Gun shots at apartments behind Wayne Smith baseball fields on Wellborn

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TAMU1990
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Sorry, thinking of baseball and I corrected it. Geez. I'm done because obviously people love to troll instead of discuss situations.

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AggieBB
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1990Wendy-

I thought you said the dog at the baseball fields was a Rottweiler?
TAMU1990
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READ THE POST AGAIN. The bite happened not in CS but while I was trick or treating. The rotweiller was at the baseball field. I was commenting because people think that there isn't a problem with dogs.
AggieBB
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*SERIOUSLY*
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Wendy - some people obviously have nothing better to do than pick apart spelling, grammar and search for corrections to your posts.

Back to the topic at hand, we have played at Wayne Smith so I know what you're talking about. When the toilet paper is padlocked to the wall in the bathroom, you might be in a bad neighborhood.

When we play at SWV, I let me younger kids run around and play with their friends. When we're at WS, we bring the DS and they sit in a lawn chair right next to me. I know bad things can happen anywhere but I'm definitely on higher alert at WS.

The land at WS was donated (I believe) and that's the only reason there is a baseball park there.
AgResearch
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So how did we get from gunfire near kiddy baseball to attack dogs and now accusations of trolling?
kraut
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The simple solution would be to not allow dogs within the city limits.[/Saratoga]
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TAMU1990
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No, that boxer attacked MY KID. He was in surgery for two hours to fix his face. And I fully understand what breeds bite (and lead in these incidents) and which breeds don't. Sorry, I think you are the one that needs to keep up because you obviously can't switch from one breed to another... Quite a simple reading comprehension task if you ask me.

Do you know that the #1 claim against home owner policies are dog bites? Get edcuated son. Not fires, theft, electrical shorts, etc. BUT DOG BITES. No need to ban dogs, but place the responsibility on the dog owner. If they bite a kid, you pay out of the nose.

Sorry, this thread has gotten way off topic b/c of people who like to hide behind a computer with fake names. No way some of these people would act this way in public. This guy has just pushed the momma button.



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AgResearch
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Steve Billings
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Wendy - some people obviously have nothing better to do than pick apart spelling, grammar and search for corrections to your posts.



This is true.
TAMU1990
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BTW, I can highly recommend Texas Children's surgeons. It just looks like a cleft pallete issue now. Still needs laser surgery to fix the 4 red scars. I wish I knew how to attach pictures because I have one with his mouth area butterflied open and the middle of his lip detached. The police got involved because it was a rather nasty attack.
rhoswen
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I understand your fear of all dogs based on what happened to you and your child.

I do not understand how you know a strange dog WILL bite.
BlueMiles
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BTW, I can highly recommend Texas Children's surgeons. It just looks like a cleft pallete issue now. Still needs laser surgery to fix the 4 red scars. I wish I knew how to attach pictures because I have one with his mouth area butterflied open and the middle of his lip detached. The police got involved because it was a rather nasty attack.


Meanwhile, back on topic of *this* thread... When are the apartments scheduled to be razed?
Koob
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Wow, and I thought someone said that College
Station didn't have projects...I'll stay right here in Bryan, Thank you.
SARATOGA
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College Station and Bryan both have crime ridden areas....

College Station has troubles with this area between Holleman and SW Parkway, otherwise known as the "state streets" and around the Lincoln Center. Also behind the Exxon on 2818 SE of Welch and Deacon and the parts of Southwood Valley that have apartments or low income housing.

Bryan has trouble with anything not Traditions, Miramont or Austin's Colony.....

Both sides can throw stones across University, but both police departments know where their trouble areas are.

This isn't a Bryan or College Station issue. This is an issue of OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

How do we get criminals to move out/move on ?

I say.....

1) Lots of police, lots of patrols. And I would support increased taxes toward this end.

2) Price criminals out of the market. No HUD, no government grants, and restrictions on new apartment complexes, and standards for older ones.

Again. An ENTIRE B/CS Community issue !
justcallmeharry
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I think that CSPD had a Sub-Station at South Gate Apartments many years ago as did the Adult Probation Department. Emphasis on "I think..." I am guessing that neither of these options turned out to be cost effective or effective overall.

