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we see this occasionally with veterans and first responders --- they are used to getting praised and sometimes getting special perks --- and when they don't get it...
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we see this occasionally with veterans and first responders --- they are used to getting praised and sometimes getting special perks --- and when they don't get it...
This may not be the dumbest statement ever placed on social media but I am pretty sure it ranks among the top ten.
quote:Yeah right. Sounds like she knew her rights, and if the restaurant didn't work, and the police didn't work, she should've called the right government office, not taking it to the local media/social media and finding Internet lynch mobs to the dirty work. It reminds me of idiots on Tumblr believing that if you're a minority (black, women, LGBT, disabled) you can do no wrong, and that is absolutely untrue.quote:I disagree both sides made mistakes. The restaurant was clearly in the wrong here. The disabled lady did nothing wrong.
Still. I don't see a need for the criminal side.
While I think the service dog/animal thing is out if control and too many claim theirs is one, a seeing eye dog (guide dog) is pretty obvious and needed.
Maybe the staff and management never watched Sesame Street or mr Rodgers and thus never were exposed to or made aware of the sight impaired and their dogs.
That said, in my opinion, I think calling NPD was an unnecessary escalation as was the social media attempted lynching. Is any restaurant worth having the police force them and fine them into serving you? I wouldn't eat there.
Instead I would (as she claims to have done) tried to explain, calmly) what the law is. Once that doesn't work, leave and contact whoever is I charge of ADA and let them write/inform the management of their error.
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Both sides made mistakes and this could have been handled better.
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She didn't find an Internet lynch mob. She posted her thoughts online and people reacted.
I don't see why people are making a big deal about this. Folks on this board post bad reviews of places all the time both on this board and on their own personal Facebook pages.
If you were blatantly discriminated against what would you do? Would you just sit back smile and go stand in a line to complain?
quote:Dude, she's not playing the victim card. She is sincerely disabled and her rights were trampled on. I've seen more outrage over debit card fees. What a sheltered life so many posters seem to be living. Have some compassion for the less fortunate who have been wronged here.quote:
She didn't find an Internet lynch mob. She posted her thoughts online and people reacted.
I don't see why people are making a big deal about this. Folks on this board post bad reviews of places all the time both on this board and on their own personal Facebook pages.
If you were blatantly discriminated against what would you do? Would you just sit back smile and go stand in a line to complain?
"Blatantly discriminated against"? Uh, no, and if that was similar to the words she used, then shame on her. The business was probably unaware of state laws about allowing guide dogs in. That isn't discrimination, even if your victim complex thinks so. No one posting about bad service in a restaurant has tried to make it a discrimination or criminal issue, at least with a straight face.
Depending on the wording of the complaint, either you guys are making a big deal out of a mistake (which was resolved) or she's milking the victim card. I sincerely hope it's the former.
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Dude, she's not playing the victim card. She is sincerely disabled and her rights were trampled on. I've seen more outrage over debit card fees. What a sheltered life so many posters seem to be living. Have some compassion for the less fortunate who have been wronged here.
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I still don't see why you are so outraged as to how she handled it.
quote:Come on. It defies common sense that you would be outraged that people are upset over this. On this board alone people are constantly upset over minor restaurant slights. This is a major slight. It involves real disability and real discrimination.quote:
Dude, she's not playing the victim card. She is sincerely disabled and her rights were trampled on. I've seen more outrage over debit card fees. What a sheltered life so many posters seem to be living. Have some compassion for the less fortunate who have been wronged here.
OK. Let's go with the working hypothesis that she isn't. First off, the law that allows service dogs into restaurants was only signed into law in summer 2013, and while I learned it is technically a criminal offense (up to $300 fine or 30 hrs. community service--which is less than, say, a DUI), most of what I have a problem with is going to the media instead of working up the chain of command (because the Internet/social media/etc. is the supreme law of the land, amirite?) and the ridiculous hyperbole the Internet lynch mobs (i.e. people like you) use: Rights! Trampled on! DISCRIMINATION!
