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Reading too many stories of kids dying on ATV's

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Boys and speed never go well together. Seems like we're losing someone once/week on these things. Praying for the family!

https://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/texas-dps-updates-on-fatal-archer-county-atv-accident/amp/
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I did SO much stupid **** on those things as a teenager, I'm terrified to let my boys take off on one.
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I think its that they are much faster and smoother riding than they were years ago.
Fast and Smooth is a dangerous combination for an unskilled rider as they don't realize how close they are to out of control, that it still takes time to brake for curves and there is so much less time to deal with unexpected obstacles.


I did a lot of dumb things on ATVs but they didn't have the power and suspension of today's.
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I sold my 4-wheeler the same month we moved out on our property where we could ride whenever we wanted. Bought a Kawasaki Mule instead thinking it would be safer. My oldest son rolled it 2 weeks after I bought it after multiple lectures on safety, responsibility and consequences. I'm glad the Mule had a rollbar at least.

He did the same stupid stuff I did as a kid. Apparently we all think we're invincible and it won't happen to us when we're young. I rolled my 4 wheeler multiple times as a kid. At least my kids have only rolled the Mule one time.
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Give them a small dirtbike instead.
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We used to get 3-4 of us on a Honda 3wheeler. Amazed no one ever got injured or worse.
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the most shocking thing about growing up in the 80s/90s in the rural area we lived is that we all survived that era on 3/4wheelers.

My brother drove one through a barbed wire fence once which was not great. Had our friend who was sitting behind him not reached forward and caught the top strand with his hand it probably would have ended tragically He still has a scar where the barb punctured the side of his throat in a couple of spots. Just one of many close calls we had.
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2 12 year olds and not wearing their seatbelts. Behaving stupid, and paid with their lives, how sad.

And where are the adults, these kids needed supervision instead of a free pass to drive a powerful vehicle capable of 30+ MPH on a bumpy pasture.
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I have lost 2 friends in the last 6 months to ATV roll over's. Neither doing anything overly stupid just a little too much speed and some bad luck - and no seatbelt.
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3 wheelers and 4 wheelers have consequences, but the larger, heavier UTVs are so heavy. Had family friends lose their young daughter last year. We are fairly risk tolerant, but they are off limits for my kids if an adult is not driving. It's the perception that they are safer for kids to drive than a car, that I believe leads to trouble.
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i never wore a helmet

we were out in the country w/ hills that we would jump

electric golf cart (didnt go fast), go carts, 4wheelers, dirt bike

no idea how my brother/i never seriously injured ourselves



i know i would not let my kids drive like we did
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still recall that feeling the first time you're hauling ass on a 3 wheeler and go to turn the wheel to avoid something and the bike keeps going straight. not good.
TX AG 88
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I lost an older cousin to an ATV accident. He was an Aggie grad, husband and father.
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Wife's aunt is permanently brain damaged from rolling one 35 years ago.

Lady at our church growing up has been in a wheelchair for 20 years now from rolling one.


Not new, not just kids, not just boys.
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I hate ATV's, and I think kids without a driver's license shouldn't drive them. I got a crappy used one from my parents as a kid one year for Christmas. I think I was 13-14. I was just driving it around our circle driveway one day when I took a turn too fast and wrecked it into the side of my Dad's truck. It could have been bad, but I managed to not get injured. I think that was the last time I ever rode that thing. I was scared of it. My Dad was surprisingly cool about his truck being damaged.
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Ditto to what everyone is saying

We had a 4 wheeler growing up we drove on the 40 acres behind our neighborhood lot (also trespassing). Never got hurt.

Did have one friend get pretty badly messed up in a go cart accident in elementary school. He ended up making a full recovery though minus scaring.

Not a fan of golf carts/ ATVs in the neighborhoods at all. But the really crazy ones now are the electric bikes.

Kids are flying on those things and driving on major roads with the cars.
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We have 8 grandchildren, and the younger ones like me to take them riding on the side by side, not all at the same time of course. Three of the children are somewhat recent additions to the family, my son married their mom and now they are ours, lol. First time for riding on it, I told her I go extremely slow and do not go anywhere near any water. She was not used to the whole side by side deal and I am sure a little bit nervous about it all. But I only creep along. I cannot imagine letting a preteen or teen drive the thing because I know how reckless I would have been at that age. There is a pipeline easement near our property and a gully that crosses it. Quite deep, not sure if the pipeline is exposed or not. The easement gets mowed once or twice a year. Some kid flying down that easement when the grass is even knee high would not see the gully until they were all but in it and would be killed or seriously hurt.
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Older now, but would have probably been dumber when I was younger.

