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How many more facts do we need?

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Whichever ones are appropriate to the case(s) under investigation...and this board doesn't get to decide that, however much fun speculating is.

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I just hope the council tonight has the gumption to address these facts

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I hope the Council gets all the facts, and makes an informed decision based on them, rather than relying on hearsay and speculation.

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This is still a small town and our elected officials need to be above reproach.

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You sure do expect a lot out of politicians.

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How many more facts do we need?

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Whichever ones are appropriate to the case(s) under investigation...and this board doesn't get to decide that, however much fun speculating is.

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I just hope the council tonight has the gumption to address these facts

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I hope the Council gets all the facts, and makes an informed decision based on them, rather than relying on hearsay and speculation.

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It's going to be a difficult chore to carry the water for Councilman Pena. I hope you're up for it.

As stated previously, I have no dog in this fight (in contrast it seems to many on this board).

I am a fan of due process though, at least more than I am of torch and pitchfork bearing mobs.

And I always will! I don't believe leaders are born. I believe they are trained. To be a leader, no matter where, one has to be above reproach. They should be the standard bearers.

I am horrified by these Bryan citizens speaking out and defending Pena...what planet do these people live on that it is no big deal to beat your wife? She called the police herself! This is scary...

There is a faction so absolutely blind in their lust to oppose the Mayor that they overlook character flaws to say the least.

CS has this now and then, thankfully it has been a while. Sadly we're about due for a nutjob or two.

You had one. His bid to unseat John Raney didn't go so well.

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I am horrified by these Bryan citizens speaking out and defending Pena...what planet do these people live on that it is no big deal to beat your wife? She called the police herself! This is scary...

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Even the liberal Eagle Editorial Board is starting to come around, after this and the Traditions accounting scandal-not a scandal Southerland and the boys kicked up. Remember, the Eagle was all in favor for the "voice of opposition" winning spots on the council in the last election. Now they're seeing what that really entails. Constant arguments, expensive needless audits paid for by the taxpayers, scandals and the bending of rules like living outside the districts they represent, etc. etc.

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Pena cussed out the board for agreeing to make part of the police report public. He broke down then left for a few minutes. Council voted to investigate whether he's violating rules by not living in his district. One resident speaking insinuated the Council were Klan members on a witch hunt. Saenz kept interrupting Bienski later on a separate issue to the point where police got involved with the meeting, according to Rusty Surette at KBTX.

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Even the liberal Eagle Editorial Board is starting to come around, after this and the Traditions accounting scandal-not a scandal Southerland and the boys kicked up. Remember, the Eagle was all in favor for the "voice of opposition" winning spots on the council in the last election. Now they're seeing what that really entails. Constant arguments, expensive needless audits paid for by the taxpayers, scandals and the bending of rules like living outside the districts they represent, etc. etc.

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You don't really think the CPA analysis of the figures that were given to Southerland constituted an audit of the Traditions expenses...because it wasn't. Not even close.

Both the mayor and the city manager labeled it an analysis of the numbers given Southerland, hence the "only $1 off" result.

To keep calling it something it wasn't is a nice political trick.

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How does the residency requirement work if you have multiple residences? The mayor has a house in Conroe; is he required to spend a certain amount of time in Bryan (or surrounding area)?

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Nice try. You can have as many vacation homes as you want. You can have only one primary residence. There is a big difference between residing somewhere and visiting somewhere - but you already know that.

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You legal residence would probably be the one that you have declared legally on the tax rolls as your homestead, if you did declare it.

I forget how much a full forensic audit would have cost. I think it was in the six figures. The "analysis" was something like $10,000. When it became obvious Southerland and Pena wouldn't accept the CPA's analysis, the board agreed to just move on. It's obvious they'll disagree with any audit that doesn't conform to their preconceived notions.

As a Roman Catholic and a human being, that Klan comment is beyond offensive. If anyone knows the history or the RCC and the KKK in the Brazos Valley they would be disgusted. Again more CryBully bs that people use these days.

the triple K comment was so absurd even discussing it feels illogical.

problem is, even if people may have felt it was witch hunt or whatever, when you bring up moronic accusations like that then you lose all credibility for any other argument you might have.

i don't have a dog in this fight and don't care one way or the other on Pena, but his language and behavior was totally unacceptable. how'd this guy get elected in the first place??

Al, Rafael, and Mike seem to live by the rule: "Do as I say. Not as I do.". They only want transparency from others and not from them. The way they treat city staff is downright disgusting.

What can a citizen do? They are not in my district. Can the members of one district call for a re-election for another district?

Here's my question on all this continual drama.

Al Saenz last night claimed that any accusations against Pena was nothing more than a witch hunt is a total waste of money that could be used for other things .......

