to see the entire presentation and discussion go to CSTX Channel 19 and scroll to time mark 53 minutes and 50 seconds, 53:50.
I know there will be a lot of criticism, contractor error notwithstanding. I understand that. I signed up for it.
Along the way, if you guys have any constructive suggestions on what we do with the site going forward, I'd love to hear it.
Respectfully
Respectfully, who is the developer? The COCS, correct? So, ultimately they are the ones to blame. Greater and more exhaustive due diligence should have been performed (at the direction of the developer) because of the site's history. Blaming the geotechnical outfit or whoever, is cheap and counterproductive. If COCS wants to develop then they have to play the game the right way like the way all of us other developers have to play it. Again, if this were to happen to a private developer, high likelihood they would be out of business and declaring bankruptcy.
Step one is recognizing whose money was spent, our money as taxpayers, and falling on that sword and saying sorry. If no fault is admitted and owned up to, then it will happen again.
Cheers,
histag10 said:
Question... could the citizens of College Station file a class action suit against the city for improper use of taxpayer fund?
Bob Yancy said:
This is largely correct, and happened as a result of contractor error and not city hall. Beyond that, I'm very limited in what I can report as we go about the process of salvaging what we can for all of us, the taxpayers. I can only assure you all that is exactly what will be done.
I know there will be a lot of criticism, contractor error notwithstanding. I understand that. I signed up for it.
Along the way, if you guys have any constructive suggestions on what we do with the site going forward, I'd love to hear it.
Respectfully
Contractor error? You are saying that the contractor's scope included ordering Geotech and other engineering reports? Was the contractor the developer and GC on this project, because while that is not unheard of, it is not very common. Was there not an owner's rep working on behalf of the city to fully scrub all environmental and geotech assessments, and in turn make sure that the contractor adhered to industry standard and recommended specs based on these findings before moving dirt. I'm not saying you are incorrect in your claim that it was contractor error, but something just isn't adding up here. The city has a city engineer in house. The city has a building and construction department in house. It seems to me that if the people we pay with our tax dollars were actually diligent and punctilious in performing their jobs, we could have averted a lot of this.Bob Yancy said:
This is largely correct, and happened as a result of contractor error and not city hall. Beyond that, I'm very limited in what I can report as we go about the process of salvaging what we can for all of us, the taxpayers. I can only assure you all that is exactly what will be done.
If you want to see the entire presentation and discussion go to CSTX Channel 19 and scroll to time mark 53 minutes and 50 seconds, 53:50.
I know there will be a lot of criticism, contractor error notwithstanding. I understand that. I signed up for it.
Along the way, if you guys have any constructive suggestions on what we do with the site going forward, I'd love to hear it.
Respectfully
MS08 said:Bob Yancy said:
This is largely correct, and happened as a result of contractor error and not city hall. Beyond that, I'm very limited in what I can report as we go about the process of salvaging what we can for all of us, the taxpayers. I can only assure you all that is exactly what will be done.
If you want to see the entire presentation and discussion go to CSTX Channel 19 and scroll to time mark 53 minutes and 50 seconds, 53:50.
I know there will be a lot of criticism, contractor error notwithstanding. I understand that. I signed up for it.
Along the way, if you guys have any constructive suggestions on what we do with the site going forward, I'd love to hear it.
Respectfully
Respectfully, who is the developer? The COCS, correct? So, ultimately they are the ones to blame. Greater and more exhaustive due diligence should have been performed (at the direction of the developer) because of the site's history. Blaming the geotechnical outfit or whoever, is cheap and counterproductive. If COCS wants to develop then they have to play the game the right way like the way all of us other developers have to play it. Again, if this were to happen to a private developer, high likelihood they would be out of business and declaring bankruptcy.
Step one is recognizing whose money was spent, our money as taxpayers, and falling on that sword and saying sorry. If no fault is admitted and owned up to, then it will happen again.
Cheers,
MeKnowNot said:MS08 said:Bob Yancy said:
This is largely correct, and happened as a result of contractor error and not city hall. Beyond that, I'm very limited in what I can report as we go about the process of salvaging what we can for all of us, the taxpayers. I can only assure you all that is exactly what will be done.
If you want to see the entire presentation and discussion go to CSTX Channel 19 and scroll to time mark 53 minutes and 50 seconds, 53:50.
I know there will be a lot of criticism, contractor error notwithstanding. I understand that. I signed up for it.
Along the way, if you guys have any constructive suggestions on what we do with the site going forward, I'd love to hear it.
Respectfully
Respectfully, who is the developer? The COCS, correct? So, ultimately they are the ones to blame. Greater and more exhaustive due diligence should have been performed (at the direction of the developer) because of the site's history. Blaming the geotechnical outfit or whoever, is cheap and counterproductive. If COCS wants to develop then they have to play the game the right way like the way all of us other developers have to play it. Again, if this were to happen to a private developer, high likelihood they would be out of business and declaring bankruptcy.
Step one is recognizing whose money was spent, our money as taxpayers, and falling on that sword and saying sorry. If no fault is admitted and owned up to, then it will happen again.
Cheers,
The Rock Prairie design contract that was approved last night included only ten, 10' borings for about 2 miles of road.
Given that the City knows that soils are a problem in this area, is that enough borings and are the deep enough so that we don't have big change orders when they start rebuilding Rock Prairie east?
SCHTICK00 said:
Soil plasticity and what's going on at the ballpark are 2 different things. The ballpark is uncompacted soil with no consistency due to the nature it was placed. Again, it was a borrow pit and the remediation fill came from countless locations. There are no bridge structures on rock prairie and soil consistency should be expected. Lime series will be run after subgrade elevations are achieved.
Scht made the claim that the area had been used as a borrow pit.HWY6_RunsBothWays said:
Throwing hand grenades doesn't help.
