Also known as Mexican White Oak.
Anyone planted some in last few years can give pro/cons. Knowns- 3-4 feet growth a year and oak diseases resistant.

Drought resistant. The single digit freezes killed a lot of them.

Just planted one north of DFW. Loving it thus far

Big tree planting year for us.

2x Bur Oaks
1x Mexican Sycamore
1x Monterrey Oak
10x eagleston Hollys
12x Crape Myrtles

Planted some 10 years ago at the House on the ranch in the Hill Country. The have done well and the best white oak to plant.

Bur oaks are the largest and are native to north Texas. Great white oaks

Chin-k-apin oaks also a good choice.

I planted 2 Monterrey oaks, 1 red oak and 5 live oaks about 6 years ago in central Texas. The Monterrey oaks are absolutely thriving and growing much better than all the others. Red oak is doing well too. The live oaks are not doing as well, the freezes snapped a lot of their branches but they're still holding on.

Big fan of the Monterrey's

We plant hundreds every year in central Texas, they are great.

Love mine. Sad it needs a few friends since drought is wiping out our bigger cedar elms. Got one at HEB in 19 that barely fit in a 16 ft cattle trailer. It's doing great.

milkman00 said:

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Love mine. Sad it needs a few friends since drought is wiping out our bigger cedar elms. Got one at HEB in 19 that barely fit in a 16 ft cattle trailer. It's doing great.

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HEB sells trees…?

Yes, it's wild. The HEB by me had a piece of paper by the register in the plant and nursery area with a monthly goal of $140k in revenue. Nuts

My wife and I have a small tree farm, it amazes me what people will pay for trees at HEB

Some deals can be made when they mark them down to move the inventory out. I bought a 15 gallon Mexican Olive last year for $40 and it's doing great. Ask for a discount and they will work with you.

HEB in Lytle has amazing trees and price. Houston area does not carry much in tree dept.

Planted a 30-gal a three years ago, that hot summer killed the main trunk but a couple of suckers came up before I was going to change it out for something else. Decided to see what will happen and it is thriving.

Drought tolerant-will not tolerate saturated soils. Have planted few hundred acres of them in field grown tree farms in Katy and west Houston over the past 30 years. For the most part they have done well. Also used them on projects in Houston and West U.

Planted a 5 gallon, way west of Wichita Falls, right before the "big freeze", a few years back. Planted a similar-sized Live Oak, at the same time. The Monterrey Oak is still doing fine and growing. The Live Oak died (due to the freeze), and I had to replace with another Live Oak.

If I had to do over, I'd probably have replaced the Live Oak with another Monterrey.

Nice!

I just paid about $1,200 for a 95g Monterey oak to be planted.

Let's hope it doesn't die lol

Is that cost of tree only? Or installed and guaranteed?

Planted 22 in Nov 2019 to line our drive in Bandera. I'll add pics this week.

All doing great. In Bandera. Freezeageddon a couple of years ago got two of them. The base of those trees loomed like it blew the bark off about the first 8 inches. I guess the capillaries froze and they could not get nutrients?

Highly recommend. Grow fairly fast, drought resistant

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Is that cost of tree only? Or installed and guaranteed?

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Installed, guaranteed

Anybody planted west of Sonora without watering after first planting?

I wouldn't plant anything anywhere in Texas without watering to establish and have hopes of it living.

Where is your tree farm? Happy to look at what you have this fall.

In all the places I went that year looking for a 30 gallon tree, I was shocked HEB had the tree that suited me best for the best price and was 5 miles from home. Have wandered thru their stock since and wasn't near as impressed.

Between Smithville and La Grange in the Plum area. We try to sell wholesale in large quantities but would make exceptions to good ags.

Hope no one took my comment as criticism of HEB trees. They're supplied by the same groups that supply Home Depot, Lowe's, Tractor Supply, etc. all semi good quality trees.

I will say… the HEB in Bastrop has had the same 45 gal Monterrey Oak for sale for around a year now. I go check it out each Sunday when we grocery shop. I highly doubt it's getting fertilized/watered appropriately sitting outside infront of HEB.

Best quality and service will be from local retail farms or nurseries. We are a wholesale farm.

Thanks.

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I wouldn't plant anything anywhere in Texas without watering to establish and have hopes of it living.

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I mean I get that but let's say no droughts for first 5 years and at least average rain, Im wondering if they could get established without me needing to run irrigation to them.

I'd of course still find a way to water them because they'd become my babies and I'd care too much if they survived the first couple years but I just cant guarantee it'll be routine watering.