I can understood some small-town waitress not being aware of the law, but really, it's the Navasota PD being in the wrong for not properly being trained on this aspect of the law.
I'm not interested in poo-flinging (seeing as how the better word is censored), but I think it's funny that those that are shouting the loudest and attempting to invalidate others with the "you're not disabled, stfu" treatment are also non-blind, able-bodied people themselves.
quote:quote:Come on. It defies common sense that you would be outraged that people are upset over this. On this board alone people are constantly upset over minor restaurant slights. This is a major slight. It involves real disability and real discrimination.quote:
Dude, she's not playing the victim card. She is sincerely disabled and her rights were trampled on. I've seen more outrage over debit card fees. What a sheltered life so many posters seem to be living. Have some compassion for the less fortunate who have been wronged here.
OK. Let's go with the working hypothesis that she isn't. First off, the law that allows service dogs into restaurants was only signed into law in summer 2013, and while I learned it is technically a criminal offense (up to $300 fine or 30 hrs. community service--which is less than, say, a DUI), most of what I have a problem with is going to the media instead of working up the chain of command (because the Internet/social media/etc. is the supreme law of the land, amirite?) and the ridiculous hyperbole the Internet lynch mobs (i.e. people like you) use: Rights! Trampled on! DISCRIMINATION!
I can understood some small-town waitress not being aware of the law, but really, it's the Navasota PD being in the wrong for not properly being trained on this aspect of the law.
I'm not interested in poo-flinging (seeing as how the better word is censored), but I think it's funny that those that are shouting the loudest and attempting to invalidate others with the "you're not disabled, stfu" treatment are also non-blind, able-bodied people themselves.
Instead of compassion and concern over the violation of rights this poor woman experienced, you folks are presenting faux outrage over her exercising social media prowess. How hypocritical. When a restaurant or other business in town ticks you off, y'all are so quick to use the same methods to seek redress. Then when a blind woman is denied entry and service to a restaurant you brush it off. She's blind! For crying out loud she's not using a millennial victim card!
quote:again, again, again..no one is sticking up for them refusing to serve her. I, and others are just against the "internet lynching." How can you sit here and blame the business, when the officers didn't even know what to do. MB told her that health code didn't allow animals. Yes, that is no excuse for not knowing that ADA supersedes it, but they thought they were doing right by the health code.
ADA Act is a 25 year old law. MB should have known most of the provisions as an employer who has to make reasonable accommodations for disabled employees. Ignorance on MB's side is not acceptable. The revised regulations that went into effect in 2010 actually, clarified the definition of service animal to eliminate the people taking advantage of the law with service snakes or what ever.
quote:everyone is to blame here. the fact that the officers didnt know about its even more reason to raise awareness.
How can you sit here and blame the business, when the officers didn't even know what to do.
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The lady was not being discriminated against for being blind. It is a simple case of people being ignorant of ADA law. She should have spoken with the owner of MB, and with a superior in the police/sherrif dept instead of going straight to facebook/the media.
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most of what I have a problem with is going to the media instead of working up the chain of command
quote:and that's just on this page.
Yeah right. Sounds like she knew her rights, and if the restaurant didn't work, and the police didn't work, she should've called the right government office,
quote:i mean that's kind of what they did by not allowing her service dog to accompany her.
Do you really think that MB said "oh, she's blind. we don't want her kind here?"
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she should have.
Do you really think that MB said "oh, she's blind. we don't want her kind here?"
People are acting like they went out of their way to discriminate. They probably push people in wheelchairs down staircases, and park in handicap spots just for fun. [/sarcasm for the dense]
It's the "so-and-so" slighted me, so I'm going to try and ruin them attitude that is prevalent in the news media, and social media.
No one is asking for more government. They are asking for them to do their job.
