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Fdsa
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Fascinating article about FIFA putting grass in domes here in the US. They are essentially putting down plastic over turf and then layers of sand, soil and sod. I believe we will get to grass in all the domes once the technology gets a little better.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/49030490/fifa-world-cup-grass-nfl-stadiums-debate-field-surface
SanAntoneAg
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AG
At the conclusion of the USA v. Paraguay match the other night, did you see when both teams ran to their respective sidelines for CapriSuns and orange slices?
HSEAG13
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Just Google the new bernabeau, it legitimately retracts and grows the grass underground below the stadium.
Fenrir
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People like Jerry Jones will fight it. He likes turf. He argues that the safety aspect of real grass is ambiguous but I suspect that turf makes it easier for him to have large events like concerts without worrying about screwing up the field surface. Considering how stubborn he has been about the giant glass wall facing West, I can't imagine he gives up the fight about turf easily either.
Fdsa
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I agree. The Miami grass farm was interesting to me. A football field is only 1.3 acres. Have a 40 acre grass farm nearby and you always have multiple fields ready to go. Plan all of your events to allow for replacement time if necessary. It's not like these teams don't have the money. Grass just looks so much better.
malenurse
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A typical NFL stadium is not going to have 40 acres available nearby for a grass farm.

Some of y'all don't remember the fiasco with NRG and their "replaceable" grass field
The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But, it's still on the list.
BQ_90
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AG
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Hard Rock Stadium constantly changes its grass by pre-growing fields at its team-owned South Florida Sod Farm. The grass field is changed as often as every month, depending on the conditions. The favorable Florida climate makes this feasible.

and where is Buffalo gonna have grass field to replace every month from Dec - February

Also i've seen a bunch of slipping and footing issues in the world cups games played on these indoor grass fields
Fdsa
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interesting you bring up Buffalo. Their new stadium will have a grass surface.

John Sorochan, the NFL Players Association's field consultant, is bullish on the prospects for the Bills. He said the Bills will use Kentucky bluegrass, the type that the Packers, Broncos and Steelers use, currently being grown at a sod farm in New Jersey.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/bell/2026/01/08/buffalo-bills-new-highmark-stadium-grass-field/87687121007/#:~:text=The%20Buffalo%20Bills'%20new%20stadium,by%20co%2Downer%20Kim%20Pegula.

They truck the sod around in refrigerated trucks. I'm fascinated with the lengths they are going to make this work in FIFA and moving forward in the NFL.
Fdsa
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malenurse said:

A typical NFL stadium is not going to have 40 acres available nearby for a grass farm.

Some of y'all don't remember the fiasco with NRG and their "replaceable" grass field

True...for FIFA, they shipped the grass in from Colorado.

I agree the previous tray system was a mess with all the little squares being put together. You would have to get away from that. I believe for a place like NRG, you would have to limit activities other than football during the football season, and then rip it out for the rodeo, etc. They are also using massive LED rigs to be able to keep the roof shut at NRG. Wild.
agnerd
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Just Google the new bernabeau, it legitimately retracts and grows the grass underground below the stadium.



I guess if you want to spend $1.5 BILLION on a stadium RENNOVATION, grass is the way to go...
But I can think of much better uses for my tax dollars.
Fdsa
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yeah, I think the answer will be a shift to natural grass as cities move to newer stadiums over the next 10-30 years. The solution will be different depending on the climate. It looks like Allegiant got it right in Vegas with the tray system. Arizona's had some complaints and I'm not sure how they are different. You could add a massive greenhouse outside a dome if needed for harsher winter climates.
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