I did see that besides Mexico the only other natural spot they are is on the devil's river... makes me think I can make it work if I just hold them over during the common west texas droughts

TAMUallen said:

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Apache said:

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I wouldn't plant anything anywhere in Texas without watering to establish and have hopes of it living.

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I mean I get that but let's say no droughts for first 5 years and at least average rain, Im wondering if they could get established without me needing to run irrigation to them.

I'd of course still find a way to water them because they'd become my babies and I'd care too much if they survived the first couple years but I just cant guarantee it'll be routine watering.

I did see that besides Mexico the only other natural spot they are is on the devil's river... makes me think I can make it work if I just hold them over during the common west texas droughts

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A tree growing from a sapling and "being found" in areas of drought is like finding the lone survivor of hunger games.

Yes, it can survive but others have not. Also, growing from a sapling means it grew as it could, developing a taproot over time.

Planting a container grown tree or one cut from the ground, is like throwing a heroine addict into a nunnery.

Those trees get watered every day on the farm, they're babied. Once you drop them in the ground… life changes quick. Those little baby roots need water and water frequently to get established.

I'm sure there are plenty of stories of people planting and letting it ride. That's the exception, not the rule.

planted a couple several weeks ago that I had sprouted and have about 4-5 more that I will plant this fall. I planted one about 2-3 years ago that is quickly catching up in size to my live oaks that were planted 10-12 years ago.

That's a really good price-relative to what they're costing now in Houston area-from bid prices I've seen.

Yeah. I buy from a family owned tree farm/nursery up our way. Huge selection and great prices.

I planted two 95g bur oaks for $1,400 each. Great specimens. Fantastic canopy and they're already growing really well.

Their crapes are $150 planted.

Juxtapose to the Mexican sycamore I planted. It was a 95g equivalent. Probably a bit bigger. Paid $3,200 for that sucker - moon valley nursery. Bigger retail shop.

I get my trees from Blanket Creek Tree Farms. I pick mine up but I think they will deliver up to 100 miles from their location. They have great prices

45 gallon one to nine trees: $295 each
45 gallon ten to nineteen trees: $275 each
45 gallon twenty or more trees: $255 each

**45 gallon Bigtooth Maple, regardless of quantity, sell for $450 each and 95 gallons sell for $925 each.

In addition, we grow 95 gallon and 200 gallon container grown trees which sell for $545 and $1,200 each and are generally 4+ inches or 6 inches in caliper and over 15 foot in height.

https://www.blanketcreektreefarm.com

BurnetAggie99 said:

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I get my trees from Blanket Creek Tree Farms. I pick mine up but I think they will deliver up to 100 miles from their location. They have great prices

45 gallon one to nine trees: $295 each
45 gallon ten to nineteen trees: $275 each
45 gallon twenty or more trees: $255 each

**45 gallon Bigtooth Maple, regardless of quantity, sell for $450 each and 95 gallons sell for $925 each.

In addition, we grow 95 gallon and 200 gallon container grown trees which sell for $545 and $1,200 each and are generally 4+ inches or 6 inches in caliper and over 15 foot in height.

https://www.blanketcreektreefarm.com

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Thems is good prices.

Been buying from them for a good while. Great people and they have a great place.

BurnetAggie99 said:

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Been buying from them for a good while. Great people and they have a great place.

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That is where I bought my 22. Shan Jones retired so I don't know who is running it.
They had/have great products and don't buy cheap hybrids

Planted two last fall, one big one (I forget how many gallons - but about 12 ft -14 ft tall 4-6" caliper) and one 30 gallon.

I got them from moon valley nursery, they did a decent job planting, but the bigger one had some girdling roots I had to call them out to take care of. Time will tell how well it does.

I planted the 30 gallon myself, and pretty aggressively root pruned any of the roots that were trying to loop or had hit the container edge and were growing the wrong way. It definitely stressed it, but being a younger tree it has bounced back nicely this spring with plenty of water.

I'm curious to see which one does better in the long run.

MrWonderful said:

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Planted two last fall, one big one (I forget how many gallons - but about 12 ft -14 ft tall 4-6" caliper) and one 30 gallon.

I got them from moon valley nursery, they did a decent job planting, but the bigger one had some girdling roots I had to call them out to take care of. Time will tell how well it does.

I planted the 30 gallon myself, and pretty aggressively root pruned any of the roots that were trying to loop or had hit the container edge and were growing the wrong way. It definitely stressed it, but being a younger tree it has bounced back nicely this spring with plenty of water.

I'm curious to see which one does better in the long run.

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Was it the "Large" or "Giant"?

"Giant" bur oaks from moon valley were like $3,500

The Mexican sycamore i got is huge though. Like 20' tall