Big Bend Lodge remodel in Chisos Basin cancelled

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I haven't seen this mentioned on the site before, just passing along....

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A long-planned overhaul of one of Big Bend National Park's most iconic visitor hubs has been called off just weeks before construction was set to begin.

The multi-million-dollar project to tear down and rebuild the Chisos Mountains Lodge in the park's Chisos Basin has been canceled, according to a note posted on the project's webpage, which states that the "construction project has been cancelled."

A separate update posted Wednesday by the National Park Service offers more detail, saying the project "will not proceed as planned" as officials grapple with delays and rising costs.

The work was scheduled to begin in May. In its update, the agency pointed to a combination of design challenges, implementation delays and rising construction costs that pushed the project beyond what current funding can support.

"Since the project's approval and budget allocation in 2019, unforeseen challenges, including design complexities and implementation delays, have significantly extended the timeline," the statement reads, adding that construction costs "have risen sharply," creating a budget shortfall that prevents moving forward with both the lodge rebuild and long-planned water system upgrades.

With that gap, the agency is shifting its focus to the Chisos Basin's aging water infrastructure, which will move ahead on its own.

https://www.chron.com/life/wildlife/article/big-bend-lodge-project-cancelled-22185319.php
MouthBQ98
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Why do they ALWAYS have to get ridiculous with it? Pick key parameters, hire a competent design and construction business. Give them a results and deadline with early bonuses and late penalties, and set them to it. This isn't hard if you don't keep studying everything endlessly, making changes, adding new requirements, etc.


I'd agree water is more important and they can also redo buildings in stages instead of all at once.
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Architect over-design is most often the driving force when budgets are exceeded. That project has almost every identifiable risk factor against it, from a contractor's perspective. Should have been a design-build delivery.

Taxpayers funded a really impressive design and set of plans that will never get built.

We're looking at a new hospital in a remote area of west Texas that is a D-B delivery. Budget is $34M and the selected team designs to that amount as a not-to-exceed.
MyNameIsJeff
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ConstructionAg01 said:

Architect over-design is most often the driving force when budgets are exceeded. That project has almost every identifiable risk factor against it, from a contractor's perspective. Should have been a design-build delivery.

Taxpayers funded a really impressive design and set of plans that will never get built.

We're looking at a new hospital in a remote area of west Texas that is a D-B delivery. Budget is $34M and the selected team designs to that amount as a not-to-exceed.

With as many trips as we make to the supply house every day, I can only imagine what it would be like building in a place that remote lol
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MouthBQ98 said:

Why do they ALWAYS have to get ridiculous with it? Pick key parameters, hire a competent design and construction business. Give them a results and deadline with early bonuses and late penalties, and set them to it. This isn't hard if you don't keep studying everything endlessly, making changes, adding new requirements, etc.


I'd agree water is more important and they can also redo buildings in stages instead of all at once.


Penalties are illegal...you can call them incentives and liquidated damages, but the damages have to estimate actual damages.
Buck Compton
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Potato-potahto. You can still put them in a contract.
austinag1997
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Incentives. Yes. LDs.... maybe.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Why do they ALWAYS have to get ridiculous with it? Pick key parameters, hire a competent design and construction business. Give them a results and deadline with early bonuses and late penalties, and set them to it. This isn't hard if you don't keep studying everything endlessly, making changes, adding new requirements, etc.


I'd agree water is more important and they can also redo buildings in stages instead of all at once.

Because there's too many people with emails ending in .gov (or some variant thereof) that invent "work" to justify their existence/paychecks.

I wouldn't be surprised if the water issue gets screwed up, too.
TxAG-010
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The project needs to happen. Chisos facilities are in a bad way....but it is a highly difficult project to execute.

They approved funds and a budget in 2019, this should not be a shock to anyone that the day covid happened the budget was worthless. If all things were the same from 2019 the project would be on it's way to built, but still have significant delays on the construction side which in turn add up to an over budget project. If you have never built anything in that part of the state it is a battle from day 1.

No local workforce, no place for said workforce to stay, the nearest "major" market for materials is 4 hours away (Midland/Odessa). Design/bid/build sounds great....the design/bid part are easy, the build part not so much.
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TxAG-010 said:

No local workforce, no place for said workforce to stay, the nearest "major" market for materials is 4 hours away (Midland/Odessa). Design/bid/build sounds great....the design/bid part are easy, the build part not so much.

I can't imagine how much time I would spend on return trips to Home Depot if I lived out there.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

TxAG-010 said:

No local workforce, no place for said workforce to stay, the nearest "major" market for materials is 4 hours away (Midland/Odessa). Design/bid/build sounds great....the design/bid part are easy, the build part not so much.

I can't imagine how much time I would spend on return trips to Home Depot would take if I lived out there.


Mini helicopter would be a good investment.
AllTheFishes
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This isn't new, the Supervisor for Big Bend retired in protest early last year because she was told this project wouldn't be going forward. She was brought in from the Corps of Engineers specifically to manage this project along with the entire Chisos basin redevelopment. Back when the current administration took over they told NPS to stop all development and their budget was getting slashed.

Caveat to say, none of this was reported publicly and came to me through contacts in the Big Bend community.
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