Hormone free beef/pork

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BMo
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I'm going to make a couple a calls but was wondering if anyone knew off hand if any of the local stores carry hormone free beef/pork? TIA
MiMi
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Village Foods probably does. I also believe I've seen beef at the TowerPoint HEB (haven't ever looked for pork).
BMo
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Thank you. Village Foods has some hormone free pork but no beef, surprising to me. Readfields has some hormone free hamburger. I was wondering about any of the HEBs.
TXCityGirl
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Definitely no on the pork at HEB. They don't even have organic pork.
They do have a decent selection of grass fed and organic beef.
BMo
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Thank you, will inquire at HEB as well.
AggiePirate
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First stop would be WalMart if they were any good.
TXCityGirl
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
justalocal
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Kroger has Nolan Ryan and Laura ? That is hormone free
BMo
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Thanks for the additional information, appreciated.
nonag97
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I second Home Sweet Farm in Brenham. They have a wide variety of meats from RIchardson Farms and others in the area. Lots of other locally sourced goodies too. Great folks who are defining what it means to 'shop local'!
momlaw
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Village Foods has their grass fed hormone free beef in the standing freezer on the grocery aisle end cap, at least they used to.
Frydaddy713
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Just putting it out there that it's illegal to use hormones or steroids in pork and poultry raised in the US, so all pork will be "no added hormones"

As for beef, look for organic versions. Most grocery stores now carry a range of organics.
BMo
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I will look into that momlaw. Thanks.

Frydaddy ractopamine is a growth hormone allowed in US pork though banned around the world according to what I have read.

iisanaggie
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What about Rosenthal on campus?
BMo
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I don't go on campus.
chrisfield
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Faulkner Farms!
FlyRod
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Brazil's natural foods.
Brewmaster
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dangit, now I gotta find natural bacon
dachsie
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Wild Type Ranch sells their beef at Village Foods or you can get it at the farmer markets on certain Saturdays. There is also someone that sells beef on Fridays at the South Brazos County Farmer's market at BSW Hospital.
Frydaddy713
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Ractopamine isn't a hormone but rather a beta agonist. It works slightly differently than a hormone. Its also species specific. It activates the part of the brain that signals fat storage and instead converts it to muscle.

But if you're worried about Ractopamine, choose the organic/all natural versions.
BMo
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Thanks for the clarification. At this time due to medical conditions it needs to be organic/all natural.
techno-ag
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But if you're worried about Ractopamine, choose the organic/all natural versions.
Frydaddy713
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No problem bMo. Might as well share some of the info I learned from my ansc degree I just earned (Whoop!).

As a meat sci student, we focus mainly on efficient production, but it would be foolish not to recognize that many consumers now demand organic versions of products, so there should be that choice in the marketplace for them. Good luck in your search!
12thmnfromflotown
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
ksp
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
I suppose they could be labeled good , better and best, although junk is more accurate.
12thmnfromflotown
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Link

Even though I know those of you haven't been "bashing" on conventionally raised beef or pork I'd like to share this article that was put out by the University of Nebraska Extension Department. There is lots of good and, more importantly, accurate information in the article about hormones in beef and why you shouldn't be concerned
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
I suppose they could be labeled good , better and best, although junk is more accurate.
Looks like i spoke too early.....let the bashing commence
ksp
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
I suppose they could be labeled good , better and best, although junk is more accurate.
Looks like i spoke too early.....let the bashing commence
You are confusing bashing, with opinion. Just like you have yours. Figured a 12thman with all that knowledge up top was smart enough to know the difference, but I see I expect to much from the general population. But carry on if it makes you feel better!
12thmnfromflotown
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
I suppose they could be labeled good , better and best, although junk is more accurate.
What makes administering implants to cattle "junk"? Is it the fact that they allow the animal to convert feed more efficiently; therefore, allowing cattle to be raised more economically, which helps keep prices to the end consumer lower? Is it because they allow the beef producers of the world to put more pounds of beef into production in order to meet the demand of a vastly growing world population, despite doing so with fewer acres in production because of urban sprawl?