Worst one I have had was a couple of years ago when I was spraying. Pad operator did not maintain the pad area and there was a huge washout. Low speed run into the rut and it sent me flying. Thankfully I had a windshield on the polaris, otherwise I would be flying through the air. Damn it still hurts... they fixed the rut the next week.
Serious Lee
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some kids never grow up either. just had a 38 year old in our community get arrested for intoxicated manslaughter. driving around past midnight with 3 other people in his can am. 30 something year old girl killed after he rolled it.
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I didn't have one growing up, but grandparents split time between a place in Jacksonville and where they grew up in Leon County off a dirt road.

3-wheelers all the time up and down that county road. Seems like all too often when visiting I'd hear conversation about so-and-so's kid that wrecked/rolled a 3-wheeler and was injured or killed. Those things were extremely dangerous.

"They" sure as heck couldn't sell them now and in truth they never should have been sold back in the day either, certainly not with the turning radius they had.
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This is why we keep our 2012 Mule around. The kids drive that.
AgsMnn
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Also, 4 wheelers were a lot lighter and smaller 20+ years ago. If they rolled on you, they were a lot easier to pick up and move. Now they are huge and heavy.

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With 12 year olds kids, this kind of thing gives me nightmares. I can control what they do when we're around - but it's damn near impossible to do when they're off with friends if the friends parents aren't as careful. And they're going to be off with friends without us more and more...

Hell...we almost got flipped ourselves on a mule late at night at a buddy's property. Buddy and his son and me and mine...buddy was driving too fast on a very wet/muddy road and almost lost control (alcohol involved). The adults didn't set a good example. Just gotta beat it into their heads how dangerous they can be and to at least where seatbelts.
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Living in Colorado I see a lot of ATV rollovers (I am part time EMS), but we are seeing a lot more e-bike/e-scooter accidents with kids. Not so much deaths, but I worked a case last month 12 year old girl e-bike straight into the side of a truck. She now is paralyzed neck down.
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Furlock Bones said:

Give them a small dirtbike instead.

As crazy as it sounds, dirt bikes (just not those tiny ones) might be one of the better options because of how much noise they make. You're also way less likely to have a passenger than on an ATV or side by side. They ended up outlawing motorized scooters and e-bikes for kids where I live because there's been so many accidents. Kids are flying on those things, you can't hear them, and the kids also have a tendency to look at their phones while they're operating them. Everyone can hear a dirt bike coming, plus since they're loud and you have to use both hands, there's no using a phone during their operation. Parents are getting tickets out here and possible impoundment of the scooter/e-bike if there's multiple infractions. Now if a kid wants to get around in our neighborhood they either walk or ride a regular bicycle.
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Guess I'm the outlier here.

Didn't have anything like that growing up, limited experience on them via friends that did have them. I have a Mule PRO and it is what my girls learned how to drive on in our neighborhood. Between the two of them they probably put 3,000 miles on that thing starting when my oldest was around age 12 or maybe 13 when I first let her cruise around solo.

Oldest had a near seamless transition into driving, youngest is doing her driver's ed stuff now and the actual driving part is almost second nature to her. Hell, I've had the only accident in that thing when I hit a tree stump out at the swamp lease that was hidden by grass and goat weed.

I get the concerns of folks though, having kids is scary as it is. But also look at it this way - all of the "man, growing up I did a lot of dumb things" folks seem to be the same ones that want to [understandably] protect their kids from doing dumb things. But it is those dumb things that made you who you are and taught you valuable lessons. We can't complain about younger generations being soft or lacking real world common sense, etc. if we continually shield them from those lessons either.

That being said, I was an absolute hardass on my girls about driving around the neighborhood in the Mule. We know folks all over the neighborhood and my buggy is pretty unique, or was then. We knew if stupid stuff was done. I did have to ground my oldest once because my youngest ratted her out about messing with her phone and running off the road into the ditch. I was not a happy camper about that and she knew it.
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Ever had anything motorized when I was a kid. Very rarely a bike, if someone was throwing theirs away or something like that.

Used Mules, Polaris, and other UTV's as part of some of my jobs. Never went fast (duh, company vehicle) - no issues.

Got a dirt bike several years back - quickly realized that I was way too old to own a dirt bike (didn't grow upon them). Traded it for a shotgun.

If I ever have anything in the future, would be a side-by-side. Nothing that goes super fast.

Had several students who severely injured themselves on those things.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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But you forget how much fun you had with any motorized toy

Grew up with a moped
a motorcycle at A&M
a 4 wheeler and a side by side now


My son started on a kawasaki 110.