It is my understanding that the housing there is primarily HUD and the owners are relatively new. If they are keeping the property up to HUD standards and making a profit, I doubt that there are any plans to raze the property anytime soon.

Old-timers like me can remember when that was a new and fairly desirable location - right behind the Peanut Gallery.

That seems to be the typical life of an apartment complex, doesn't it? Nice! So so... Uh oh! Of course that has an impact on the surrounding neighborhood and parks.

And - I am sure TLIAC is correct - most living there are working people who happen to be poor. Per CSPD Significant Activity Reports, it looks like plenty of Criminal Trespass Arrests are made at that address backing up TLIAC's statement that some troublemakers not living there contribute to problems there.

Those are no reasons folks should have to tolerate nonsense or dogs on or off the field during baseball/softball games. Use your cell phones and call CSPD. They might be just around the corner.

Harry...

ETA - Saratoga is correct - This is a Community issue. Not CS vs. Bryan. If there were easy solutions, there would be no problems. It's not about dogs, either. It's about people and what they choose to do with their dogs.



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monkeyaround
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You should always assume that any dog is a threat and is capable of attacking. If you don't want your dog killed or injured by a protective mom or dad, keep it under control and on a leash. These are animals and should be treated as such, folks. They are not children, nor are they nearly as precious.

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carpe vinum
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debatable
Andrew2.0
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debatable


True that, I'd be a tad more than mildly annoyed if someone shot my Husky. Granted, I don't go walking my dog through little league games, mostly because angry LL parents annoy the heck out of me.

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carpe vinum
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Antagonizing LL/Soccer moms is pretty amusing.
violiav
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ALL dogs bite. Don't knock a breed because of irresponsible owners.
Or hey, let's just ban everything that can possibly hurt us.
JMac03
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While I hate the fact that we have to play ball there too, can a fence not be put up so that the individuals would have to walk around tha park?
SARATOGA
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it annoys me when people interpret classism or elitism as racism...

Race is the color of your skin. Nobody should care what color anyone's skin is, because it doesn't matter.

Lower income people are prone to violent crime, we are trying to get rid of crime, not colors.

I love black people, brown people, white people, blue people, red people, and yellow people.

I don't like criminals, loiterers, or those who stroll around little league fields when they have no reason to be there, those who fire guns in cities, and shoddy looking construction, and that is what I am trying to get rid of.
CinchAG97
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When did anyone reference the race of the individuals who make up the predominant residents of the apartments?

The sad thing is that no one had to. When a group of people act a certain way, and others encourage the behavior, there's nothing racist about it. It's called reality, not racism.
carpe vinum
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aggiepaintrain
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Vote AggieBB DOWN.
Dude, get a life.
Agism95
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My son played LL at Wayne Smith fields about 6-8 years ago. I remember he was playing right field up against the fence with his back to Southgate when shots were fired. That was a scary moment. We hid out in the concession stand. I was not a happy mamma when they sent the boys back out on the field about 20 minutes later.
I never minded the people that walked through the ball park. I always hoped they saw positive families and could take something home.
Bigsteve713
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I advocate more softball moms and dads at said park exercise their freedom to procure a CHL.



stupid, a CHL isn't going to stop a bullet
TLIAC
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Cinch - I believe that we had resonded to a report of a fight earlier. That is why there were officers in the area previously. The report of shots fired came later. We were unable to locate the actors but the investigation into the incidents is not over.
TwoDogs
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Trying to distill this dicussion and oh boy.

Gun fire aside:

1-were the two dogs properly restrained? If so, according to city rules, they had a legitimate right to accompany thier owners.

2-were any of the "pedestrians" violating any law or park rule? If not they had a legitimate right to be there.

I understand the desire to place undesirables out side the mainstream of society. But that always seems to come back to bite us in the nether regions or worse.

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The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs. ~Charles de Gaulle
CharlieMac
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TLIAC, Thank you and your officers for the support. While your officers actions are fine for me as a parent, I think that we cannot possibly expect a police state around every local area that has potential criminal activity. I am emailing our little league board and recommending action ASAP, cease all activities at WS, and ask that other parents do the same.
AggieBB
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Get edcuated son


Irony?
The Mad Greek
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Irony?


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[This message has been edited by techno-ag (edited 6/9/2012 11:48a).]
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