BMo
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I didn't intend to start a debate on the good/bad of supplemental feeding. My doctor has advised me not to partake of any red meat with the additives due to how it could affect my particular treatment. I will heed his advise or continue on my chicken/fish diet. Thanks.
ksp
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
I suppose they could be labeled good , better and best, although junk is more accurate.
What makes administering implants to cattle "junk"? Is it the fact that they allow the animal to convert feed more efficiently; therefore, allowing cattle to be raised more economically, which helps keep prices to the end consumer lower? Is it because they allow the beef producers of the world to put more pounds of beef into production in order to meet the demand of a vastly growing world population, despite doing so with fewer acres in production because of urban sprawl?
It is of my OPINION, that the way mother nature intended us to eat it, as opposed to a modified way that humans came up, is the way to go and the way our bodies were designed to eat, ingest and absorb the nutrients in it.

While the process may use less cattle and keep costs slightly lower, my OPINION above still stands. Not to mention the world already can and does produce more food than the entire population can eat, and has the ability to expand and produce even more if need be.

One thing I have learned over the years, is that opinions are usually not changed, and trying to argue the fact and sway ones opinions is usually futile and games I typically do not play.

If you cannot handle a difference, then might I suggest to not read my replies in the future and save yourself the grief.
12thmnfromflotown
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If you want to buy directly from a farmer, there are a few who deliver in our area. Richardson Farms sells pork locally, and the Home Sweet Farm market in Brenham usually has locally raised meats that are junk-free.
I get that some people might be concerned with animals that were administered certain feed additives or implants but, I'd ask you to not imply that those production methods are "junk"
I suppose they could be labeled good , better and best, although junk is more accurate.
What makes administering implants to cattle "junk"? Is it the fact that they allow the animal to convert feed more efficiently; therefore, allowing cattle to be raised more economically, which helps keep prices to the end consumer lower? Is it because they allow the beef producers of the world to put more pounds of beef into production in order to meet the demand of a vastly growing world population, despite doing so with fewer acres in production because of urban sprawl?
It is of my OPINION, that the way mother nature intended us to eat it, as opposed to a modified way that humans came up, is the way to go and the way our bodies were designed to eat, ingest and absorb the nutrients in it.

While the process may use less cattle and keep costs slightly lower, my OPINION above still stands.

One thing I have learned over the years, is that opinions are usually not changed, and trying to argue the fact and sway ones opinions is usually futile and games I typically do not play.

If you cannot handle a difference, then might I suggest to not read my replies in the future and save yourself the grief.
Your opinion of only eating things the way mother nature intended brings up a bevy of counter points I could make....However, I am attempting to shed light on the TRUTH about hormones in beef. I'm going to assume you didn't look through the article I shared earlier so I'll go ahead and share with you a couple of points from there.

Do you realize that our bodies produce the hormone estrogen, the same hormone that is used in cattle implants? There is 1.9 nanograms of estrogen in a 3oz steak that comes from an implanted animal, 1.3 nanograms of estrogen in a 3oz steak that comes from a non-implanted animal, pre-pubescent boys produce the least amount of estrogen per day at a rate of 41,500 nanograms. That means humans produce that hormone at minimum a level 20,000x greater than the amount in a 3oz steak. There is almost 120x more estrogen in potatoes and almost 180x more estrogen in peas (when comparing 3oz of each to 3oz of steak). But, I'm sure you don't worry about whats in the peas or potatoes, just the "junk" using cattle producers. Additionally, when humans consume the hormone estrogen it is digested and neutralized which means it doesn't have any effect on you.

You are certainly entitle the think what you want but, be prepared to stand up for your opinion instead of being like "The Dude" in The Big Lebowski.....


ksp
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Why are assuming that my issue is with growth hormones? I never stated that, stated the meat was junk. You just assumed by my statement and are putting words in my mouth.

Grass fed beef has way lower amount of ecoli in them as compared to cows fed the non mother nature way. It also causes the meat to have higher lvls of unhealthy omega 6 fatty acids instead of naturally producing more omega three the way the natural mother way intends it too.

Grass fed beef is also high in CLA (conjugated linolec acid) , as where grain fed cattle it is low.

Since the modification of a cows diets, heart disease has gone from 9% per 100,000 deaths to over 26%, the increase mind you, is in addition to the complete strides we have made in medicine and the medicinal field all together in that same time span. Cancer in the same time span has gone from 4% per 100,000 deaths to 25% per 100,00 deaths.

