Just got my first can on 4473 and I know you're a guru on all things NFA. What are your thoughts on tucking under the rail for a PCC build?

Right now it's living on my 300 BLK but I'm also going to run it on my 9mm upper and debating if I want to get a new rail.

Paying the photo tax with my 300blk…

This is the current status of my 9mm upper. I personally think the suppressor would look goofy as hell being about 3x longer than my hand guard but I'm not seeing many pictures of people tucking them anymore on Google outside of the Honey Badger setups.

Thanks man! I'm thinking I will. It looks like the hard part is going to be getting it on/off with this ASR mount. I think I will need to find a hand guard that I can take off over the suppressor so I can get to the mount and unlock it.

If you've got some set up this way and wouldn't mind posting some pics I'd love to see them for some inspiration!

Dreaded DP

forgot to add...if you look close at the 2nd pic of the suppressor I have a silicon cover on there from Weka Innovations. It does help with the heat protection a bit while shooting, but it more there from keeping the suppressor from burning at first touch when transition drills, or simply setting the rifle down on something "melty" like a range bag.

Have my 9MM AR tucked to the point only 1/2" of the can sticks out. Would recommend.

Just means the can never comes off except for cleaning.

SupermachJM said:

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Thanks man! I'm thinking I will. It looks like the hard part is going to be getting it on/off with this ASR mount. I think I will need to find a hand guard that I can take off over the suppressor so I can get to the mount and unlock it.

If you've got some set up this way and wouldn't mind posting some pics I'd love to see them for some inspiration!

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I would strongly recommend looking into other mounting options. That an Omega 36M, right? You should be able to swap out the mount at the rear for other options, and I would recommend using direct thread if you're going to be tucking it under a can. Way easier to attach and detach than having to take the handguard off to get to a locking collar.

This isn't a true SD, but its my only 9mm with a tucked handguard. AP5-SD, so its just a normal K length barrel under the handguard with 1/2x28 and a 3 lug. I'm using a 3 lug to attach the suppressor to it.



The other guns I tuck suppressors on are my MCXs, both because they come with factory SD handguard options and because I use them with suppressors/nv/thermal and the extra rail space is nice.



Top gun is a 5.5" Rattler Canebrake. The AI 3CM suppressor does not have modular rear threads, so I have to use a muzzle device to mount it.

Bottom gun is a 6.75" LVAWish MCX. The OCL Infinity does have a modular rear end, so I just direct thread it, which is my preferred option. How the look all put together:



The 3CM base module makes the suppressor the exact length of the SD handguard, which is pretty small, but I mentioned one reason you might want to keep the shorter handguard on the 9mm AR is for size. Here is a 5.5" Rattler with a normal handguard next to the 5.5" Rattler with the Canebrake SD handguard on it:



Still have the option to throw the suppressor on the little guy, but sometimes being able to stuff something into a smaller space while traveling is nice.

I haven't built an AR since 2008. where are the best placed to source parts these days?

Towns03 said:

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I haven't built an AR since 2008. where are the best placed to source parts these days?

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you wanting to buy parts and assemble the lower and upper outright or just buy a complete lower and complete upper and slap them together?

If buying parts, I like mid-tier budget minded but not cheap parts.

AR15discount.com
Bkingsfirearms.com
primaryarms.com
unbrandedar.com

Don't skimp on the heart of the rifle and get a quality barrel and BCG. Most other parts are almost universal...some just have a stupid amount of markup.

What's the best source for complete uppers?

Thanks for the pics man!

Yeah, it's an Omega 36M. Settled on it partially because most of my guns have ASR muzzle devices already so it was easy without having to drop another 500 in mounts. I may bite the bullet and get a DT attachment for it. Is there any benefit you see to having a 3-lug mount? I've never used one.

That Canebrake is a sweet looking little gun. Rattler is definitely on my list!

SupermachJM said:

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I may bite the bullet and get a DT attachment for it. Is there any benefit you see to having a 3-lug mount? I've never used one.

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IF you have a gun like an MP5 or clone that has the 3 lug milled into the barrel, its an easy way to quickly attach/detach suppressors.

I don't see any reason to buy a muzzle device you thread onto a 1/2x28 barrel that has 3 lug on that muzzle device instead of just using the threads on the barrel.

I bought a used MPX a while back that I was struggling to chase down an accuracy issue with. Something about the muzzle device with 3 lug on it was throwing every 3rd shot regardless of ammo type and suppressed or unsuppressed 2" off at 25y. Took it off and my problems went away. Known quirky issue on the MPX, don't know if other guns have the same issue. But either way....I only use 3 lug if its already on the barrel.

Towns03 said:

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What's the best source for complete uppers?

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you can find complete uppers on those sites as well. BCM, Geissle, Daniel Defense, Noveske.

Primary Arms is Texas based. So there is that...