GeorgiAg said:

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In high school, I was going through the woods, hit a bump and it steered me to side swipe a tree. Tree caught my leg and ATV kept going. Nothing broke, unbelievably, but that was the last time I rode one. Nastiest bruise I ever had in my life.

... so as a middle age crisis I decided to get a OneWheel skateboard. Loved that thing. Odometer said over 3,000 miles on it. So basically coast to coast. Was great until I hit a pothole and did a Superman impression going 20 mph over pavement. Woke up int the ER. I have hardware on the bottom and outside of my eye socket with partial facial numbness that throbs all day. When I touch the left side of my lip, it feels like someone is touching my nose.

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Jaspers Ghost said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Guess I'm the outlier here.

Didn't have anything like that growing up, limited experience on them via friends that did have them. I have a Mule PRO and it is what my girls learned how to drive on in our neighborhood. Between the two of them they probably put 3,000 miles on that thing starting when my oldest was around age 12 or maybe 13 when I first let her cruise around solo.

Oldest had a near seamless transition into driving, youngest is doing her driver's ed stuff now and the actual driving part is almost second nature to her. Hell, I've had the only accident in that thing when I hit a tree stump out at the swamp lease that was hidden by grass and goat weed.

I get the concerns of folks though, having kids is scary as it is. But also look at it this way - all of the "man, growing up I did a lot of dumb things" folks seem to be the same ones that want to [understandably] protect their kids from doing dumb things. But it is those dumb things that made you who you are and taught you valuable lessons. We can't complain about younger generations being soft or lacking real world common sense, etc. if we continually shield them from those lessons either.

That being said, I was an absolute hardass on my girls about driving around the neighborhood in the Mule. We know folks all over the neighborhood and my buggy is pretty unique, or was then. We knew if stupid stuff was done. I did have to ground my oldest once because my youngest ratted her out about messing with her phone and running off the road into the ditch. I was not a happy camper about that and she knew it.

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Dude. Let your kids drive that thing whenever they want on your own land. People who are letting their kids "learn to drive" in a Mule and cruise around solo at 13 on public streets is a crappy thing to do to everyone else around you.

I've come extremly close before to t-boning some 13 year old looking kid and his three friends on their mule becuase he blew through a stop sign from a side street. Never saw him until he was in front of my truck. Does he always blow through stop signs, probably not. Maybe this was the one and only time hes ever got distracted and had an oh **** moment. But that's why kids shouldn't be driving their parents golf carts and side by sides anyways, becuase they're kids.

I dont want to have to live with the guilt of killing three kids becuase they had irresponsible parents and made a stupid kid mistake.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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AgLA06 said:

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Along the same vain in cities are all the supposed adults buying pimped out golf carts to run on city streets against F250s. No seat belts, no roll cage, no airbags, no crash protection when they hit a 2000 lb vehicle at 30mph with a wife and 3 kids under 5 years old.

All so they keep up with with the Jones' to fluff their egos and insecurities.

It's even better when they let their teens rip it around unsupervised.

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Also, Americans are obese enough already. Get a bike. With actual pedals.

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Jaspers Ghost said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Jaspers Ghost said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Guess I'm the outlier here.

Didn't have anything like that growing up, limited experience on them via friends that did have them. I have a Mule PRO and it is what my girls learned how to drive on in our neighborhood. Between the two of them they probably put 3,000 miles on that thing starting when my oldest was around age 12 or maybe 13 when I first let her cruise around solo.

Oldest had a near seamless transition into driving, youngest is doing her driver's ed stuff now and the actual driving part is almost second nature to her. Hell, I've had the only accident in that thing when I hit a tree stump out at the swamp lease that was hidden by grass and goat weed.

I get the concerns of folks though, having kids is scary as it is. But also look at it this way - all of the "man, growing up I did a lot of dumb things" folks seem to be the same ones that want to [understandably] protect their kids from doing dumb things. But it is those dumb things that made you who you are and taught you valuable lessons. We can't complain about younger generations being soft or lacking real world common sense, etc. if we continually shield them from those lessons either.

That being said, I was an absolute hardass on my girls about driving around the neighborhood in the Mule. We know folks all over the neighborhood and my buggy is pretty unique, or was then. We knew if stupid stuff was done. I did have to ground my oldest once because my youngest ratted her out about messing with her phone and running off the road into the ditch. I was not a happy camper about that and she knew it.