Yes life is full of dangers but man you can have fun with one. You just have to teach to be careful.
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Furlock Bones said:

Give them a small dirtbike instead.

You know, I think they can be safer for a kid, but I'll offer up this as an 'old' ...

After 45 years in storage, my Honda CT-70 (AKA Trail 70) was retrieved from my deceased mother's home.

After devoting a week or so to replacing parts, changing the oil, etc., I had it running well and was ready to relive some of my childhood on the undeveloped property I own, which has some loose gravel, loose dirt, depressions in the ground and the like.

Later, my wife asked me how I liked it, and I told her I'd have to be crazy to take it out of first gear around this place, otherwise I might spill or just bounce off.

Funny, 13-year-old me didn't mind having it in top gear and driving down country roads at 50 mph.

But, I'll say this -- even driving around in first gear is a blast. I love it.
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Ribeye-Rare said:

Furlock Bones said:

Give them a small dirtbike instead.

You know, I think they can be safer for a kid, but I'll offer up this as an 'old' ...

After 45 years in storage, my Honda CT-70 (AKA Trail 70) was retrieved from my deceased mother's home.

After devoting a week or so to replacing parts, changing the oil, etc., I had it running well and was ready to relive some of my childhood on the undeveloped property I own, which has some loose gravel, loose dirt, depressions in the ground and the like.

Later, my wife asked me how I liked it, and I told her I'd have to be crazy to take it out of first gear around this place, otherwise I might spill or just bounce off.

Funny, 13-year-old me didn't mind having it in top gear and driving down country roads at 50 mph.

But, I'll say this -- even driving around in first gear is a blast. I love it.

everything has its dangers. i just think a lighter dirtbike is less likely to land on top of a kid and kill him. some bruises and possible broken bones, yep.
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Santa brought me a Honda fourtrax 300 for Christmas in the 3rd grade. Layed it over on its side Christmas morning. Who on earth thought it was a good idea to let an 8 year old ride a 300cc four wheeler?! But I learned to respect it.

By high school I had a Honda 400EX. Did a bunch of stupid stuff but never got hurt or was that crazy. I learned boundaries and kept them. I did have an incident in college with a girl on the back with me. She was too drunk to hold on well and caused me to lose control. I didn't want her falling off. instead of a nasty crash/rollover, I went into a brush thicket and shielded her from it. She was mad her head hit my shoulder. Don't think she saw the 6-8 places I was bleeding. Dumb rich girls. Anyway I decided to keep it slow with inexperienced or drunk people with me after that. I also had Hondas that were light enough to push off of yourself in the event of a rollover.

We went to mud nationals in Jacksonville in college. Lots of big fun but we didn't get wild, we watched the idiots and kept our distance.

I was not the norm though. I lost a high school buddy to a 4wheeler crash. Another high school friend clipped him and he wrapped a telephone pole. Several mutual friends injured, including a brain injury.

Now side by sides are a whole other thing. We've got a can am defender HD 10. It will run 70 mph. It's heavy. It can bounce you out of the seat quicker than you'd think. Its size and stability creates a lot of false security. My kids won't drive anything unsupervised but a golf cart until they're 16. Or a 4wheeler if we get a smaller one.
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It's not going to save your bacon in every case, but a full face helmet would go a long way towards mitigating some of these injuries. I am surprised by how many folks ride without any helmet at all.
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I haven't gotten on a 4 wheeler since I was in med school and helped cut a guys lower leg off with some trauma shears. It was barely hanging on by a little flap of skin. He had rolled his atv. That became a core memory.
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Neighborhood I live in, have one those dad's who buys their kids everything. Not hating on him or anything, just a very bold strategy to allow your kids who are under the age of 13, to tear through the neighborhood on a gas operated golf cart. Kids act like it's GTA, multiple of us in the neighborhood have said something to the dad, his response is typical. Yet, he has raised all kinds of hell on us, in the neighborhood who drive pass 25 mph. Even installed speed bumps, which the county quickly took away and charged him with damage to the road. There are a few of us, who won't be sad if one of those kids end up dying because their father wont take responsibility.

I just pray they are not hit by a car, because the golf cart is not street legal and the kids driving are not legal, yet this dad has the money and means to make peoples life a financial hell.

My demon woke me up this morning and said bruh, I'm tired... So I handed him a Red Bull and said come on little buddy, we got bridges to burn and chaos to spread.
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Local Rangely guy died in a roll over accident back in 2017-18 if I remember correctly.
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