.I like to remind him:

It was Pena's wife that made the accusation, she filed the police report and then recanted, and I guess there are special rules for councilman because if as John Q public we filed a false police report we would have been arrested

Pena himself in his press conference said he was fine with releasing all the police reports and audio/video then when the council gets ready to release them Mike and Al start talking about him not being tried and right of due process and he starts crying and cussing because the council is ruining his life. Why did he change his mind?
Has he seen/heard the tapes and realized they don't look/sound like the image he has painted? He may not have done enough to be charged but that doesn't mean he didn't do something.....just him taking his wife's phone when she was trying to call 911 is a crime.....

As for the council wasting money Mike, Al and Rafael's "witch hunt" on Traditions that is a waste of money. What the three of you need to do is quit trying to dig dirt just do your jobs serving the people. Mike doesn't need to try to look for deep throat everyone in town knows he wants to be Mayor. He needs to work hard and earn the respect and quit trying to take the world down around him.

I noticed in a newspaper article Pena stated to the reporter he was doing repairs and electrical on his house. As a sitting council member I must assume he knows that he has to have an electrical permit issued to do the work. For a fact I know there are NO building permits of any kind issued by the city for the property on Sandy Point Rd. So am I to assume again that Councilman Pena lives by a different set of rules than the citizens of Bryan do.

Al you keep yelling the other members of the council are bought by "special interest" groups. How about you put out the names and while your at it name your little threesome special interest group starting with the club house.

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It was Pena's wife that made the accusation, she filed the police report and then recanted, and I guess there are special rules for councilman because if as John Q public we filed a false police report we would have been arrested

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She did not want to file charges, that is different than filing a false report. Also you really don't want to discourage people from calling police for domestic violence if they feel in danger

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She did not want to file charges, that is different than filing a false report. Also you really don't want to discourage people from calling police for domestic violence if they feel in danger

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That's not what Pena (and his supporters are claiming). They're NOT saying "Pena battered his wife but she doesn't want to press charges". Pena et al are saying "It never occurred". Given that the police report says it did occur, and Pena says is never occurred, one of the two is false. So did Pena's wife file a false police report, or is he a wife beater?

Either way, this isn't going to just go away, no matter how much FlyRod wishes it will.

No, its not just "going to go away." It is, hopefully, going to be handled by all the appropriate parties, and an appropriate decision or decisions rendered in due time.

As The Eagle notes there are a lot of players and a lot of moving parts to this story. But of course its going to end at some point.

I'm still curious about her claims of her family being threatened by outsiders.

That one is a real head scratcher.

KBTX tonight has posted the police report etc.....read the damn story for yourself......Pena lied!

http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Police-report-on-Pena-incident-released-on-order-from-Bryan-city-council-379038051.html

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KBTX tonight has posted the police report etc.....read the damn story for yourself......Pena lied!

http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Police-report-on-Pena-incident-released-on-order-from-Bryan-city-council-379038051.html

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Rafael & I got into a verbal altercation at which he charged out of the kitchen & ran into the living room where he pushed me & took my phone and proceeded to broke (sic) my phone thru (sic) a lifeproof case," reads the statement, which is signed afterwards by Pea's wife and dated April 20.

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OK he should just resign right now. It sounds like he has some serious anger issues. This along with screaming GD & the F-bomb in a city council meeting shows he is out of control.

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"God d*mn you if you're going to f****** release this," Pea exclaimed in his statement Tuesday before a vote on the report's release.

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Now that's the kind of official statement voters can be proud of from their representative. Wow.

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The address for both Rafael and Mrs. Pea in the police report is one on Bizzell Street. As first reported by News 3, the police report states Mrs. Pea said the couple "used to live" at an address on Sandy Point Road.

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This sounds pretty damning as well.

Everybody should read the whole police report before commenting any further.

This guy has serious problems and needs help. I pray for his wife because this sounds very scary for her. I bet she feels trapped and doesn't know how to get out and I pray she finds the strength, courage and support needed to get through this. Whether the resolution is her leaving or him getting the help he needs. Something needs done because his anger issues will only grow over time and she will most likely be the target.

What is amazing is how many people are still defending Pena.

Read the comments on The Eagle and it is all defending Pena (really most are Southerland supporters) and blaming this all on a conspiracy by Bienski.

He'll likely get re-elected.

I saw that CSPD arrested a guy for hitting a dude with a hatchet today, maybe he will run.

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What is amazing is how many people are still defending Pena.

Read the comments on The Eagle and it is all defending Pena (really most are Southerland supporters) and blaming this all on a conspiracy by Bienski.

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Ideology trumps reality with libs. Sad to say but with his anger issues, if the other shoe drops someday all his defenders will be complicit in enabling his behavior.

Interestingly his twitter highlights a few Kasich messages.

Actions speak louder than words. He has consistently voted with the Southerland troublemaker group. Anti growth, anti Traditions, anti anything beneficial for Bryan imo.