Outdoors
Sponsored by

Too young for Empire of the Summer Moon?

6,607 Views | 57 Replies | Last: 10 mo ago by CajunAggie
Drundel
How long do you want to ignore this user?
dcbowers said:

How old should he be to read Indian Depredations In Texas?

https://g.co/kgs/R33sn1V
I was gonna mention this one, keep it far away.
WC87
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Fantastic book, not appropriate for a 10 year old.
87Flyfisher
How long do you want to ignore this user?
This is the memoir that McCarthy based Blood Meridian on. It made me more uneasy that characters like Judge Holden and a lot of the violence were true.
BlueSmoke
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Maybe prep him by telling him the main points about Comancheria, the wars between the tribes, and how dangerous Texas was back in the day
Nobody cares. Work Harder
Burdizzo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
frorge said:

Cynthia Ann Parker was abducted at 8 years old and witness to much mutilation and rape by the time she was 10. It's time we stop babying our children. I say let him read!


And she ended up psychologically scarred for life.
Matsui
How long do you want to ignore this user?
good read very insightful
HTownAg98
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It's on a lot of AP Lang reading lists, for 16-17 year old college-bound kids. It's way beyond what a 10 year old should be reading.
ghollow
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Interwoven: A Pioneer Chronicle is a good read about life in the 1800's.


There is a sequel to it as well called Lambshead Before Interwoven



Both are factual accounts about ranch life in early Texas



So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
wessimo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Empire is definitely a bit much for a 10 y.o.

Quanah was quite the character. Sad that his Star House (described towards the end of the book) is being left to rot into the ground.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KbPXgxTaE3ACP8Sz9
Capt_Crunch 14
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'll have to give it a read!
CajunAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I am hoping for a 2025 release of the movie.


___________________

"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir, and I never slice!"
CajunAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'm planning to visit The Star House in April when I visit my daughter at OU.


___________________

"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir, and I never slice!"
CanyonAg77
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Burdizzo said:

frorge said:

Cynthia Ann Parker was abducted at 8 years old and witness to much mutilation and rape by the time she was 10. It's time we stop babying our children. I say let him read!
And she ended up psychologically scarred for life.
Stockholm Syndrome
CanyonAg77
How long do you want to ignore this user?
CajunAggie said:

I'm planning to visit The Star House in April when I visit my daughter at OU.
Can you visit it? Last I saw it was privately owned and about to fall apart
CajunAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I am researching this now....


___________________

"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir, and I never slice!"
milner79
How long do you want to ignore this user?
dead zip 01 said:

Empire Of the Summer Moon is a great book about Comanches but also one of the most recent, it is only about 15 years old.

There are lots of other books out there on the subject that aren't as graphic.

One has already been referenced in Nine Years Among the Indians

Another great book for a boy your sons age that has a heavy dose of Comanche subject matter is Goodbye to a River by John Graves.

Have him check out this link that maps out Indian conflicts. You can toggle it to a modern map and see what has happened in the areas you know which makes it exciting for kids.

https://library.uta.edu/borderland/home


Second to Goodbye to a River. Great bok that any Texan should read. The earlier he reads it the more often he will have the opportunity to reread throughout his lifetime.
Burdizzo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
CanyonAg77 said:

Burdizzo said:

frorge said:

Cynthia Ann Parker was abducted at 8 years old and witness to much mutilation and rape by the time she was 10. It's time we stop babying our children. I say let him read!
And she ended up psychologically scarred for life.
Stockholm Syndrome



I can't say I hold that against her. By the time she was recovered she had spent almost 3/4 of her life with the Comanches, mothered three children, and probably didn't remember much of her childhood.
CajunAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I am about 4/5 through Goodbye to a River. It's very good, but you gotta really pay attention...stream of consciousness writing. But yeah -- so many connections with the things we Outdoors board folks hold dear.


___________________

"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir, and I never slice!"
milner79
How long do you want to ignore this user?
CajunAggie said:

I am about 4/5 through Goodbye to a River. It's very good, but you gotta really pay attention...stream of consciousness writing. But yeah -- so many connections with the things we Outdoors board folks hold dear.

Great observation: Graves' writing demands your attention, but never is it something I would describe as a difficult or challenging read. Put differently, it is worth working through.

I am attaching an excerpt from A.C. Greene's 50 Best Books on Texas, in which the late writer and educator offers his brief critique of Goodbye to a River. Perhaps it will either entice someone to read the work or convince them it's not for them.



Central Committee
How long do you want to ignore this user?
One of my favorite books.
We may not always get what we want. We may not always get what we need. Just so we don't get what we deserve.
Lonestar_Ag09
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'll say this I was listening to it on a drive and my kiddos were watching films….lo and behold my son (10) had stopped his and was listing along at some rather inopportune times but all is well. He asked some. Questions and we just answered them….but 10 was the intended target age. However I will say there is some correlations with 4th grade Texas history
NOBEVO
How long do you want to ignore this user?
If his interest is still there at age fifteen, I'd recommend Son of the Morning Star. It's a great history on Custer and the Little Bighorn. Grabs you like EOTSM.
NOBEVO
CajunAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.

I was fortunate enough to meet A.C. Greene in 1990 when I was reading his book, The Last Captive, about the life and times of Herman Lehmann. I spent about 45 minutes with him in his office, discussing the book and the fact that we are long-time friends with some of Lehmann's descendants. It was a great conversation, and he was kind enough to sign my Dad's copy of the book.
Refresh
Page 2 of 2
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.