Now this may or may not be all related to beef being done the wrong (in my opinion) but I also stay away from GMOs, all dyes and virtually anything boxed or canned, and stay away from legalized crack cocaine called sugar.

Overly paranoid? smart? to cautious? to healthy? Call it what you want, but all the modifications, based on information I have obtained and read out in this great big world, are NOT as healthy a alternative as eating it the way mother nature wanted us and designed us to do.

P.S. No hating on the big lebowski!
ksp
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I also buy cage free/range free chicken eggs and grow most of my own veggies in my own garden.
12thmnfromflotown
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Why are assuming that my issue is with growth hormones? I never stated that, stated the meat was junk. You just assumed by my statement and are putting words in my mouth.

Grass fed beef has way lower amount of ecoli in them as compared to cows fed the non mother nature way. It also causes the meat to have higher lvls of unhealthy omega 6 fatty acids instead of naturally producing more omega three the way the natural mother way intends it too.

Grass fed beef is also high in CLA (conjugated linolec acid) , as where grain fed cattle it is low.

Since the modification of a cows diets, heart disease has gone from 9% per 100,000 deaths to over 26%, the increase mind you, is in addition to the complete strides we have made in medicine and the medicinal field all together in that same time span. Cancer in the same time span has gone from 4% per 100,000 deaths to 25% per 100,00 deaths.

Now this may or may not be all related to beef being done the wrong (in my opinion) but I also stay away from GMOs, all dyes and virtually anything boxed or canned, and stay away from legalized crack cocaine called sugar.

Overly paranoid? smart? to cautious? to healthy? Call it what you want, but all the modifications, based on information I have obtained and read out in this great big world, are NOT as healthy a alternative as eating it the way mother nature wanted us and designed us to do.

P.S. No hating on the big lebowski!
Junk in what way? Taste? Quality? Health? You can't argue taste since that is truly unique to each individual. However, I can certainly spray some water on the other 2 fronts.

You're not wrong that there is more omega-3 fatty acid in grass-fed beef vs. grain fed but, in grain-fed beef there is more oleic acid and less saturated and trans fats......So, i again reference you to a credible, peer reviewed study done by Dr. Smith with the Animal Science department at Texas A&M. In this article he compares health benefits between grass-fed and grain-fed beef.....there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that grass-fed is healthier than grain-fed.

Since you are going to bring up E. coli, ill share this article from the journal of animal science with you, even though I highly doubt you'll read it, you'll have to download the PDF. The lead author on this study was Todd Callaway who works for USDA here in Bryan and is widely considered one of the foremost experts in the field of ruminant bacteria (bacteria in cattle's digestive system). Specifically, look at the section "Dietary Changes to Decrease E. coli O157:H7 Populations in Cattle". They fed cattle on finishing diets up until 5 days before harvest, then abruptly switched them to only hay diets. You'll see there "Based on these results, it was suggested that feedlot cattle be switched from high-grain diets to hay immediately before slaughter to reduce E. coli overburden in the abattoir". Additionally, a few lines later they reference other studies that proved "grass fed" beef does not have a higher incidence of being contaminated by E. coli, "other results have indicated that longer-term forage feeding had no effect or even increased E. coli O157:H7 shedding".......If you read the rest of the paper you'll see that there are several other ways scientists have learned how to combat E. coli through implementing management practices, something that wouldn't be possible in your "mother nature" version of the cattle industry.

Here is a link that cites when the earliest mention of feeding grain to cattle...the earliest documented mention was in the late 1800s. Since you aren't going to reference any study or research to back up your implication that grain-fed beef causes heart disease and cancer I could also draw conclusions about other things that could have had the same effect like the development of the internet......the fact is that saturated fat and cholesterol have been shown to increase the chances of heart disease and if you'll remember 2 paragraphs ago I pointed out that grass-fed beef has more saturated fats.

Your concerns about GMOs are equally unsettling and truly your idea of what the cattle industry should look like is flat out impossible. Seed companies use biotechnology to improve farmers ability to grow food and fiber at increasingly higher levels of quantity and quality. According to the US Census Bureau there will be 2 billion more people by 2050. Production agriculturists have a hard enough time providing food and fiber for the world as it is....much less 2 billion more mouth and bodies. Your ideal production system is simply unsustainable to feed and clothe the world. It may be your opinion, and you are entitled to that but, use your head and actually think about the logistics of it.
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