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It was good enough for Grandpa, so it's good enough for me

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agfan2013
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My Grandfather on my Dad's side served under Patton in the 4th Armored Division, like many of the greatest generation he didn't talk a lot about his time in the service, but we did get a few stories out of him before he passed away when I was in middle school. He fought in Bastogne among many other battles.

As a Technical Sergeant and driver in an armored infantry battalion he was typically the one in the squad assigned a sub-machine gun. Which was the Thompson, and also the M3 grease gun later in the war. As such, I've always wanted one, not because they're practical, but just because…

So after years of wanting to get one, I finally walk in Champion Firearms back in early May with my mind made up. Auto Ordinance still makes these, but most have a long 16" barrel to comply with NFA rules, they look ugly in my opinion. I wanted one classified as an SBR and the model that looks exactly as soldiers carried it in the war. So a real specific version of the Thompson.

As I'm describing it to the guy behind the counter, figuring he will take my info down and have to order it through a vendor or something, he says "hold on a sec" and walks to the back. Lo and behold, they had one just sitting there, another guy had ordered one through them and decided later he didn't want it. So I said sign me up! And funnily enough, when I picked it up about 6 days later since tax stamps clear a lot faster now, they told me a different guy had seen me buying it and had them put another one on order for him too!

Took it out to shoot last weekend and had a blast. Is it practical for any useful purposes? Definitely not. But is it fun/awesome as heck, a great time target shooting, and a possession that reminds me of family history? Absolutely.

My Grandfather holding one (maybe during training?)


While he had to return the gun as it was US army property, he did keep the field manual.


Shooting the modern version. The keen eyed will notice the 1911 next to it with custom grips from tx4guns.


If you really have some free time, here's other threads I've started about his exploits: the battle of hill 318, and one about a rare German sniper rifle he sent back home.

https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/3432981
https://texags.com/forums/49/topics/3266179
JohnnyShotgun
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Very nice. My dad served in Patton's 3rd Army, he was artillery. Thank you for sharing.
BenderRodriguez
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Neat gun and great connection to family history, OP.

agfan2013 said:

Took it out to shoot last weekend and had a blast. Is it practical for any useful purposes? Definitely not. But is it fun/awesome as heck, a great time target shooting, and a possession that reminds me of family history? Absolutely.



I mean, pistol caliber carbines are very popular in competition.

Come shoot a steel challenge match with that thing sometime! Would love to see it in action.
cledus6150
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They make FRT's for them!!!

https://www.kinetic-crossfire.com/
agsalaska
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JohnnyShotgun said:

Very nice. My dad served in Patton's 3rd Army, he was artillery. Thank you for sharing.

So was mine.
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Gunny456
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Cool about your grandfather,
Lots of folks don't understand that the 4th Armored Division was one of about 35-40 Divisions, consisting of Infantry, Armored, and Airborne Divisions (About 500,000 troops!) assigned to Patton's 3rd Army. The 4th Armored Division was actually commanded by Major General John S. Wood when they landed on Utah Beach in July 1944 after D-Day on June 6, 1944.
Later, under the command then of Major General Hugh Gaffey, the 4th Armored Division made the historic push to relieve the besieged and surrounded 101st Airborne during the famed Battle of the Bulge, (Even though the 101st Airborne wont admit to that ! ).
The 4th Armored Division, under the command of Major General Wood and then Gaffey, was famous for its speed and tenacity advancing and covering more ground than any other Divison in the European Theater.
Hats off and a toast to your grandfather and the 4th Armored Division!
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agsalaska said:

JohnnyShotgun said:

Very nice. My dad served in Patton's 3rd Army, he was artillery. Thank you for sharing.

So was mine.

My Dad also. He drove a Sherman
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And there was Sgt. Saunders, with his Thompson. He could make the 45acp effective at "incredible" distances....


agfan2013--- when I see a good deal on 45acp ammo, I'll let you know!
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Cool story. Thanks for sharing!
O.G.
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I see you. Slinging those Freedom Seeds


I found a Grease Gun magazine on my Uncles Ranch in south Brown County. It was part of Camp Bowie during the war. That was two divorces ago & I can't remember what happened to it. I THINK I gave it back to my Uncle, but I can't remember.

On July 4th, do a mag dump for all of us.

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My dad with his BAR on Tinian. I have always wanted to shoot a BAR but just have not gotten around to it. Very cool your purchase of the Thompson!!
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cledus6150 said:

They make FRT's for them!!!

https://www.kinetic-crossfire.com/

Man, those are surprisingly cheap compared to other platforms. Kinda makes me want to go get a Thompson just because now.....
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I'll let you know next time I'm in town. I will expect to see you field dress it blindfolded on your desk. You know, like your grandpa did it.

Blue Parachute for you.
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one safe place said:



My dad with his BAR on Tinian. I have always wanted to shoot a BAR but just have not gotten around to it. Very cool your purchase of the Thompson!!

Would love a BAR.

The Movie, The Highway Men, is worth watching just for the BAR parts.
cledus6150
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Was just in champion and a old man was as picking his up while I was perusing.
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