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Dude. Let your kids drive that thing whenever they want on your own land. People who are letting their kids "learn to drive" in a Mule and cruise around solo at 13 on public streets is a crappy thing to do to everyone else around you.

I've come extremly close before to t-boning some 13 year old looking kid and his three friends on their mule becuase he blew through a stop sign from a side street. Never saw him until he was in front of my truck. Does he always blow through stop signs, probably not. Maybe this was the one and only time hes ever got distracted and had an oh **** moment. But that's why kids shouldn't be driving their parents golf carts and side by sides anyways, becuase they're kids.

I dont want to have to live with the guilt of killing three kids becuase they had irresponsible parents and made a stupid kid mistake.

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How do things look from that high horse over there amigo?

I've had more instances of almost getting in an accident in my neighborhood last week with adults in vehicles than I have with anybody in their buggy so far, and I've been in my neighborhood going on 16 years now.

But hey, you do you I suppose.

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Your straw man has literally nothing to do with the fact you're letting your kids drive illegally on public streets, with no licenses, all the while causing an imposition to everyone around them. But anyone letting their kids do that in the first place isn't going to listen to anyone else, much less take into account how their kids actions are a pain in the ass to others and a danger to themselves.

But hey, I bet they think it's cool.

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TarponChaser said:

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And another family we're friends with via baseball (their son and our younger were teammates) had their son nearly lose his foot when he wrecked his e-dirt bike this past summer. No clue how fast he was going but it was one of those e-dirt bikes that can get up to 50-60mph. They live in a gated neighborhood with little traffic but he was going way too fast, veered off the road and struck a big, brick mailbox at his ankle- several broken bones, severed ligaments and tendons, severed nerves, and a partially degloved foot. Basically, the corner of the mailbox acted like a filet knife and skinned the front of his foot from the ankle to his toes leaving bones and all kinds of other stuff exposed. Doctors were able to save his foot but he's got a good year to 18-months of recovery and rehab.

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Jaspers Ghost said:

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See now you're just deflecting; and as a result, projecting fabrications onto me that you couldn't possibly know and that also aren't even close to reality. Simply because you didn't like hearing facts that impugn your parenting. But that's the standard MO that I would expect from someone, that when presented with criticism, immediately responds with get off your "high horse" as opposed to looking at the facts provided and also the number of people that agreed with what I'm saying.

What I did say though, was have a blast on your own private property. And notice I said nothing about GiddingsAg letting his child learn from a young age responsible four-wheeling because he is a) doing it on private property and seemingly very responsibly, and b) none of my damn business what he's doing on his property property.

So at the end of the day these are the facts:
1. You're letting your unlicensed and underage kids drive high powered non-street legal vehicles on public roadways
2. You're putting the onus on ensuring they don't get hurt on other drivers
3. And in your own words "I did have to ground my oldest once because my youngest ratted her out about messing with her phone and running off the road into the ditch."

Maybe some self reflection is in order.

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schmellba99 said:

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Jaspers Ghost said:

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See now you're just deflecting; and as a result, projecting fabrications onto me that you couldn't possibly know and that also aren't even close to reality. Simply because you didn't like hearing facts that impugn your parenting. But that's the standard MO that I would expect from someone, that when presented with criticism, immediately responds with get off your "high horse" as opposed to looking at the facts provided and also the number of people that agreed with what I'm saying.

What I did say though, was have a blast on your own private property. And notice I said nothing about GiddingsAg letting his child learn from a young age responsible four-wheeling because he is a) doing it on private property and seemingly very responsibly, and b) none of my damn business what he's doing on his property property.

So at the end of the day these are the facts:
1. You're letting your unlicensed and underage kids drive high powered non-street legal vehicles on public roadways
2. You're putting the onus on ensuring they don't get hurt on other drivers
3. And in your own words "I did have to ground my oldest once because my youngest ratted her out about messing with her phone and running off the road into the ditch."

Maybe some self reflection is in order.

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You might want to read the bolded and apply it to yourself as well. Just a thought. But I doubt you have the capability to see the irony in your comments.

You are free to criticize my parenting all you want, I mean you've already done so anyway. Doesn't change the facts that you know jack and squat about pretty much anything, but feel you have some moral authority to pontificate on how you are somehow that much better than I.

Keep on that high horse, I bet the HOA board loves it. Meanwhile, I'll keep on raising my kids the way that I do - the results have been pretty outstanding so far, even if they don't meet your lofty standards. I'm good with that though.

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